Jean Gustave Rousseau • 1822 in France - 1889

[bobfilm]

I have Jean Gustave Rousseau born in Chateauneuf, France arriving on 23 Feb 1843.
But cant find his parents

I next find him in 1861 as 'Jean Gustave' born 1823 in France. Occupation: Artist Married to Catherine Harriet Roscislaw Gustave (23) born 1838 in Camberwell, Surrey, with son John Emile Gustave.
He had a studio in Hanover Street, Rye Lane, Peckham, between 1860 - 1861.

He next appears in 1871 as born 1819 in France.  Occupation: Artist Photographer. Still married with 3 children.
Resident at Clarendon Road, 3 Hoe Street, St Mary, Walthamstow. He had a studio at this address from 1869 – 1873.
He is also shown at that addrress as Professor of Languages (1881)
I cannot find a record of his death in 1889 in Walthamstow.

I have his wife as widow in 1891 with her children and in 1901 as Kate Rosseau shown as Mother/Widow (aged 64) born 1837 in Camberwell - both dates in Lewisham.
I cannot find her death or children (except son Emile Rosseau as ‘Rousseau’ in 1911) sfter 1901.

Any assistance welcome

[Barbara.H]

Hi Bob,

Is this not his death on Free BMDs?

West Ham, 2nd quarter 1889 vol 4a page 82
John Gustave Rousseau age 75

According to Free BMDs info page, Walthamstow was a sub-district of West Ham district. The age is out but the registrars only record what they are told, so age at death is always a bit dodgy.

   Barbara

[Tati]

Hi Bobfilm (and Barbara!)

I don't know if you have the marriage details yet ...

Camberwell Christ Church, 23 Oct 1860
John Gustave Rousseau, full age, bachelor, Artist Photographer, 28 Hanover Street Peckham, father Matthew Rousseau, Merchant
Catherine Harriet Hayman, full age, spinster, 6 Ebenezer Terrace Asylum Rd, father John Lawson Hayman decd Merchant
Witnesses Gutavus John Parry and (can't read) Georgina Hayman

[Manchester Rambler]

Some deaths for you from Free BMD:

Deaths Jun 1889
ROUSSEAU   John Gustave    (aged 75)
W. Ham 4a 82

Deaths Mar 1902  
ROUSSEAU    Catherine H    (aged 64)   
Lewisham 1d 776

Deaths Dec 1930  
ROUSSEAU    Emile J R    (aged 71)   
Croydon 2a 373
(His birth is registered as John Emile, but his marriage is also as Emile J R.)

Deaths Jun 1936  
ROUSSEAU   Paul    (aged 66)
Horsham 2b 420
(Age slightly out, but there aren't many with the same name.)

[Barbara.H]

Possible for Catherine in 1841:

King Street, St Alphage, Canterbury, Kent
HAYMAN, Elizabeth Eleanor, age 30 born in Kent
HAYMAN, Catherine Harriett, age 3 born outside Kent

HO107/486/2/30

[jorose]

The problem is that there are several places in France known as "Chateauneuf".

From Wikipedia:

   * Châteauneuf, Côte-d'Or
    * Châteauneuf, Loire
    * Châteauneuf, Saône-et-Loire
    * Châteauneuf, Savoie
    * Châteauneuf, Vendée

Also many more if you include placenames like "Châteauneuf-sur-Cher" and "Châteauneuf-de-Vernoux", etc.  (The name, translated, simply means "New Castle")

There are no national French databases for bmd's. I checked Saône-et-Loire and Vendée archives which have some indexes online for those Châteauneuf and didn't see any Rousseaus at those places (checked 1813-1822, 1823-1832 tables of births), so you can probably rule those out.

[Barbara.H]

Census for Catherine in 1851 (I'm doing the easier bit!) as HAYMAND:

HAYMAND, John L, Head, 51, Corn And Seed Merchant, b. Deal Kent
HAYMAND, Elizabeth E , Wife, 45, b. Faversham Kent
HAYMAND, Catharine H , Daughter, 13, b. Camberwell, surrey
HAYMAND, Emily G, Daughter, 8 scholar b. Faversham kent
EGGLESTONE, Robert, Brother In Law, 58, Fund holder b. Faversham
EGGLESTONE, Catherine , Sister In Law, 60, fund holder, b. Boulstead Hill, Lincolnshire
TAYLOR, Emma, Servant, age obscured by ink blot, place of birth unknown

HO107/1582/26/9

[bobfilm]

Thanks everybody - this is a great help.

[jorose]

Côte-d'Or departmental archives online also checked - no Rousseaus in that Châteauneuf
Same for Loire.
Savoie archives require a subscription.

Where did you get the info about him arriving in 23 Feb 1843 and does that indicate a port of departure or anything of the sort?