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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Derbyshire => England => Derbyshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: RCB on Wednesday 27 November 13 18:38 GMT (UK)
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Is it possible to do an address search 1911 census for Parkfeild House, Glossop to see who's living there. It's a longshot but the wife of a family member lists that address as her home address in the UK in 1946 from India. Yes I know years later, she married in India and may have been born in India too, and Parkfield House sounds like it might have been grand enough to have other family connections. cheers.
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Hi.
You can do an address search on the 1911 using FindMyPast. I'm afraid though that we can't do it on RC due to copyright.
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That copyrights still going is it. I went back to do the search at FindMyPast but couldn't remember my password, so I clicked forgotten password and they sent a link which doesn't work, it includes a token number about a mile long. I tried cut and paste etc and all I got was the home page again telling me to sign in, so round and rouns in circles. Thank's anyway. I complained to FindMyPast
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Hi
Could not help but look, But, FindMyPast will not give anything for Parkfield,
Glossop Park road does not name any individual houses
sorry
Westmorland
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Not sure if it helps, but next door to Glossop is Padfield, could it be Padfield House ?
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FindMyPast is not ideal for place searches. You're far better using A...y. Most libraries seem to have it these days.
Regards
Derby Girl
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How do you do an address search on Ancestry - do you need to use the old search? I know FindMyPast gives the option of a person or address search, which I've always found useful.
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Now I have a problem as I decided to take out a sub to FindMyPast a year or so ago, but basically if you go onto the first page of the Census you want and don't fill in your details, you should be able to click and bring up the towns you need, then click on them. Sorry I can't be more helpful than that. Someone else will give you much better directions at doing it. But you can then look through the Census street by street, which is very useful.
Regards
Derby Girl
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thanks derby girl...I did that on a few census years ago, but they were rural areas so only a few pages to scan, Glossop might throw up many more. It is a good way to find people you aare almost certain are there yet they don't show in the census, I found my Beach family as Bach.
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Yes, I know what you mean - but Glossop isn't the largest place on earth, and there's always the possibility of picking up family members you didn't know existed, visiting other relatives and so on - and, as you say, really useful when the name has been wrongly transcribed. The person who writes the Lost Cousins newsletter reckons you need subs to both sites - I know what he means - though I think a lot of us would baulk at the cost - myself, I use A..y in the Library. Not so useful, but better than nothing.
Hope you find what you want.
Derby Girl
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Hi,
1891
RG12; Piece: 2783; Folio: 98; Page: 9
The Address is given as 17 North Road, Glossop + house name of "Park Field House"
Thomas Dearnaley 53
Elizabeth A Dearnaley 55
Hannah M Dearnaley 20
Betsy A Dearnaley 18
Sarah E Dearnaley 16
Joseph Dearnaley 14
Hannah Ashton 75
All Children born in Glossop.
Most of them still there in 1901, however address, is just North Road, Glossop
RG13; Piece: 3275; Folio: 10; Page: 11.
Is this the Surname you are looking for? Lots of different ways for spelling, you could try
Dearnaly.
Always remember on the 1911 Census the Householder filled in the address, so when you find the
actual Census sheet always click to the next sheet for full address.
Spendlove
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1901 census
North Road Glossop
Joseph Dearnaley, age 64, Book Keeper Paper Mill, with wife Sarah age 55, and 5 children.
Kelly's Directory of Derbyshire, 1912
PRIVATE RESIDENTS, Page 463
Dearnsley Joseph, Parkfield house. North road, Glossop
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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That's great the house exists, so now it's down to me to find out if this family link with the family 45 years later. I'm waiting for a surname from a relative. Thanks for taking the trouble to look..
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1941 Kelly's Directory of Derbyshire
GLOSSOP
PRIVATE RESIDENTS
Shepley Mrs. 17 North road
1891 census - Joseph Dearnsley age 53, address 17 North Road, Park Field House, Glossop.
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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If interested there are a number of Dearnaley buried at Glossop Cemetery including a Thomas and Elizabeth.You can access the site on line by entering Google,Glossop Cemetery Burials.
Sorted by surname,date and grave number.
Rex
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have you seen this website
http://familytree.dearnley.com/reports/g1/p1180.htm#i11795
It says:
" In 1893 Joseph Taylor Dearnaley was a Cashier in Paper Manufactory.
......died on 29 November 1919 at Parkfield, North Road, Glossop, Derbyshire, at age 80 years and 9 months"
Probate : 21 February 1920 at Derby
If that is correct then that does cover the period over the 1911 Census so it would seem reasonable that he/and/or family would be at Park Field or Parkfield then.
Milly
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Have you tried a search at the FREE 1911 Census index with all the surname variations?
Search name: Joseph Dearnaly with Residence Glossop brings up this in the FREE INDEX
www.1911census.co.uk/search/results4.aspx?x=363534668
One born 1877 and one born 1838.
If you try those exact spellings and Date of Birth and Residence you may have more luck finding it elsewhere - and you can check if that is the one at North Road.
Milly
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Burials at Glossop Cemetery:
Thomas Dearnaley 9.3.1914 aged 76 Grave Number 5305 Free Church
Eliz.Ann " 28.5.1908 aged 73 ditto
Sarah Ellen " 29.2.1952 aged 77 ditto
Hannah McDearnaley 10.10.1945 aged 74 ditto note spelling same grave
Eliz Maude Dearnaley 15.3.1875 aged 7mths Grave Number 1630 C of E
Ada Alice " 2.8.1902 aged 23 ditto
Joseph Dearnley 3.12.1919 aged 80 ditto
Sarah " 26.6.1937 aged 92 ditto
I hope this helps.
Rex
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It's great to have names, thanks for the help. Hopefully I can link the Dearnaley's to the Mrs Shepley mentioned in the Kelly's Directory in 1941. I had a question mark against a name people were unsure about Shapely? and Glossop. This is the link to the house name, I wonder if Mrs Shepley was a Dearnaly? Off to check it out. Thanks again Fred
A mis-spelling meant nothing came up, but Shepley is a different story.
The House "Parkfield" brought me here, and all I had was Alice ? born about 1912. The name Shapely? had led nowhere, I wasn't even sure if it had anything to do with the Alice returning from India in 1946 to live in Cardiff with her family, but you've helped make sense of it.
So now although there may be no direct link to the Dearnaley family (yet) in 1911 the Shapley family are there William, Alice, child Mary, and daughter Alice a few months from being born. The cotton trade might be the reason daughter Alice (almost certainly) married in India. I think it's likely her father moved to India to grow cotton for some company?
More to find but many thanks.
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Hi
Been thro marriages and cannot come up with a Dearnaly splicing witha Shepely
regards
Westmorland
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in 1911 the Shapley family are there William, Alice, child Mary, and daughter Alice a few months from being born. The cotton trade might be the reason daughter Alice (almost certainly) married in India. I think it's likely her father moved to India to grow cotton for some company?
New to the thread and I'm a little confused - where has this family been found and are they Shapley or Shepley?
Might your bride in India be the Alice Shepley of 13 Thistlebarrow Rd Bournemouth who was 25 when she boarded the SS Shropshire from Liverpool, bound for Cochin, on 18 December 1936?
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The family are at 94 Glossop Rd in 1911
Yes I'm thinking that must be her, the Bournemouth address is odd.
She returns in 1946 as Mrs Alexander giving the address Parkside House, Glossop. The youngest son is my step-daughters father, that's why my info was a bit thin.
Good news is I added details to the tree on Ancestry and now more information is appearing. I can't confirm the 25 year old Alice sailing to India is her, but it fit's the story.
So others have confirmed the John W Shepley and wife Alice M Bramwell as my Alice's parents.
if that all makes sense.
If not cotton I thought Alice's father might have been a military man in India, Alice married a major. I don't think I'll find out the link to the Bournemouth address. I think my step-daughter will have to start asking questions if she wants to know more.
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OK, so Alice's father was John William Woffenden Shepley who married Alice Moseley Bramwell in 1907.
John William Woffenden Shepley of Hillside North Road Glossop Derbyshire died (aged 42) on 23 Nov 1923 at High Elms Victoria Park Manchester. Probate Derby 8 April 1924 to Alice Moseley Shepley widow and John Henry Cuthbert secretary to a limited company. Effects £20140 8s.
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Alice Moseley Shepley of Plymouth Nursing Home Penarth Glamorgan widow died 9 July 1961. Administration London 13 Sep 1961 to Alice Alexander (wife of Peter Alexander). Effects £191 4s 2d.
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I have just seen this thread today.
If RCB is still interested in info about the Shepley family from Glossop, which is a family that I know, I shall be happy to answer any questions.
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Alice Moseley Shepley of Plymouth Nursing Home Penarth Glamorgan widow died 9 July 1961. Administration London 13 Sep 1961 to Alice Alexander (wife of Peter Alexander). Effects £191 4s 2d.
AVM: Can you please explain the basis for your date of death (9 July 1961) for Alice Moseley Shepley? Because I have a death record for her that states she died the year before, in 1960.
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Alice Moseley Shepley of Plymouth Nursing Home Penarth Glamorgan widow died 9 July 1961. Administration London 13 Sep 1961 to Alice Alexander (wife of Peter Alexander). Effects £191 4s 2d.
AVM: Can you please explain the basis for your date of death (9 July 1961) for Alice Moseley Shepley? Because I have a death record for her that states she died the year before, in 1960.
That post is a year and a half old - it was a transcription from the National Probate Calendar. If she died a year earlier, perhaps an error crept in when probate details were recorded, but that is what it says.
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It's great to have names, thanks for the help. Hopefully I can link the Dearnaley's to the Mrs Shepley mentioned in the Kelly's Directory in 1941. I had a question mark against a name people were unsure about Shapely? and Glossop. This is the link to the house name, I wonder if Mrs Shepley was a Dearnaly? Off to check it out. Thanks again Fred
A mis-spelling meant nothing came up, but Shepley is a different story.
The House "Parkfield" brought me here, and all I had was Alice ? born about 1912. The name Shapely? had led nowhere, I wasn't even sure if it had anything to do with the Alice returning from India in 1946 to live in Cardiff with her family, but you've helped make sense of it.
So now although there may be no direct link to the Dearnaley family (yet) in 1911 the Shapley family are there William, Alice, child Mary, and daughter Alice a few months from being born. The cotton trade might be the reason daughter Alice (almost certainly) married in India. I think it's likely her father moved to India to grow cotton for some company?
More to find but many thanks.
The family name is Shepley. The elder daughter, Mary, married a surgeon and lived in London. Alice was born and raised in Glossop, and lost her father in 1923 when she was 12. The India connection was her husband-to-be, Peter Alexander, who was working there for the Indian subsidiary of Lewis & Tyler, a Cardiff company manufacturing machine belts. Alice married him in India, and stayed there for the duration of the war, returning to Liverpool on 31 August 1946.