Fox Family

[j t smith]

Hi there

Looking for information on Martha Elizabeth Fox born 1873 Escrick Yorkshire she was my granmother and I know very little about her any information welcome.

Regards   Smudge.

[Ecneps]

Hi Smudge,

Welcome to Rootschat!

Can you give any other information at all?  Name of your grandfather, any siblings? Where she was living later?  Children's names?  You perhaps know a little more than her name and year of birth.

Her birth is registered 1873 December Quarter York 9d 52, if you could get her birth certificate it would be a big help, to find her parents' names, father's occupation etc.

Barbara

Barbara

[Valda]

The Fox family is in Escrick in 1871 and then disappears from the English censuses until 1901.

1871 RG10 4754 folio 31
Cottage in the Park Escrick Yorkshire
James Fox 31 Stratton Dorset Head Widower  ?arrer
Flora M Fox 6  Stratton Dorset Daughter
John J Fox 3  Escrick Yorkshire Son
Eglah Fox 2  Escrick Yorkshire Daughter
Timna Fooks 24  Tineham Dorset Housekeeper

James was an ag lab with his parents and siblings in Piddletown Dorset on the 1861 census

Marriages Jun 1864   
Fooks  Leonora Sophia    Wareham  5a 523   
Fox  James     Wareham  5a 523

Births Mar 1865   
Fox  Flora Mary    Wareham  5a 325

Births Jun 1867   
Fox  John James     Wareham  5a 306
Births Jun 1867   
Fox  Leonora Sophia     Wareham  5a 306

Births Sep 1868   
FOX  Eglah    York  9d 52

Deaths Sep 1868   
Fox  Leonora Sophia  1  York  9d 41

Deaths Dec 1870 
Fox  Leonora Sophia  26  York  9d 37

Martha Elizabeth then reappears marrying Alfred Smith in Birmingham in 1898. On the 1901 census they are living in Northfield then still in Worcestershire but now very much a suburb of Birmingham. RG13 2809 folio 116.

Also in Northfield in 1901 is

RG13 2809 folio 143
26 Stonehouse Lane California Northfield Birmingham
Eglah Fox 33 Escrick Yorkshire head Single Knitter in wools

Searching further for Eglah finds her in Scotland with her younger half sister Martha Elizabeth

1881 census 283 enumeration district 3 page 3
Dunnichen Angus Scotland
James Fox 40 born England  Head Married Gamekeeper
Alice Fox 39  born England Wife Married
John Fox 13 born England
Eglan Fox 12 born England
Martha Elizabeth Fox 6 born England

1881 census  288 Enumeration district 21 page 30
92 North Street Forfar  Angus
Flora Mary Fox  17 born England  General Servant 

John is in Angus on the 1901 census (I can't access the actual census image only the index for 1901)

12 Parker Street Dundee Angus
John James Fox 38  born England Plumber
Elizabeth Fox 31  born Kirriemuir, Forfarshire
Jane Fox 12  born Dundee, Forfarshire Jute worker half time scholar
Leonora Fox 10 born England
John James Fox 8 born England
Helena Fox 6  born Dundee, Forfarshire
Barbara Fox 4 born Dundee, Forfarshire 
Elizabeth Fox 4 mos born Dundee, Forfarshire

Births Dec 1890 
Fox  Leonora Sophia     Burnley  8e 182

possibles

Births Sep 1892   
Fox  John James     Birmingham  6d 181   
Births Dec 1892   
Fox  John James     Aston  6d 443   

Any members of the family are  more difficult to spot on the 1891 census.

Regards

Valda

[Valda]

Not particularly well indexed but the census image is clear.

1891 census RG12 2373 folio 120
4 Rotton Park Terrace Birmingham
John James Fox 23 Tallington Dorset Head married plumber gas fitter and zinc worker
Elizabeth Fox 20  Kerrymuir Scotland Wife Married
Jane D Fox 2  Dundee Scotland Daughter
Leonora S Fox 6mths Burnley Lancashire Daughter

Regards

Valda

[j t smith]

Hi  Friends

Many thanks to you all for the speedy response and help traking down the Fox family.

Regards  John.

[Valda]

John

to know more about Martha's mother you need to know her maiden name to help find her on earlier censuses.

This is the only marriage of a James Fox to an Alice in the time range but it didn't take place in the area so I'm not totally sure it is the right couple.

Marriages Dec 1872   
Fox  James    Auckland  10a 396   
possible spouse
Raine  Alice     Auckland  10a 396

The way to know for sure is to obtain Martha's birth certificate. You can order certificates direct from the General Registry Office.

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

James is more straightforward to follow back.

1861 census RG9 1355 folio 55
Little Piddle Piddletown Dorset
John Fox 44 Stratton Dorset Head Married Ag Lab
Elizabeth Fox 40  Portesham Dorset Wife Married
James Fox 21  Stratton Dorset Son Ag lab
Ann Fox 14 Stratton Dorset Daughter Ag lab
George Fox 11  Stratton Dorset Son
William Fox 9 Stratton Dorset Son 
Kezia Fox 7  Stratton Dorset Daughter
Annie Fox 4  Piddletown Dorset Daughter
Jane Fox 2  Piddletown Dorset Daughter

1851 census HO107 1858 folio 440
Stratton Dorset
John Fox 33  West Morton Dorset Head Married Farm Labourer
Elizabeth Fox 29 Portesham Dorset Wife Married
James Fox 11  Stratton Dorset So Farm Labourer
John Fox 9  Bradford Peverell Dorset Son
Elizabeth Fox 7 Bradford Peverell Dorset Daughter
Sarah Fox 5  Bradford Peverell Dorset Daughter
Ann Fox 3  Stratton Dorset Daughter
George Fox 1 Stratton Dorset Son
Robert Day 65  Not Known Lodger Unmarried Farm Labourer

1841 census HO107 284/5 folio 5
Billey Whits? Bradford Peverell Dorset
John Fox 25 born Dorset Ag lab
Elizabeth Fox 20 born Dorset
James Fox 2  born Dorset
John Fox 1 Mo Born Dorset 

Marriages Sep 1838   
CHURCHILL  Elizabeth    Dorchester &c  8 69   
FOX  John     Dorchester &c.  8 69

Baptism Stratton
4-Aug-1839; James Critchell; s; John; Elizabeth; FOX; Stratton; Labourer

(probably more likely Churchill)

There is only about 8% of Dorset parishes covered on the IGI up to 1812 so you will probably do much better in tracking the Fox and Churchill families through the Dorset online parish clerk

http://www.dorset-opc.com/index.htm

1871 census RG10 2154 folio 72
Smiths Cross Drewsteignton Dorset
John Fox 48 West Moredon Dorset Head Married Gamekeeper
Elizabeth Fox 47 Portesham  Dorset Wife Married
Jane Fox 11  Broadmayne Dorset Daughter
Charles Fox 7  Piddletown Dorset Son
Anna Fox 14  Piddletown Dorset Niece

1881 census RG11 2419 folio 54
Hutton Somerset
John Fox 61 Morton  Dorset Head Married Gamekeeper
Ellen Fox 52 Portesham Dorset Wife Married

Deaths Mar 1890 
Fox  Elizabeth  66  Axbridge  5c 48?3

1891 census RG12 1919 folio 40
High Street Hutton Somerset
John Fox  65 Dorset W, Moreton Head  Widower Agricultural Labourer

Deaths Jun 1897
Fox  John  74  Axbridge  5c 326

This may be Elizabeth's baptism. Her marriage details would confirm who her father was

Elizabeth Churchill
Christening:  12 AUG 1821   Portisham, Dorset
Father:  John Churchill 
Mother:  Elizabeth 

and sibling

CHURCHILL, Mary Ann   
Christening Date:5 Oct 1823 Portisham, Dorset
Father:John CHURCHILL
Mother:Elizabeth

other children may have been baptised at Toller Fratrum

For James and Alice Fox and what happened to them you first need to eliminate Scotland

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

to see whether they stayed there or returned to England.

Regards

Valda

[The Certificate Man]

I know that this is an old message but I have only just come acrosss it and there doesn't seem to be a reply.

James Fox's first wife was Leonora Fooks and the marriage was in Dorset in 1865.

The family are a twig on my tree.

www.c5d.co.uk/fooksg04.htm

[sillgen]

Hi and welcome to rootschat
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Regards
Andrea

[j t smith]

Hi Certificate Man
 
I've learn't quite abit about the Fox family since this first post ( with a lot of start up help from our RootsChat friends ).  Martha Elizabeth Fox was my Grandmother I go back through the line from her.  If you get back in touch by e-mail I could give you more information of what I know, and you proberly know things I don't.
Hear from you soon    Regards  John