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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cheshire => Topic started by: DS on Friday 18 April 08 14:30 BST (UK)
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Hi
There are a few historical references on the internet to Utkinton Hall and its association with the Done family and subsequently with the Crewe family until around 1700.
On the census returns from 1841 to 1901 the property seems to have been occupied by the Wade family.
Can anyone please provide me with some information about the Hall to indicate what happened between 1700 and 1841 ? If there are any pictures available (from any period) I would appreciate sight of them.
I would also be interested to hear what has happened to the Hall since 1901 if anyone knows.
DS :)
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Hi DS
Have you by any chance looked at the book by Peter de Figueiredo and Julian Treuherz? It's called "Cheshire Country Houses" and was published in 1988. It has a picture of Utkinton Hall and a brief description of its history. Utkinton Hall was still standing, and in a rather dilapidated condition, at the time of publication.
Jayson
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http://www.cheshiremagazine.com/Archives/utkinton.html
Have you seen this article? It says after the Crewe family, it passed into the hands of the Arden family, Richard Pepper Arden being one of them, whose parents are Richard Pepper Arden and Anna Dorothy Wilbraham (if its the one born 1792, not 1754 (IGI). The mother of Mary Done, who married Sir John Crewe, was Dorothy Wilbraham, so did the house pass into her family. The article does say the house was passed through the female line as this was stronger.
Theres also a picture of the hall in this article (from the book "Tarporley and Beeston Country")
Regards
Cat :)
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thepeerage.com shows the line of inheritance from George Baillie Hamilton back to Richard Pepper Arden -
George Baillie Hamilton m. Katharine Augusta Millicent Salting
Katharine's mother was Helen Katharine Warrender
Helen's mother was the Hon. Frances Henrietta Arden
Frances b.c1792 was the daughter of Richard Pepper Arden and Anne Dorothea Wilbraham-Bootle
If Frances was born c1792 though, that means her father Richard can't be the one born 1792, he must be the earlier one (with parents John Arderne and Sarah Pepper) I guess the later Richard is her brother??
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Hi
Thank you both for the information and sorry for the delay in acknowledging it (we have been away for a few days).
I had already got a copy of the Cheshire Magazine article and photograph. I also have various other items relating to the Done, Crewe and Arden families when they were in possession of the property. My real interest was to learn how the property subsequently came to be in the possession of the Wade family.
When I originally posted the topic I thought that the Wade family owned it during the census years. However, I have subsequently obtained various wills from Cheshire CC Records Office and it is now clear that the property was only leased by the Wades.
Nonetheless they still lived there for over 100 years and I would be interested to see anything else that might be available about the Hall.
I also have the photograph appended below which shows another aspect of the property taken in modern times and a few others showing the boundary walls of the "estate" with glimpses of the Hall above them.
I had seen mention of the book referred to by Jayson but at £30 per copy I thought that it was a bit expensive to buy for the limited amount of information that I wanted which might (or might not) be included in it. One of these days I will seek it out and have a look. Do you happen to know whether the picture, that is included in it, is different from those that I already have ?
If there was a picture of the Hall in its splendour before it was plundered by the Royalists, that would be worth seeing.
Many thanks again for your interest and help.
DS
Photograph extracted from http://amaxus.english-heritage.org.uk/inspired/upload/pdf/HAR_North_West_Acc.pdf
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Hi
Yes, the picture in Cheshire Country Houses is different to the one you have shown us here.
You could get the book via the inter loan library system.
Jayson
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Hi Jayson
Thank you for responding.
A copy of the book has been located in a local Reference Library :o and I am hoping to go and have a look at it in the near future.
Cheers
DS :)
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Hi Jayson
I went to the Reference Library today to view a copy of "Cheshire Country Houses" by Peter de Figueiredo and Julian Treuherz and I obtained a copy of the photograph of Utkinton Hall that is contained therein.
A smaller version of it appears below but I have indulged in a bit of “Do it Yourself” and carried out some (virtual) repair work to the walls and pillars ;D
Many thanks for bringing it to my attention.
DS
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Hi DS
Your welcome. It is a VERY good picture of the place, and in need of great attention by the looks of it. One can almost imagine it as the dilapidated abode of Miss Haversham, with Pip nervously waiting at the gates for Estella to let him in. ;D
Jayson
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thepeerage.com shows the line of inheritance from George Baillie Hamilton back to Richard Pepper Arden -
George Baillie Hamilton m. Katharine Augusta Millicent Salting
Katharine's mother was Helen Katharine Warrender
Helen's mother was the Hon. Frances Henrietta Arden
Frances b.c1792 was the daughter of Richard Pepper Arden and Anne Dorothea Wilbraham-Bootle
If Frances was born c1792 though, that means her father Richard can't be the one born 1792, he must be the earlier one (with parents John Arderne and Sarah Pepper) I guess the later Richard is her brother??
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I lived around the corner from Utkinton Hall up until last year! small world isnt it, I lived at ridge hill cottage, yes its a stunning building, what do you want to know?
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Does Utkinton Hall still exist? If so, what is it being used for now? Is it a private residence or has it been converted into flats? :)
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Good morning all, I'm Chair of Utkinton PC and have been trying to get an online edition of Cheshire Country Houses - can anyone help?
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Unclehefty,
Go to www.archive.org
Type "Cheshire Country Houses" (with "") into the box.
Click the second button, i.e. Search text contents
Hit Enter
The book you want is there, available to borrow on an hourly, renewable basis.
Regards,
Simon
PS you might have to register for an account but it is free.
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Thanks, I did the old fashioned thing last week and went to Chester Library. YOur help appreciated very much.