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Title: *Completed*Francis and Elizabeth LAVER: Victoria
Post by: Philcandy on Monday 01 September 08 15:20 BST (UK)
Can anyone help me with information about Francis Scott LAVER and his wife Elizabeth Ann LAVER (nee Candy)?

They seem to migrated from England to Victoria around 1884: as far as I can tell they had a daughter Florence in England in 1883, and a son Edward James in Victoria in 1885 (although he wasn't baptised until 1891).

I am keen to find the date of death of Francis (around 1910) and Elizabeth (around 1938). It looks as if they have died in or near Leongatha. There may be a memorial inscription on their tombstone.

Other children seem to be:

Elizabeth (abt 1880)
Florence (abt 1883)
Edward James (abt 1885)
Norman Stephen (abt 1886)
Minnie (abt 1887)
Herbert Richmond (about 1889)
Ernest Francis Scott (about 1890)

Any information about this family would be very welcome.

Many thanks

Philip Candy
Title: Re: Francis and Elizabeth LAVER: Victoria
Post by: tropicalj on Tuesday 02 September 08 00:29 BST (UK)
Hello  there
Phil  I  noted  that  the family was on  the 1881 census in England

along with daughter Elizabeth aged 9months and Elizabeth's Candy's mother

death of Elizabeth

Eliz Ann LAVER died aged 85 at Foster in 1938 reg no 18153
father Abrahm Candy mother Eliz Ann Green

will post  the childrens births for you

Jenn

Title: Re: Francis and Elizabeth LAVER: Victoria
Post by: tropicalj on Tuesday 02 September 08 00:33 BST (UK)
Francis Scott LAVER died aged 65 in 1910 at Lcoh reg no 2213
father James Laver mother Elizabeth Scott


Jenn
Title: Re: Francis and Elizabeth LAVER: Victoria
Post by: tropicalj on Tuesday 02 September 08 00:47 BST (UK)
Children born and died in Victoria

Edward James 1885 Drou reg no 9386
Died 1973 Noble reg no 17241 aged 88

Norman Stephen 1886 Drou reg no 25623
Died 1936 Caufield reg no 9083 aged 50

Minnie 1887 Richmond reg no 31523
Died 1888 Richmond reg no 3411 aged 2

Herbert Richmond 1889 Richmond reg no 15946
Died 1889 Richmond reg no 13967 aged 5 months

Ernest Francis Scott 1890 Richmond reg no 16887
Died 1955 aged 65 at Caufield reg no 7373

Jenn
Title: Re: Francis and Elizabeth LAVER: Victoria
Post by: tropicalj on Tuesday 02 September 08 00:50 BST (UK)
Other deaths for children with the parents names of Francis Scott LAVER and Elizabeth Anne Candy/Canty

Elizabeth Mary MCKENZIE died 1953 aged 73 in Caufield reg no 10846

Gertrude Alice BYRNES died in 1966 aged 83 in Cowe reg no 12318


Florence Jane BRIDGEMAN died in 1972 aged 88 in Cheltenham reg no 10422


Jenn
Title: Re: Francis and Elizabeth LAVER: Victoria
Post by: tropicalj on Tuesday 02 September 08 00:53 BST (UK)
Now  there is  this  birth

Florence Irene Laver born 1907 in Armadale reg no 7589
Father unknown mother Gerte Alice Laver

And  the following death

Florence Irene ODOWD died aged 75 in 1981 at Caufield reg no 27469
Father Francis Laver mother Elizabeth Ann

Perhaps  the grandparents brought her up as  their own  as was often the case  in  those years

Jenn
Title: Re: Francis and Elizabeth LAVER: Victoria
Post by: Philcandy on Tuesday 02 September 08 06:24 BST (UK)
Many thanks indeed. This is exactly the information I was looking for - just to tie up some loose ends in Abraham and Elizabeth Ann Candy's family.

I note that in 1881, Elizabeth Candy was transcribed Elizabeth Canory - I would have been along time looking for that if I hadn't found her with the Laver family!!

I really appreciate all this treaure trove of names and dates.

Kind regards and thanks

Philip Candy
Title: Re: Francis and Elizabeth LAVER: Victoria
Post by: Philcandy on Tuesday 02 September 08 06:27 BST (UK)
Other deaths for children with the parents names of Francis Scott LAVER and Elizabeth Anne Candy/Canty

Elizabeth Mary MCKENZIE died 1953 aged 73 in Caufield reg no 10846

Gertrude Alice BYRNES died in 1966 aged 83 in Cowe reg no 12318

Florence Jane BRIDGEMAN died in 1972 aged 88 in Cheltenham reg no 10422

Jenn

At the risk of being a bit cheeky, is there any chance of finding these three marriages, along with Florence Irene marrying someone named O'Dowd?

Kind regards

Philip
Title: Re: Francis and Elizabeth LAVER: Victoria
Post by: tropicalj on Tuesday 02 September 08 06:55 BST (UK)
No worries Phil will have ago.

Jenn
Title: Re: Francis and Elizabeth LAVER: Victoria
Post by: tropicalj on Tuesday 02 September 08 07:26 BST (UK)
Flor Jane LAVER born Surrey  married John Percival Bridgeman in 1906 reg no 6862R (Bridgman 6862)
Children
Kathleen Gertrude born 1911 at Loch reg no 21484
Maurice Hy born 1907 at Leongatha reg no 28183
Flor Merle born 1915 at Oleigh reg np 33149
Mary Vera born 1918 at Oleigh reg no 5863
John born 1920 at Mbeena reg no 15006

Norman Stephen LAVER married Margaret Stella Maud McKAY in 1913 reg no 1818
Two children up to 1920
Hard Louvain  LAVER  born 1915 Caufield reg no 10980
John Francis Lee LAVER born 1915 Malvern reg no 5230


Elizabeth Mary LAVER married Donald Kenneth McKenzie in 1918 reg no 4908
One child to 1920
John Francis born 1919 at Foster reg no 11597
Event: B

Ernest Francis Scott LAVER married Gerte Amy Mathers in 1919 reg no 5462
One chlid to 1920
Marj Elizabeth Laver born 1920 Foster reg no 22012


Gerte Alice LAVER married James Edward Byrnes in 1919 reg no 3095
One child to 1920
Jas Edward Francis Byrnes born 1920 at Mbeena reg no 14994

Florence Irene LAVER married John Francis ODOWD in 1928 reg no 1416


Jenn
Title: Re: Francis and Elizabeth LAVER: Victoria
Post by: tropicalj on Tuesday 02 September 08 07:28 BST (UK)
only marriage I could find for Edward James

Edward James LAVER married Elizabeth Johnson in 1930 reg no 1872

Jenn

Title: Re: Francis and Elizabeth LAVER: Victoria
Post by: tropicalj on Tuesday 02 September 08 07:37 BST (UK)
Had Louvian Laver
is actually Harold ;D



 LAVER Harold Louvain  died in 1972 aged 57 at Heidleberg reg no 24014

Jenn
Title: Re: Francis and Elizabeth LAVER: Victoria
Post by: Philcandy on Tuesday 02 September 08 08:01 BST (UK)
This is brilliant Jenn. Thanks so much for all this extra information.

I will put it into my database; I know know a whole lot more about this family than ever before! I can't help wondering if Rod Laver, the tennis player, might have been related to this family somehow? Mind you, it looks as if there were other Laver families in Victoria around the same time.

Kind regards and thanks again

Philip
Title: Re: Francis and Elizabeth LAVER: Victoria
Post by: tropicalj on Tuesday 02 September 08 08:55 BST (UK)
I  do  know  that Rod Laver was a Queenslander but it would be interesting to see where his origins were

Jenn

ps  Phillip  do  you  want any ELectoral Roll  information on  your mob  ?
Title: Re: Francis and Elizabeth LAVER: Victoria
Post by: Philcandy on Tuesday 02 September 08 09:17 BST (UK)
Thanks jenn

I don't want to impose any more. The information you have given me is fantastic.

The only think I'd really like now is the memorial inscription from the Leongatha cemetery. According to Family History Online, both Francis (1910) and Elizabeth (1938) are buried there, but infuriatingly is just gives a year and nothing more detailed.

Maybe someone will have the indexes either on fiche or in a printed form.

Kind regards and thanks

Philip
Title: Re: Francis and Elizabeth LAVER: Victoria
Post by: JAP on Tuesday 02 September 08 09:20 BST (UK)
A well-known Victorian LAVER family comprised the seven sons of farmer Jonas LAVER and his wife Mary Ann FRY.

They included:
William Adolphus LAVER (1866-1940), Professor of Music at the University of Melbourne

Also Alfred Edmund LAVER (1858-1927), Charles William LAVER (1863-1937), Frank Jonas LAVER (1869-1919), Ralph Herbert LAVER (1874-1962), and Arthur and Rudolph.

You can read about them in Wikipedia ...

JAP
Title: Re: Francis and Elizabeth LAVER: Victoria
Post by: cando on Tuesday 02 September 08 11:13 BST (UK)
Thanks jenn

I don't want to impose any more. The information you have given me is fantastic.

The only think I'd really like now is the memorial inscription from the Leongatha cemetery. According to Family History Online, both Francis (1910) and Elizabeth (1938) are buried there, but infuriatingly is just gives a year and nothing more detailed.

Maybe someone will have the indexes either on fiche or in a printed form.

Kind regards and thanks

Philip

Hi

Perhaps contact the Secretary of the Leongatha Cemetery Trust who should be able to give you the dates of death a dates of burial from the Trust records.
http://www.ozgenonline.com/aust_cemeteries/

Leongatha Cemetery Trust
Mr J Edney
Secretary
PO Box 343
Leongatha  Vic 3953
Ph:  03 5662 2493

Usually the above website would detail any online records.

Or you could contact
http://home.vicnet.net.au/~sggs/

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: Francis and Elizabeth LAVER: Victoria
Post by: Philcandy on Wednesday 03 September 08 08:43 BST (UK)
Many thanks for this additional information. I wonder if there is a link back in England between Jonas LAVER and Francis LAVER? That may have to wait for antoher day, though!

Thanks, too, for the link to the South Gippsland Genealogical Society. I have dropped them an email.

Best wishes and thanks

Philip Candy
Title: Re: *Completed*Francis and Elizabeth LAVER: Victoria
Post by: Marls on Wednesday 10 September 08 00:34 BST (UK)
Hi

I have a connecting family of Lavers but they are not directly related however if you contact this lady, I understand she has been researching the Rod Laver family of Central Queensland and possibly answer your question.

Betty Laver
betla(at)tpq.com.au

that is:-  betla at T for Tango P for Papa G for golf.

Good luck....

Marls
Title: Re: *Completed*Francis and Elizabeth LAVER: Victoria
Post by: Philcandy on Wednesday 10 September 08 05:51 BST (UK)
Many thanks for this tip. I have sent an email, so will wait to see if they have any additional information to flesh out my inquiry.

I tried the email addresses listed; unfortunately this failed twice: once with the 'tpg' and once with 'tpq'  If you have any other suggestions, please let me know.

Kind regards

Philip Candy

Title: Re: *Completed*Francis and Elizabeth LAVER: Victoria
Post by: Marls on Sunday 21 September 08 08:13 BST (UK)
Sorry if you cannot get connected. Perhaps you could try Sue Evans at the

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Good luck

Marlz
Title: Re: *Completed*Francis and Elizabeth LAVER: Victoria
Post by: jackie_bish on Thursday 05 May 11 09:39 BST (UK)
Hi,

My name is Jackie Bishop. I'm the great granddaughter of Florence Irene O'Dowd nee Laver.
I was wondering if you could help me in finding out who France Laver and Elizabeth Laver (nee Candy) parents were?

Thanks
Jackie
Title: Re: *Completed*Francis and Elizabeth LAVER: Victoria
Post by: tropicalj on Thursday 05 May 11 10:18 BST (UK)
Hello  there and Welcome to Rootschat


if you read through the thread you will see that I have given  the parents when I dtailed their deaths


here they are

Eliz Ann LAVER died aged 85 at Foster in1938  reg no 18153
father Abrahm Candy mother Eliz Ann Green

link to her death notice

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/12068283?searchTerm=laver&searchLimits=l-title=The+Argus+%28Melbourne%2C...%7Ctitleid%3A13|||l-category=Family+Notices%7Ccategory%3AFamily+Notices|||l-decade=193|||l-year=1938
Francis Scott LAVER died aged 65 in 1910 at Lcoh reg no 2213
father James Laver mother Elizabeth Scott


Jenn
Title: Re: *Completed*Francis and Elizabeth LAVER: Victoria
Post by: jackie_bish on Thursday 05 May 11 11:58 BST (UK)
thanks :)
Title: Re: *Completed*Francis and Elizabeth LAVER: Victoria
Post by: jackie_bish on Friday 06 May 11 10:23 BST (UK)
heya,

i was wondering if you had anything more up the family tree, so elizabeth candy's and francis lavers grandparents and so on......???

thanks for you help so far
jackie  :)
Title: Re: *Completed*Francis and Elizabeth LAVER: Victoria
Post by: Philcandy on Monday 09 May 11 09:04 BST (UK)
Hello Jackie

Francis Scott LAVER's parents were James LAVER (1816-1862) and Elizabeth nee SCOTT - (ca 1821-1904)

Elizabeth Ann CANDY's parents were Abraham CANDY (1817-1883) and Elizabeth Ann nee GREEN (1818-1897)

The families were based in West Pennard and Meare in Somerset for many years. You can find more details by looking at the free site: www.freereg.co.uk

I hope this helps with your research.

Kind regards

Philip Candy

Title: Re: *Completed*Francis and Elizabeth LAVER: Victoria
Post by: jackie_bish on Monday 09 May 11 10:24 BST (UK)
thanks so much for your help

jackie
Title: Re: *Completed*Francis and Elizabeth LAVER: Victoria
Post by: Philcandy on Monday 09 May 11 12:06 BST (UK)
I just realised that you asked for Francis and Elizabeth's grandparents. They are as follows:

James LAVER's parents were Stephen LAVER (ca 1787-1821) and Jane nee SALTER (ca1774-1824)

Elizabeth SCOTT's parents were Francis SCOTT and Ann UNKNOWN.

Abraham CANDY's parents were Christopher CANDY (1782-1842) and Mary nee HODGES (1781-1858)

Elizabeth Ann GREEN's parents were George GREEN (1789-1822) and Anna nee AMES (1796-1881)

Once again, I hope this will help with your research.

Kind regards

Philip Candy
Title: Re: *Completed*Francis and Elizabeth LAVER: Victoria
Post by: jackie_bish on Monday 09 May 11 22:39 BST (UK)
Thank you so much that is huge help and my family's going to be so happy :)
thanks for your help

jackie  :)
Title: Re: *Completed*Francis and Elizabeth LAVER: Victoria
Post by: jan carmody on Tuesday 03 December 13 23:38 GMT (UK)
Hi Phillip,
You can now access headstone photos directly from Leongatha Cemetery at
http://www.leongathacemetery.com.au
Hope this helps,
Jan.
Title: Re: *Completed*Francis and Elizabeth LAVER: Victoria
Post by: SaraLaver on Wednesday 13 August 14 11:05 BST (UK)
Hi there,
I have just been working on the Laver Family Tree and I can contect you all to Rod Laver.

Francis Laver (1845-1910) has a brother Robert Scott Laver (1853-1932) with wife Mary Phillips (1853-1919). Francis is one of 8 children to James and Elizabeth Laver.

Robert and Mary are believed to have 13 children but can only find record on one - Roy Stanley Laver (1898-?) leongatha. Roy married Melba Myrtle Ednis Roffey (1910 - 1995) Calliope.

Roy and Melba then had four children
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If you need anything more let me know :)

Sara
Trevor Laver is my partners Grandfather so that makes Rod my Grand Uncle.   

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