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« on: Tuesday 15 November 11 18:35 GMT (UK) »
So I have been working on my family history for about a year now.  I have found out a lot of things, things that even my Grandmother did not know which is great!  I have always known very little about her father though (all the information I found was on her moms family).  Over the last few months I have found out why, no one knows very much.  So I have been mining for information, this is all I know:

  • John William Taylor, March 14 1900 England to August 14 1982 Canada
  • He was a Barnardo's Home Child (N39120) admited on August 26 1907
  • April 22 1909 sent over to Canada on the SS Corsican
  • He lied about his age to get in the military during WW1, but was never sent over seas, I have found some records that may be him
  • 1922 he married Alice Cade, divorced by 1940, one child in 1926
  • Father: John Taylor, Birth unknown, Death January 3rd 1906 at Whipps Cross Hospital in London
  • Fathers Mother: Elen Taylor, no dates known, only a name in passing on a note
  • Mother: Caroline Cook March 21 1882 England to September 25 1952 England

I know a little bit more about Caroline Cooks family but  am more looking for John Taylors Father and more information beyond.

I have contacted Barnardo's directly, working on getting the records there but as his admitance is after his fathers death I doubt I will find much on his father, it will probaby be more on Caroline Cook.

Thanks in advance!

--Erik

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« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 15 November 11 19:15 GMT (UK) »
Is this the family?

1901
Brereton Rd Tottenham Middlesex
John Taylor Head M 27 coachman b. Dartford Kent
Caroline wife 19 b. Tottenham Middlesex
John W son 1 b. Tottenham Middlesex
RG13 1246 73 25

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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 15 November 11 19:26 GMT (UK) »
I don't have the 1901 England Census, but that does appear to be them, Tottenham rings a strong bell.  I knew that Caroline was young, especially compared to John, so I would say it is a safe bet that is them.

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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 15 November 11 19:37 GMT (UK) »
then could this be John??

1881
South St 1 Elm Cottage Dartford Kent
Ann Wilson Head Widow 66
Josiah Son U 38 Gas Labourer unemployed
Charles son U 36 Labourer Gas Company
Thomas son U 34 Labourer sick
Emma daughter U 20 Rag cutter at paper mill
JOHN TAYLOR grandson 6 scholar
all b Dartford Kent
RG11 866 20 33


1861
25 St Ronans Dartford Kent
Ann Wilson Head widow 44 work on Farm
William son U 21 lab in oil mills
Josiah son U 18 Lab in oil mills
Martha daughter 16 worker in paper mill
Charles son 14 Lab oil Mills
Thomas son 12
Emma daughter 10
James son 8
Robert son 6
ELLEN daughter 4

all b Dartford Kent
RG9 467 12 17

could Ellen have married Mr Taylor -and be the mother of John William ???

I think Ellen's father was William

I'll do a little more digging

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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 15 November 11 19:44 GMT (UK) »
ummm, Interesting.

It very well could be John.  Ages match, place of Birth match, it is a tough call because we are not seeing mom in 1881 or the father at all.  I would say it is, but with more than a few grains of salt.

Thanks, with this info I can probably start digging some more too.

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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 15 November 11 20:12 GMT (UK) »
Can't find Ellen Wilson in 1871 or as a Taylor after that.

Will look around more after I've eaten

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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 16 November 11 06:05 GMT (UK) »
Have you ordered a copy of John and Caroline's marriage registration? There is a Caroline Cook whose marriage was registered in the second quarter of 1899 in Edmonton (vol 3a, page 724). The marriage registration will give you the name of John's father and his occupation which would make it easier to find him on earlier census.

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Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz

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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 16 November 11 18:42 GMT (UK) »
I have not actually.  We do know his name was John Taylor as well.

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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 16 November 11 21:37 GMT (UK) »
I have not actually.  We do know his name was John Taylor as well.

So three generations with the name John. I want to confirm that since you didn't mention the information in your first post but did say the father's mother's name was Ellen.

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Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz