Edward Smith captain of Titanic

[kevkj]

Hi i recently researched my family tree and have got back to the 1851 cencus where Richard Smith 58 is married to Mary Smith 48.
They have sons and daughters including my great great grandad Henry.

Richard was born in Ranton around 1793 and his wife Mary born in Chebsey.

I read a piece that the Captain of the Titanics grandfather Edward (1775-1838 was married in Ranton to a Elizabeth Tams.

With Ranton just being a small hamlet then maybe the Titanics captains grandfather Edward was a brother of Richard or some relation.

It seems E.J's gr-grandfather was an Edward Smith born about 1744, who married a Jane Blakemore, born about 1748. Married 27/12/1760 in Bradley.

I suppose im looking for children of Edward Smith the captains Gr grandfather born 1744 or brothers of the captains grandfather as my descendant Richard was born in Ranton around 1793 and his wife Mary born in Chebsey. Chebsey,Ranton and Bradley are all within a few miles of each other.
The captains grandfather was married in Ranton and my last descendant Richard born Ranton in 1793.

Its looking likely Richards Father was the Captains grandfathers brother,
 possibly
HELP lol.

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[kevkj]

I have found the following
Mary Anne
Birth 1806 [1]
Gender Female
Person ID I8380 Enchanted Family Tree
Last Modified 8 May 2010

Father Edward SMITH, b. 16 Apr 1775, Stafford, Staffordshire, England , d. 23 May 1838, Stoke Upon Trent, Staffordshire, England
Mother Elizabeth TOMS, b. 1778, Staffordshire, England , d. 12 Jun 1841, Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Family ID F335 Group Sheet

Family U. JOHNSON
Children 1. William JOHNSON, b. 1835

Last Modified 8 May 2010


On the census 1851 of whjich i have a copy shows my descendant Richard Smith my great,great great grandfather is married to a Mary aged 45.
This ties up with the captains grandfather who has a daughter Mary born 1806,

This would mean a Smith would be marrying a Smith possibly.

This would make my great great great grandmother Mary .The captains auntie.

So basically can anyone tell me if the captain had a auntie Mary, daughter of the captains grandad who married a Richard Smith.

[Zen rabbit]

It is possible though I haven't checked up.

There is a piece on the captain of the titanic here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Smith_%28sea_captain%29
A potter like myself :-)

[kevkj]

Hi i have worked my family tree back to a Richard Smith born Ranton 1793 and married a Mary Dunn from Chebsey in Eccleshall in 1828.

They had eight children James,Easter,Henry,Richard,John.Mary,William and Thomas.

The family lived in Mill Meece throughout the mid 1880s before Henry (1843) my great,great grandfather moved to Maer and married Ann Elizabeth Smith (1852) and had a daughter Mary (1873).
After this Henrys family stayed in the Maer ,baldwins gate area of Staffs,

The interesting thing is the Richard (1793) was born in Ranton as was the Captian of the Titinic Edward smiths grandfather at the same time.

Ranton was a hamlet so i would assume they were related.

Unfortunately im stuck as i dont have the marriage certificate of richard at this stage to see if any witnesses to the marriage tie in with the capatin of the Titanics predesessors.

[Zen rabbit]

Sounds quite possible that there is a connection. Worth chasing up.
I am currently chasing up my own Smith ancestors in the Potteries. Which is difficult as there are many unconnected families with the same name.

[kevkj]

Been to the register offices today and found out Richards Father was John and his wife Esther christened Richard in Ranton 1793. Richard had two brothers John and Joseph also christened Ranton.
Another generation back achieved,cant see records of birth or marriages for John and esther in Ranton.
Could be from a nearby village or stafford likely.

Also found out whilst Edwards grandfather was from Bradeley it was still classed as parish of Ranton during that period and his marriage to Elizabeth Tams..

[Zen rabbit]

Nearest on Family Search is John Smith & Esther Moss Eccleshall, 19 July 1779. Possibly a bit too early.

[Zen rabbit]

other avenues to pursue:
Wills. Lichfield records have records of wills for Staffordshire and these have proved very helpful to me in the past.
If you think John Smith may be from Stafford then it is worth checking the Freeman records there (all published in a book by Jack Kemp)
Likewise the apprentice records at Stafford may reveal father son relationships

[kevkj]

Zen

Thankyou so much thats the couple, the archives man expected them to be from a local village.

Their first child John was born in 1783 so that ties up perfectly.

How did you find that you little star you.Did you see the marriage cert for any parents.