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Parents of James Caldicott
« on: Thursday 23 September 10 16:54 BST (UK) »
Hello,

I am trying to find the parents/family of James Caldicott born about 1841/1842 in Ledbury.  I have a possible christening date of 27 Feb 1842. 
I believe James married Mary Ann Harper 4 Dec 1864 Dudley. BMD has marriage 1864 vol 6c page 10.  Another record from LDS says Cosely, Litchfield, Staffordshire.  Mary Ann b.about 1843 Kingswinford, Staffordshire. 
I have found numerous variations of spelling for Caldicott and the one I am using comes from the marriage certificate of his daughter Esther Caldicott.  I also suspect another daughter Priscilla who was a witness to Esther's marriage.
Would a marriage certificate for James and Mary Ann list their parent's names?  Also, for Dudley, should I be looking Wrcestershire or Staffordshire?  I'm so confused!
Thank you in advance for any help with this.
 
Eng - Ntt - HUSBANDS, CALDICOTT, JAVES, WEST
Sct - Dmb - ELLIOTT, WILKINSON, MCFADYEN

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Re: Parents of James Caldicott
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 23 September 10 17:07 BST (UK) »
I have found this possible contender for James in 1851. Born Bromyard but that is quite close to Ledbury.

HO107/1980/100/4
Gately Cross

William Caldicott, 54, Ag Lab, born Pencomb herefordshire
Elizabeth, 51 Charwoman, Leominster
George, 15, Stoke Prior
James, 10, Bromyard
John Pullen, relation, 6months, Bromyard

James's marriage certificate should give his ( and Mary Ann's) father's name and occupation so it would be worth sending for it if you are sure you have the right one.

Jen
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Re: Parents of James Caldicott
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 23 September 10 17:15 BST (UK) »
Hi Husell (and genjen),

Here's the family in 1881, showing more children
http://www.rootschat.com/links/09un/
(Shout if you want 1891 and 1901 details)

I'm not having much luck spotting the family in 1871 to check what birth place James gives.

According to www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk , the 1864 marriage was at Christ Church Coseley
 "My dear, I think the English pronounce it 'appiness"  

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Re: Parents of James Caldicott
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 23 September 10 17:38 BST (UK) »
The IGI christening is an extracted record:

James Collicott, 27 Feb 1842, Ledbury
parents William and Esther

There are 7 other children christened to the same parents in the same batch, James being the youngest:
William Collicutt, 21 Feb 1829
Thomas Collicutt, 25 Jan 1839
Benjamin Collicutt, 19 Apr 1834
Esther Collicott, 13 Jun 1836
Mary Collicott, 26 Dec 1826
Eliza Collicut, 3 Oct 1831
Christopher Caldecott, 27 Dec 1823

This should be them in 1841:

1841
HO107/425/1 14 22
Ledbury, Herefordshire
Homend? Street
William Collecot, 50, Ag lab
Hester, 45
Christopher, 15
William, 12
Hester, 10
Thomas, 4
Mary, 13

All born in county
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Re: Parents of James Caldicott
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 23 September 10 17:46 BST (UK) »
1851
HO107/2033 221 14
Dudley, Staffordshire
St John's Rd
Wm Caldicutt, head, 68, Labourer
Esther, wife, 50?, Laundress
Willm, son, unm, 21, Labourer
Mary, dau, unm, 23, Dress Maker
Esther, dau, 15, at home
Thos, son, 12, Labourer
Jas, son, 10, Labourer
Mary Davis, lodger, mar, 28, Stay Maker
Francis Davis, lodger, mar, 34, Labourer
Pamela Davis, dau, 2, b. Dudley

All except little Pamela Davis born Ledbury
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Re: Parents of James Caldicott
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 23 September 10 18:49 BST (UK) »
1861
RG9/2060 5 6
Dudley, Worcestershire
High St
Ester Caldecut, head, wid, 57, b. Ledburry Herefordshire
William, son, unm, 32, Labourer, b. do.
James, son, unm, (age looks like 29 at first sight but could be 19), Labourer, b. do.
Ester, dau, unm, 24, b. do.

In 1871, Esther sr is staying with her now 'married' daughter Esther Hopley (RG10/2966 5 4), although it seems that David and Esther didn't actually marry until 1873.
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Re: Parents of James Caldicott
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 23 September 10 22:58 BST (UK) »
I can't tell you how much I appreciate your help.  Wow! it turns out James' mother and now a sister were named Esther and you also found his sister's married name as well.  I guess that's why his and Mary Ann's daughter was named Esther.  I have not been able to find James and Mary Ann in 1871 either but I get to check out his mother in 1871 thanks to your find.
Eng - Ntt - HUSBANDS, CALDICOTT, JAVES, WEST
Sct - Dmb - ELLIOTT, WILKINSON, MCFADYEN

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Re: Parents of James Caldicott
« Reply #7 on: Friday 24 September 10 09:25 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Just to say I'm sorry for possibly leading you astray with my first reply and I'm glad Tati has been able to help with your search.

Jen :)
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Re: Parents of James Caldicott
« Reply #8 on: Friday 24 September 10 11:57 BST (UK) »
Well, he looked very likely!!
 "My dear, I think the English pronounce it 'appiness"  

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