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Title: Eleanor Fitzgerald
Post by: wayne69 on Saturday 18 April 20 21:15 BST (UK)
Hello,
       Eleanor Fitzgerald, as you can see, was living at 1 Burlington Road, Southport, in 1911. Born in London in 1866, single, and living by 'private means'. I'd like to discover more about Eleanor but I'm unable to find any trace of her prior to 1911. It's possible that her name was Ellen or Helen. If she was baptised a catholic she may have been given the name Elena, which morphed into Eleanor. She may have preferred this and decided to stick with it. I can't find her in1939 but there is a death in 1961, which may be her. Any help would me much appreciated.
                 Many Thanks
Title: Re: Eleanor Fitzgerald
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 18 April 20 21:34 BST (UK)
What is her relationship to you?  Are you descended from one of her siblings as that could help trace her on earlier censuses
Title: Re: Eleanor Fitzgerald
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 18 April 20 21:39 BST (UK)
Is she mistrancribed as I can't find an entry using the info you give
Title: Re: Eleanor Fitzgerald
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 18 April 20 21:49 BST (UK)
Found it using the address search.   The 1961 death was a spinster & died 20.12.1961.  She left a will.  You will find it in 1962.  You can download it for £1.50 and may get some info

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills
Title: Re: Eleanor Fitzgerald
Post by: garstonite on Sunday 19 April 20 07:41 BST (UK)
Found it using the address search.   The 1961 death was a spinster & died 20.12.1961.  She left a will.  You will find it in 1962.  You can download it for £1.50 and may get some info

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills

only one on freebmd in 1961 and she is 91 and the death is in Ealing - I am confused - I thought she was in Southport ? and if that record is the correct one aged 91 - she was born in 1870 ? not 1866 - is this the right one ??
Title: Re: Eleanor Fitzgerald
Post by: amondg on Sunday 19 April 20 09:04 BST (UK)
Maybe
1891 Paddington, 80 Fernhead Road listed as a lodger. The family of a retired Military man Arthur St George Caff age 42 born Ireland
Eleanor Fitzgerald 26 born London living on own means
Title: Re: Eleanor Fitzgerald
Post by: heywood on Sunday 19 April 20 09:11 BST (UK)
There is this one

1871 207/60/37
St Pancras

Eleanor Fitzgerald 2 yrs b St Pancras
Parents John and Elizabeth plus siblings.
Title: Re: Eleanor Fitzgerald
Post by: MaureeninNY on Sunday 19 April 20 09:15 BST (UK)
1901-Ormskirk
John Fitzgerald  73 London
 Eleanor Fitzgerald  43 London
 Mary Harley  21
1 Burlington
Title: Re: Eleanor Fitzgerald
Post by: heywood on Sunday 19 April 20 09:22 BST (UK)
That’s a good find - right area - they are in Birkdale - Ormskirk registration district.
Title: Re: Eleanor Fitzgerald
Post by: garstonite on Sunday 19 April 20 09:28 BST (UK)
ha ha - says Formby in 1911 census and Mary Harley is still with her as her servant - says born Middlesex ,London 1866
the census says
Registration District - Ormskirk
Parish - Southport
SUB DISTRICT - Formby - so I would say she is definitely in Formby - I am gonna check Burlington Road ,Formby ,Southport
Title: Re: Eleanor Fitzgerald
Post by: heywood on Sunday 19 April 20 09:34 BST (UK)
I don’t think that this Eleanor is the one born Eleanor Isabella mmn Day who looks to be from the 1871 family in St Pancras.
She marries Frederick Blakiston in 188i and can be seen in later censuses.
Title: Re: Eleanor Fitzgerald
Post by: garstonite on Sunday 19 April 20 09:35 BST (UK)
Heywood - you are spot on
1 Burlington Road
Birkdale
it is still there  :)
it was sold in 2010 for £350,000p - probably worth about £400-450,000 now -
9 pictures of it

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/detailMatching.html?prop=12694731&sale=67700919&country=england
Title: Re: Eleanor Fitzgerald
Post by: MaureeninNY on Sunday 19 April 20 09:39 BST (UK)
I keep getting this one:
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar
Eleanor  Agnes Fitzgerald 
31 Aug 1933

Leamington Spa, Warwickshire, England

Probate date:25 Nov 1933
Edwin James DOD and Oswald Arthur DOD.
......
 The DOD children seem to be those of her sister Fanny Elizabeth (married James DOD). The family are in Ormskirk 1891.


Maureen
Title: Re: Eleanor Fitzgerald
Post by: heywood on Sunday 19 April 20 09:41 BST (UK)
Yes, she seems to be Eleanor Agnes.
Father John’s probate 1907 granted to Eleanor Agnes and James Dod, architect.
Title: Re: Eleanor Fitzgerald
Post by: heywood on Sunday 19 April 20 09:51 BST (UK)
1871 106/31/1

John Fitzgerald   41 yrs Master Tailor
Fanny Fitzgerald 48yrs embroideress
Elenor Fitzgerald 13 yrs
Fanny Fitzgerald 16 yrs Embroideress
Pheoby Pearson   22 yrs servant

Elenor must subtract a few years in 1911
Title: Re: Eleanor Fitzgerald
Post by: MaureeninNY on Sunday 19 April 20 10:00 BST (UK)
 :) :) heywood
It does seem to be the same person.

I wonder just which Ele*n* Fitzg* wayne69 is looking for?

Maureen
Title: Re: Eleanor Fitzgerald
Post by: heywood on Sunday 19 April 20 10:51 BST (UK)
My thoughts too and I saw he was online when we were posting a short while ago. I was hoping then that was going to join us  :)
Title: Re: Eleanor Fitzgerald
Post by: MaureeninNY on Sunday 19 April 20 10:58 BST (UK)
I guess I could put a pot of coffee on.....

 :)

Maureen
Title: Re: Eleanor Fitzgerald
Post by: wayne69 on Sunday 19 April 20 21:18 BST (UK)
Hello Rootschatters: Thanks to your excellent detective work, I can confirm that Eleanor Agnes Fitzgerald was born in 1858, never married, and departed this life in 1933.
                    Wayne69
Title: Re: Eleanor Fitzgerald
Post by: kanskar on Sunday 19 April 20 21:29 BST (UK)
Freebmd:  Birth Sep 1857 Qtr

Eleanor Agnes Fitzgerald
St Geo Hanover Sq 1a 213
Title: Re: Eleanor Fitzgerald
Post by: wayne69 on Monday 20 April 20 08:01 BST (UK)
Make that born 1857, went to heaven in 1933.
     Thanks kanskar.
Title: Re: Eleanor Fitzgerald
Post by: lancsann on Monday 20 April 20 16:16 BST (UK)
Please can you confirm which Eleanor you are interested in?

Eleanor Fitzgerald born 1866

or

Eleanor Agnes Fizgerald born 1857
Title: Re: Eleanor Fitzgerald
Post by: wayne69 on Tuesday 21 April 20 22:00 BST (UK)
Thanks for the input lancsann. Clearly, I've got my wires crossed somewhere. The Eleanor Fitzgerald I'm interested in was, as my initial posting read, living in 10 Burlington Road back in 1911. I need to review all of the information I have in order to clarify things.