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General => The Common Room => The Lighter Side => Topic started by: 7igerby7he7ail on Monday 24 March 08 12:12 GMT (UK)
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Referring to the Claim A Record thread started by nudge 67gets me wondering how many of our ancestors we have ‘ticked off’ as we venture further back over the generations.
The potential doubles with each generation of course and that is just the direct lines
I am referring to the fact that we all have 2 parents, 4 grandparents,8 great grandparents etc, back say 12 generations to a possibility of 4096 10x great grandparents.
I have found [besides my 2 parents]
4 Grandparents
8 great grandparents
15 great great grandparents [16]
18 3x great grandparents [32]
18 4x great grandparents [64]
11 5x great grandparents [128]
10 6x great grandparents [256]
12 7x great grandparents [512]
2 8x great grandparents [1024]
I by no means a ‘completist’, but it looks like I still have the ‘potential’ of many times spent tracking down my ancestors.
Has anybody just sat back and thought, wow, we are all closer than we think?.
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Here's my breakdown of ancestors;
2 = parents
4 = g parents
8 = 1 xg parents
16 =2 x g parents
21 = 3 x g parents
17 = 4 x g parents
(my mother's side stops at this level, but father's side continues)
13 = 5 x g parents
11 = 6 x g parents
11 = 7 x g parents
11 = 8 x g parents
13 = 9 x g parents
16 = 10 x g parents
(from here confirmation of g parents is about 50% based on my research and information obtained from others)
10 = 11 x g parents
11 = 12 x g parents
10 = 13 x g parents
10 = 14 x g parents
8 = 15 x g parents
(from here all information obtained from others, and not confirmed)
7 = 16 x g parents
6 = 17 x g parents
7 = 18 x g parents
5 = 19 x g parents
6 = 20 x g parents
4 = 21 x g parents
4 = 22 x g parents
1 = 23 x g parents
My father's side continues well on past my mother's side probably due the "gentry" of the lines, compared to my mother's mostly convict lines - but I'm not complaining ;D
Les
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So Les, you have the potential of finding the other 67108863 or so of your 23x gg parents [maths not my strong point but you get the gist].
Like I said, we must all be related even if we are 25th cousins ten times removed or whatever
Not calculating all the connections via marriages, not just directly, but to cousins and siblings through the generations.
So here I am, probably related to HM Queen, the Prime Minister, the President of the US, the Pope etc.
I am just waiting for that letter coming from a solicitor, stating I am the only surviving relative of some far distant bilionaire cousin....................
Until then,I need to find the 16th 8x great grandparent
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So here I am, probably related to HM Queen, the Prime Minister, the President of the US, the Pope etc.
Funny you should mention that. Former US President Roovesvelt was descended from one of the g grandparents. I only read the family line, but didn't record it, though from memory it was around the 9 x g parents. Then the grandson of 23 x g was Pope Alexander III in 1159, but as I indicated I can't confirm that link, it was given to me.
As I tell my wife, we are all related to each other one way or the other, its just that some are just a tad closer than others.
And with your maths, I will take your word on your figure relating to 23 x gg grandparents. The mind boggles at the possible figure. I've currently about 1500 pages of hard copy notes relating to the ancestors (and their siblings) I know of in 6 Volumes. One would need an actual library to house the records if I knew them all. ::)
Les
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I knew a chap, from your part of the world, who had aristocracy on one side and a convict ancestor on the other.
I would dearly love to find a notable ancestor, famous or infamous.
I researched my cousin's husband's ancestry. He is related to Rudyard Kipling,a Prime Minister [Stanley Baldwin] and Victorian artist Edward Burne-Jones.
I have the possibility of an ancestor who was executed for being part of the Monmouth Rebelion.
Otherwise they were nearly all ag labs
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Ah, the mathematics of genealogy - a subject dear to my heart...
I've been fortunate (plus a lot of work) to find all my ancestors back to 3x grt gparents, save 2 (30 of 32). From there it declines quickly, but still have some.
What is interesting is that Gensleuth's doubling algorithm quickly results in a number that is larger than the total number of people who have ever lived on earth. Set up the formula on your calculator and watch the smoke appear ;D
So, to get back to the small numbers of humans who existed when humanity first emerged we are looking at a "diamond shape:
X you
XX parents
XXXX gparents
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. etc
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XXXX
XX first couple(s)
I had an anthropology professor once who said "Everyone is at least everyone else's sixteenth cousin..." I think this has been expanded to 40th or 50th cousin recently, but yes, we are all related.
So, who wants to loan a cousin some money?
Nick
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Hi, I know one thing trying to trace ancestors is a never ending hobby or should I say quest one branch leads to another & of you go again & people around you think your crazy writting down all these names & dates-always on a buzz when you get a good lead.
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What is interesting is that Gensleuth's doubling algorithm quickly results in a number that is larger than the total number of people who have ever lived on earth. Set up the formula on your calculator and watch the smoke appear ;D
So, to get back to the small numbers of humans who existed when humanity first emerged we are looking at a "diamond shape:
X you
XX parents
XXXX gparents
.
. etc
.
XXXX
XX first couple(s)
Yes, your maths might be correct about the doubling theory. I know my gg grand parents were first cousins, so their grandparents appear twice on their generation line. Come to think of it, a lot of my Channel Island ancestors' names seem to pop up quite often in a number of marriages, and I'm sure their would be cousins marrying cousins there too. This would also throw some doubt on the doubling theory.
As for your diamond theory, I'm not quite sure. If(?) the first couple were Adam & Eve, well, what shape would it take then.................................... ???
Les
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I've found a conection to a Pope.
Pope Leo IX (greatx? granduncle) . He was on the go 1000 years ago.
So I have the Queen, a Pope - now for a Prime Minister. ;)
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Hello cousins [however distant!
Ah yes, I have a few cousins who married [ two of them in direct line]
Hardly surprising at a time when everybody was born,married and died within the same environs. A trip to the next village was an 'adventure'
I have one, not directly linked thank goodness who married his neice [illegal?]
Most of my Staffordshire ancestors up to the middle of the 19th century never moved more than 25 miles over a period of 350 years
Like you say, we go further back and virtually everyone alive at a certain time was 'an ancestor' phew.
Anyhow any rich cousins we are in need of donations to 'charity', look no further!
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My parents are theoretically (yet to be confirmed) 23rd cousins, once removed. Their apparent common ancestor is John "Tadody" de Braose (1198-1232), Lord of Bramber and Gower. Should I claim the record for most inbred?
Currently my research is focused on my daughter's antipodean immigrant pedigree, and her chart shows the following 99 people across 9 generations:
Herself and one cousin (b. 2005-07)
2x parents, 2 uncles and 2 aunts (b.1967-75)
4x grandparents (b.1927-44)
8x gt-grandparents (b.1889-1921)
14x 2gt-grandparents (b. 1837-1895)
24x 3gt-granparents (b.1807-65)
24x 4gt-grandparents (b.1794-1843)
12x 5gt-grandparents (b. 1791-1821)
5x 6gt-grandparents (b. 1783-1792)
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In 1925 my wife’s 3rd cousin once removed married my 3rd cousin twice removed
Their ancestors had emigrated to New Zealand
Meaning of course that my wife and I were ‘related’ when we married. Their descs. are connected cousinwise to us both.
I just happened to be chasing a line that finished in New Zealand and spotted that one of them married a spouse with exactly the same forename as my wife’s ancestor.
As coincidences go, several months later their granddaughter contacted me [via GR] and enquired about the ancestors on my side.
We exchanged info, it was then I realised that she had ancestors that came from my wife’s side.
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I have found:
2 parents
4 Grandparents
8 G Grandparents
16 GG Grandparents
32 3G Grandparents
59 4G Grandparents
77 5G Grandparents
50 6G Grandparents
30 7G Grandparents
17 8G Grandparents
7 9G Grandparents
2 10G Grandparents
2 11G Grandparents
Don't know anyone famous I'm related to though!