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Title: Frank Ritchie Macduff
Post by: alanatabz on Tuesday 18 August 20 08:20 BST (UK)
Looking for info on a Frank Ritchie, Macduff

Stayed at 69 Duff St, Born 1901 to John and Christina Ritchie

Went to Ceylon 1922, returned 1938 due to Injury.  Looking for info on how/when he left and returned to UK. Worked on a tea plantation.


There is another Frank Ritchie, Macduff, Born 1897, Wounded in WW1 1918, Son of George And Margaret. May have died 1975 age 77. But frank #1 is who I am seeking info for
Title: Re: Frank Ritchie Macduff
Post by: rosie17 on Tuesday 18 August 20 08:33 BST (UK)
This looks like his UK outward journey
Francis Ritchie age 21 (tea planter
Address 69,Duff Street Macduff
Departure date 3 /8/1923 London
Destination Colombo Sri Linka
Ship Naldera

Rosie
Title: Re: Frank Ritchie Macduff
Post by: alanatabz on Tuesday 18 August 20 08:42 BST (UK)
Brilliant, Thanks Rosie
Title: Re: Frank Ritchie Macduff
Post by: alanatabz on Tuesday 18 August 20 08:48 BST (UK)
PS any info in coming back in 1938?
Title: Re: Frank Ritchie Macduff
Post by: rosie17 on Tuesday 18 August 20 08:55 BST (UK)
Still looking for his return

Rosie
Title: Re: Frank Ritchie Macduff
Post by: rosie17 on Tuesday 18 August 20 15:49 BST (UK)
Could this be him the image is not to good he is listed as Mr W Ritchie but looking at the image it looks like F W Mr Ritchie ..age 27 tea planter
Address Glenbernie House? Skene Street Aberdeen
Departs Rangoon Burma
Ports of voyage  Port Said, Colombo ,Marseillies
Port of arrival London
Date 17 May 1929
Ship Gloucestershire
Rosie
Title: Re: Frank Ritchie Macduff
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 18 August 20 17:01 BST (UK)
SP have his death in Banff in 1954 aged 53.  Frank William Ritchie

No birth reg for that name but there are 2 Francis William Ritchie births on SP both in 1901 - one in Macduff & the other Banff so you will need to check
Title: Re: Frank Ritchie Macduff
Post by: Forfarian on Tuesday 18 August 20 18:43 BST (UK)
No birth reg for that name but there are 2 Francis William Ritchie births on SP both in 1901 - one in Macduff & the other Banff so you will need to check
Likely the same birth registered twice.
Title: Re: Frank Ritchie Macduff
Post by: alanatabz on Wednesday 19 August 20 06:15 BST (UK)
Many thanks again everybody.


Title: Re: Frank Ritchie Macduff
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 19 August 20 07:26 BST (UK)
Was that incoming record the right one ?

Rosie
Title: Re: Frank Ritchie Macduff
Post by: alanatabz on Wednesday 19 August 20 07:47 BST (UK)
Hi Rosie

1922 ties in with the info I have on him going out there as a tea planter

Although it appears he may have finally come back in late 1938, so 1929 may have been a visit back home after 7 years away?
Title: Re: Frank Ritchie Macduff
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 19 August 20 09:43 BST (UK)
Don't see any other records for him searching with  just a surname was the address in Aberdeen familiar ? ..I'm assuming he remained in Macduff

Rosie
Title: Re: Frank Ritchie Macduff
Post by: alanatabz on Wednesday 19 August 20 12:00 BST (UK)
Hi Rosie

It appears the address in town is new news to his Son, although he wasn;t born until the 1950s

Regards

Alan
Title: Re: Frank Ritchie Macduff
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 19 August 20 13:34 BST (UK)
Hi Alan if you would like a copy of these records PM your e-mail address you might be able to make out the address
Rosie
Title: Re: Frank Ritchie Macduff
Post by: MonicaL on Wednesday 19 August 20 13:39 BST (UK)
Hi Alan

Guessing this is Frank here www.historyofceylontea.com/tea-planters/planters-registry/ritchie-f-w--11130696.html

Monica
Title: Re: Frank Ritchie Macduff
Post by: alanatabz on Wednesday 19 August 20 14:08 BST (UK)
Many thanks Monica!

great find!
Title: Re: Frank Ritchie Macduff
Post by: MonicaL on Wednesday 19 August 20 16:28 BST (UK)
Have to ask...is this Frank W Ritchie, Macduff in any way connected? www.amazon.co.uk/Frank-W-Ritchie-Photographer-Macduff/dp/B009DLLIIU

Monica
Title: Re: Frank Ritchie Macduff
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 19 August 20 18:06 BST (UK)
Looks interesting Monica  ;)

Rosie
Title: Re: Frank Ritchie Macduff
Post by: Millmoor on Wednesday 19 August 20 19:33 BST (UK)
From " Photographers in Northern Scotland c1850-1914"

Ritchie John Junior 
1903-1914+   69 Duff Street Macduff

This is the same address as in the opening post.

There are articles re Frank Ritchie photographer in the Press and Journal 8 April 1991 and 15 July 1991 regarding a collection of his work which had been maintained by his widow. " He operated from a family owned shop in the Banffshire fishing town". The first article says he died in 1955 - the second in the 1950's.

His death may, therefore, be this one,

Ritchie Frank William   Age at death 53  1954 Banff RD.


The newspaper archive also has the death notice of mother Christina Ritchie in 1915 ( address again given as 69 Duff Street) and a second marriage for father John in 1923 to Bessie Hutcheon  - article refers to "John Ritchie the well known Macduff photogarpher and sportsman". and also states that after the marriage he was leaving Macduff and going to live in Aberdeen.

William

Title: Re: Frank Ritchie Macduff
Post by: MonicaL on Wednesday 19 August 20 22:54 BST (UK)
That is great additional background William  :) A little more here on John Jnr (Frank's dad we are assuming here) www.foggieloan.co.uk/arts-culture/early-20th-century-photographers/

Also here www.foggieloan.co.uk/44library/postcards/photographers/history.htm

Alan, Frank's son must be aware of his father's photography background in later years after he came back to Scotland?

Monica
Title: Re: Frank Ritchie Macduff
Post by: MonicaL on Wednesday 19 August 20 23:10 BST (UK)

The newspaper archive also has the death notice of mother Christina Ritchie in 1915 ( address again given as 69 Duff Street) and a second marriage for father John in 1923 to Bessie Hutcheon  - article refers to "John Ritchie the well known Macduff photogarpher and sportsman". and also states that after the marriage he was leaving Macduff and going to live in Aberdeen.


Maybe the address that Frank gave when he came back to the UK (Glenburnie House, Skene Street Aberdeen) in 1929 connects with his father if he moved there after his second marriage?

Monica

Added: the 1929-30 Aberdeen Post Office Directory does have John Ritchie Jnr but at a different address https://archive.org/details/postofficeab192930aber/page/452/mode/2up
Title: Re: Frank Ritchie Macduff
Post by: MonicaL on Wednesday 19 August 20 23:45 BST (UK)
The 1928-9 directory is the one https://archive.org/details/postofficeab192829aber/page/456/mode/2up

John Ritchie showing with two addresses, work premises (Shooting School) and home which showed as Glenburnie House, Skeene Street. So, from the details that Rosie found earlier, Frank gave his father's address for his shipping manifest records when he came home in 1929.

Monica
Title: Re: Frank Ritchie Macduff
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 20 August 20 06:08 BST (UK)
Good find Monica with the address ..I couldn't see any other passenger records did you have any luck ?

Rosie
Title: Re: Frank Ritchie Macduff
Post by: alanatabz on Thursday 20 August 20 06:35 BST (UK)
Great Information again.

In the 1911 Census, there was John Senior, and his son John Jnr (photographer) and his wife Christina. 69 Duff Street.

John Snr was involved in shooting as in 1910 he was shot in the back at Duff House whilst inspecting a trap and taken to Hospital.

Christina dies in 1923 (age 40).   John Marries again in 1925 to Bessie Hutcheon.   They move to stay in Aberdeen, Tuesday 22 May 1928 (P&J) John Ritchie is mentioned at Glenbirnie House, Skene Street.  So when he came back from Sri Lanka (Ceylon) in 1929 he gave that address - his father's - John Jnr.

Unsure where he went after that, the Frank Ritchie at 132 Duff St appears to be an Engineer (car) and the one injured in WW1

The book, I have. more photos about boats although does show he took photos during the war through a case with a hole in it of damage, despite him being an official photographer for the Office of Information and an ARP role.

Frank died in 1954 age 55 at the Chalmers Hospital in Banff.

I have been speaking to Frank's son - also Frank, although he was young when his father died, and is looking to get info for an aunt and his sister to a lot of the gaps in the info.