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Title: Thomas William Dobinson & Leopold Maurice William Dobinson
Post by: ibbotson on Tuesday 11 June 13 16:13 BST (UK)
Looking for Death/Obit notices, or any other details for the following... Thomas William Dobinson, born England 1874, Arrived Victoria BC 1918, died Vancouver BC 1945... Also his son Leopold Maurice William Dobinson, born England 1905, Arrived Victoria BC 1921, and married Ann Schwarze 14 September 1929 Nanaimo BC. I do have the passenger details for both. Any help appreciated.

Regards David
Title: Re: Thomas William Dobinson & Leopold Maurice William Dobinson
Post by: GPDAB on Friday 12 July 13 01:41 BST (UK)
hi David...I found this post quite by accident this evening.  The people you have mentioned in your request are my Grandma, my biological Grandpa and biological Great Grandpa.  I am very new to this whole genealogy thing but am very excited to possibly connect with other family members.  How are you connected to my Grandma...

looking forward to hearing back from you...

Debbie
Title: Re: Thomas William Dobinson & Leopold Maurice William Dobinson
Post by: ibbotson on Friday 12 July 13 20:00 BST (UK)
Hello Debbie

Nice to here from you. In answer to your question your Dobinson's are related to my wife's family via marriage.

Thomas William's Dobinson also had a daughter called Bertha Victoria Dobinson who married Edgar Bruce Green de Woolfson (my wife's family) about 1917 in Shanghai China. They had 3 children, Alwyn, Joyce and Norman, all born Shanghai. Edgar was harbour master in Shanghai and he and Bertha travelled a lot between China, Uk, Philippines, Canada & USA. The last sighting I have of Bertha is 1941 when she and Edgar sailed via Japan to Seattle USA. Bertha must have stay within the Seattle/Vancouver area because Edgar returned to the Philippines alone and was captured by the Japanese in 1941 and interned at the Santa Tomas Internment Camp in Manila until 1945. Sadly I do not know what happened to Bertha after 1941 (which Is why I'm trying to locate anything about Thomas & Leopold to hopefully point me in the right direction) because after Edgar's release in 1945 he returned to Vancouver and then Seattle were he re-married an Ida Zevelosky who was also in the Santo Tomas camp.

I'm not sure what you have on Thomas!! but I'm sure your aware he married Emily Mason 1898 in Tongham Surrey UK.  I do have this marriage document, and various passenger list for Thomas, Emily, Leopold and Audrey as well as Edgar & Bertha and family which I'm happy to share with you. Do you have any info on what happened to Bertha? or anything relating to the Dobinson family.

If you would like to make further contact regarding the family please drop me a line via my personal message link on the post page and we can talk direct.

Hope to talk again soon

Regards David
Title: Re: Thomas William Dobinson & Leopold Maurice William Dobinson
Post by: Jacquie in Canada on Saturday 13 July 13 01:46 BST (UK)
Debbie, you will need to make a couple more posts before you can access the personal message function. Making a couple of posts in this thread is fine. Here's a link to some info on the PM system:
http://www.rootschat.com/help/pms.php (http://www.rootschat.com/help/pms.php)

Jacquie
Title: Re: Thomas William Dobinson & Leopold Maurice William Dobinson
Post by: PCTer on Thursday 29 August 13 00:42 BST (UK)
David:

My great aunt was Hildegard (Hilda) Ann Schwarze from Nanaimo, BC., who married Leopold M W Dobinson on September 14, 1929.  They subsequently divorced.  The Schwarze family immigrated from Berlin, Germany to Nanaimo in the early 1900s.  Hilda's father and mother operated Schwarze Photographers in Nanaimo, which was started in 1912, and the business passed down to their son, Norbert, and then to his son Peter.   A copy of Hilda and Leo's marriage certificate is available from the British Columbia Archives:  Marriage Reg No:  1929-09-359078; Microfilm No.: B13758 (GSU#2074554).  I have pictures of Hilda, and may have a picture of her with Leo but not sure what Leo looks like.

Donald
Title: Re: Thomas William Dobinson & Leopold Maurice William Dobinson
Post by: ibbotson on Thursday 29 August 13 07:18 BST (UK)
Hi Donald

Many thanks for sharing the information regarding Hilda, I will look into the marriage certificate. May I ask if you are able to send me a copy of the picture you have of Hilda and also Leopold if thats is at all possible.

Regards David
Title: Re: Thomas William Dobinson & Leopold Maurice William Dobinson
Post by: ibbotson on Thursday 29 August 13 08:20 BST (UK)
Donald

May I also ask if you have any dates regarding Leopold & Hilda's divorce. Also did they have any children.

Regards David
Title: Re: Thomas William Dobinson & Leopold Maurice William Dobinson
Post by: PCTer on Thursday 29 August 13 16:26 BST (UK)
David:

It may take me a while to dig up a picture.  I will look to scanning it.  Is there a way that you can privately get me an email address for you.  Not sure when they divorced.  They did not have any children as far as I know.

Donald
Title: Re: Thomas William Dobinson & Leopold Maurice William Dobinson
Post by: ibbotson on Thursday 29 August 13 16:37 BST (UK)
Hi Donald

I have sent you a personal message with my email address.

David
Title: Re: Thomas William Dobinson & Leopold Maurice William Dobinson
Post by: sami on Thursday 29 August 13 16:43 BST (UK)
Sadly I do not know what happened to Bertha after 1941

Hi David:

Could this be Bertha's death cert in Vancouver, 1972. Father listed is Thomas William Dobinson.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0vxv/

sami
Title: Re: Thomas William Dobinson & Leopold Maurice William Dobinson
Post by: ibbotson on Thursday 29 August 13 16:57 BST (UK)
Hi Sami

WOW!!! that is a great find. Yes it is definitely her, there must have been a divorce between her and Edgar Bruce Green.

Many thanks
David
Title: Re: Thomas William Dobinson & Leopold Maurice William Dobinson
Post by: sami on Thursday 29 August 13 23:41 BST (UK)
Hi David:

Just a bit more information on Bertha (Meikle). The earliest year she is listed with William in the Vancouver City Directories is 1949. William is on his own in 1946. So their marriage will have been within that time frame.

sami
Title: Re: Thomas William Dobinson & Leopold Maurice William Dobinson
Post by: ibbotson on Friday 30 August 13 07:13 BST (UK)
Hi Sami

Once again many thanks. I was starting to search for further info on her and a marriage to William.

Regards

David
Title: Re: Thomas William Dobinson & Leopold Maurice William Dobinson
Post by: sami on Friday 30 August 13 17:08 BST (UK)
Hi David:

I'm thinking you already know about the searchable BC Archives - Genealogy website, but just in case you don't, here is the link:

http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Genealogy/basicSearch

Unfortunately the marriages aren't searchable after 1936.

sami
Title: Re: Thomas William Dobinson & Leopold Maurice William Dobinson
Post by: ibbotson on Saturday 31 August 13 12:19 BST (UK)
Hi Sami

Yes I was aware of the BC Archives, but thank you again for thinking of me.

Regards

David
Title: Re: Thomas William Dobinson & Leopold Maurice William Dobinson
Post by: nicoledxoxo on Tuesday 10 September 13 03:31 BST (UK)
David:

It may take me a while to dig up a picture.  I will look to scanning it.  Is there a way that you can privately get me an email address for you.  Not sure when they divorced.  They did not have any children as far as I know.

Donald

Hello my name is Nicole, I am the great grand-daughter of Leo William Dobinson. He did in fact have two children with Hilda who are still alive. After the divorce with Hilda he re-married Margret(Peggy) Harper and had 3 more sons  Leo Dobinson died in 1949 in a tug boat accident in the waters near Victoria (oak bay), the name of the tug boat was the George McGregor.

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Title: Re: Thomas William Dobinson & Leopold Maurice William Dobinson
Post by: ibbotson on Tuesday 10 September 13 10:25 BST (UK)
Hello Nicole

I'm very excited to here from you, I'm going to send you a personal message with my email address so if your willing we can follow up on the details you have just posted.

Kind regards

David
Title: Re: Thomas William Dobinson & Leopold Maurice William Dobinson
Post by: polarbear on Tuesday 10 September 13 14:22 BST (UK)
Hello David and Nicole.

Nicole needs to have 3 posts before she can access the PM system (RootsChat policy). Two more posts here to just say 'Hi' will do it.

Regards
Polarbear
Title: Re: Thomas William Dobinson & Leopold Maurice William Dobinson
Post by: ibbotson on Tuesday 10 September 13 19:22 BST (UK)
Hi Nicole

Please do send a couple more posts as requested to comply with the Rootschat policy so we can then make contact via the personal message system.

I have looked up the tug boat accident which I was not aware of and managed to locate a newspaper article about it with Leo's name mentioned.

Regards David
Title: Re: Thomas William Dobinson & Leopold Maurice William Dobinson
Post by: Mark Dobinson on Tuesday 13 January 15 03:29 GMT (UK)
Donald

May I also ask if you have any dates regarding Leopold & Hilda's divorce. Also did they have any children.

Regards David

Leopold is my great-grand father, from Leo's 2nd Marriage to Margaret (Peggy) Harper, my oldest  Uncle who was raised by Peggy, is Leo's son from his first Marriage. This was not spoken about until much later, after Peggy's death I believe.

My Uncle found out that he had a sister from Leo's first Marriage.

So as far as I know Leo and Hilda had a Son and a Daughter.

I, would very much like to know further back in Thomas & William's Family line, who was Thomas' parents where were they from and how far back can this line be traced.

Our Dobinson Family knows little to nothing about out family history because Leo died when my Dad was only 3 years old and never knew anything more about his Father or his history.

Any help is appreciated.
Title: Re: Thomas William Dobinson & Leopold Maurice William Dobinson
Post by: Mark Dobinson on Tuesday 13 January 15 03:43 GMT (UK)
Hello my name is Nicole, I am the great grand-daughter of Leo William Dobinson. He did in fact have two children with Hilda who are still alive. After the divorce with Hilda he re-married Margret(Peggy) Harper and had 3 more sons  Leo Dobinson died in 1949 in a tug boat accident in the waters near Victoria (oak bay), the name of the tug boat was the George McGregor.
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Hi Nicole, Leo was my grandfather, and Peggy was my Nana, making me Thomas's great-grandson, I am looking for any info going back in my family line, any info would be awesome!
Title: Re: Thomas William Dobinson & Leopold Maurice William Dobinson
Post by: Mark Dobinson on Tuesday 13 January 15 03:45 GMT (UK)
Hi Nicole

Please do send a couple more posts as requested to comply with the Rootschat policy so we can then make contact via the personal message system.

I have looked up the tug boat accident which I was not aware of and managed to locate a newspaper article about it with Leo's name mentioned.

Regards David

Hi David, just making one last post tso I can communicate privately.....it seems I have finally found some people who may know my family's history....very excited...
Title: Re: Thomas William Dobinson & Leopold Maurice William Dobinson
Post by: Mark Dobinson on Tuesday 13 January 15 04:08 GMT (UK)
Also for anyone interested, there is a "The Dobinson Clan" Facebook Group that can be found here:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/83551126280/10152894188541281/?notif_t=group_comment_reply

please feel free to join and post