Indian born Kellys

[Terry K]

Hello,
I am trying to trace any records of my grandfather's four brothers, all born in Patna, India. Arthur Henry Kelly b. 12.November 1865, Edward Kelly b. 1866 (last known record 1901 census living in Blackwall buildings, Whitechapel, London)
Charles Frederick Kelly, 1st Feb. 1869 (last known address Vancouver, Canada) and Alfred George Kelly 21st November 1870
My grandfather was William Herbert Kelly b. Patna 28th Dec 1863 son of William Henry Kelly and Mary Elizabeth Kelly (nee Powditch)

[Manchester Rambler]

Hello Terry, and welcome to RootsChat!

You may already have this, but all four brothers are boarders at a school in Kings Lynn in 1881:

RG11/1999/62/1 - Private School, 6 Tower St, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
Joseph BRAUN - Head - 30 - Schoolmaster, Poplar, Middlesex
Elizabeth BRUN - Sister - 27 - Bermondsey, Middlesex
Arthur KELLY - Boarder - 15 - Scholar - India British Subject
Edward KELLY - Boarder - 13 - Scholar - India British Subject
Frederick KELLY - Boarder - 12 - Scholar - India British Subject
George KELLY - Boarder - 10 - Scholar - India British Subject
Thomas RENAUT - Boarder - 14 - Scholar - Thornham, Norfolk
Herbert HARRIS- Boarder - 15 - Scholar - Hackney, Middlesex
Ellen GOODE - Servant - 17 - General Servant - Kettering, Northants

Rambler

[Terry K]

Thanks a lot. Yes I did know about the 1881 census. I should have mentioned that in my enquiry. Apart from the two references already noted I have no other information on them. A photo taken during the First World War shows Frederick Kelly in uniform with a maple leaf on his collar so I guess he may have emigrated at some time.

[diddymiller]

fibis has this from the times of India:

Surname   Kelly     
 sex   son     
 Gender   m     
  Place   Patna     
 Year   1867     
 month   Oct     
 day   20     
 Exact Entry   Oct 20th at Patna the wife of H Kelly esq of a son     
 Year   1867     
 Date   29 Oct     
 Edition   daily     

cant see the others so not sure about this one?? doesn't fit with dates shown.

Diddy

[jorose]

www.automatedgenealogy.com/ does show in the 1901 census in Pipestone, Manitoba, Canada, a Fred C. Kelly with the right birthdate (although says b. England) emigrated 1884

Also http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/census-1891/001081-100.01-e.php shows an Alfred George Kelly b. India in Pipestone, Selkirk, Manitoba in 1891 (although he's listed as just 18). By 1901 he be at automatedgenealogy indexed as George H. Kelly (original image shows b. India, birthdate is correct but year off).

Can't seem to spot them in 1911 though.

[Terry K]

Hi Diddy,

This one looks interesting. There is a gap between the births of Edward (1866) and Frederick (1869). Could it be that the child did not survive infancy? The father was Henry Kelly. If the mother's name is mentioned (Mary Elizabeth) Then it looks like there were six sons of this marriage. Thanks for this. I will need to investigate further.
Terry K.

[diddymiller]

no mother mentioned but i will have another look on fibis see if any deaths.

http://search.fibis.org/frontis/bin/index.php

Diddy

[diddymiller]

also this entry later in Nov:

  Surname   Kelly     
 sex   son     
 Gender   m     
  Place   Patna     
 Year   1867     
 month   Oct     
 day   20     
 Exact Entry   Oct 20th at Patna the wife of H Kelly Esq of a son     
 Year   1867     
 Date   14 Nov     
 Edition   overland     

wonder if just birth again in different edition of paper or whether death - but does,'t say death.

Diddy

[Terry K]

Hi Diddy,

I think your assumption about the same birth but a different edition is more likely. If there was a death then it should be recirded at Christ Church, Patna where all the baptisms took place. The ecclesiastical registers might throw up some info.

Thanks for the trouble you are taking.

Terry. K.