RootsChat.Com

Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Perthshire => Topic started by: Sandy Run Trail on Sunday 20 December 20 19:19 GMT (UK)

Title: Death of Daniel Cameron
Post by: Sandy Run Trail on Sunday 20 December 20 19:19 GMT (UK)
Hello,

I'm attempting to find the death date of DANIEL CAMERON, born  06 May 1785, in Dunblane, Perthshire.  His parents were LACHLAN CAMERON and MARGARET BUCHANAN. He married MARGARET MCISAAC 08 Apr 1804 and they had 10 children between 1804 and 1826 (?) in Dunblane.  The above information was obtained through Scottish records.  I would appreciate any help or assistance in leading me to finding his death date.

Thank you,
Sandy Run Trail
Title: Re: Death of DANIEL CAMERON
Post by: ColC on Monday 21 December 20 11:32 GMT (UK)
It looks like this might be the last child.
CAMERON   DAVID   DANIEL CAMERON/MARGT. MCIAAC    30/08/1829   Dunblane

Dunblane deaths 1828 – 1854 are on SP but no Daniel, so below looks possible.

CAMERON   DANIEL   70   Died    1856   Dunblane.

Colin
 
Title: Re: Death of Daniel Cameron
Post by: ev on Monday 21 December 20 14:17 GMT (UK)
If you use FreeCEN this might match the information that Colin has found  :-\
1851 Census transcription-
Dunblane , Perth.
Daniel Cameron 66 labourer born Dunblane Perth
Marion Cameron 66 wife born Dunblane Perth

1841 Census transcription(all born Perth)-
Raymoyle , Dunblane , Perth
John Reoch 88
Daniel Cameron 50 ag lab
Mary Cameron 50
John Cameron 20 shoemaker
Mary Cameron 20

Would any of that information match what you have ?


ev   

Added-
Daniel Cameron , occupier , house and garden Ramoyle Dunblane.
1855 Valuation Roll.
Title: Re: Death of Daniel Cameron
Post by: Sandy Run Trail on Monday 21 December 20 22:43 GMT (UK)
Hello Colin,

DANIEL and MARGARET CAMERON had at least 2 additional children after Daniel.  HUGH CAMERON, born 2 Jun 1824 in Dunblane, and JEAN CAMERON born 13 Nov 1826 in Dunblane.

I'd appreciate the source of the 1856 death date for DANIEL.

Thank you,
Sandy Run Trail
Title: Re: Death of Daniel Cameron
Post by: Sandy Run Trail on Monday 21 December 20 22:46 GMT (UK)
Hello ev,

No, none of this information matches what I have.  I shall try FreeCEN.

Thanks,
Sandy Run Trail
Title: Re: Death of Daniel Cameron
Post by: Forfarian on Monday 21 December 20 23:06 GMT (UK)
Quote
author=Sandy Run Trail link=topic=841762.msg7082040#msg7082040 date=1608590618
I'd appreciate the source of the 1856 death date for DANIEL.
It's on Scotland's People - Daniel Cameron, age 70, died 1856 in Dunblane.

There's no mother's maiden surname in the index, but the original certificate should tell you his father's name.
Title: Re: Death of Daniel Cameron
Post by: ev on Tuesday 22 December 20 07:14 GMT (UK)
The 1841 Census I listed is probably Daniel Cameron and Mary Reoch , I suspect the 1851 Census and 1856 death is not your Daniel  :-\

There is a Margret Cameron , age 60 , at East Bow(Easter Bows in 1851) Dunblane in 1841 ?
Do any of the childrens birth/baptisms give an address ?


ev
Title: Re: Death of Daniel Cameron
Post by: ColC on Tuesday 22 December 20 09:56 GMT (UK)
Hello Colin,

DANIEL and MARGARET CAMERON had at least 2 additional children after Daniel.  HUGH CAMERON, born 2 Jun 1824 in Dunblane, and JEAN CAMERON born 13 Nov 1826 in Dunblane.

I'd appreciate the source of the 1856 death date for DANIEL.

Thank you,
Sandy Run Trail


The BMD records mentioned are on https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

I think you misread the birth record I mentioned the last child was David in 1829.

Colin
Title: Re: Death of Daniel Cameron
Post by: ColC on Tuesday 22 December 20 10:19 GMT (UK)
The 1841 Census I listed is probably Daniel Cameron and Mary Reoch , I suspect the 1851 Census and 1856 death is not your Daniel  :-\

There is a Margret Cameron , age 60 , at East Bow(Easter Bows in 1851) Dunblane in 1841 ?

ev

I would agee EV.

DANIEL CAMERON married MARY REACH
30/01/1819 Dunblane

Colin
Title: Re: Death of Daniel Cameron
Post by: ColC on Tuesday 22 December 20 11:03 GMT (UK)
For information.

Children of DANIEL CAMERON/MARGARET MCISAAC

Alexander 1804, James 1812, John 1815,
William 1819, Peter 1821, Hugh 1824, Jean 1826, David 1829.

I note a gap in birth records 1804 – 1812, I guess they may have lost at least one child?

No death records at Dunblane before 1828 and none for this family 1829 – 1855 on church records.

I guess this might be Maragaret?

MCISAAC   MARGARET   GEORGE MCISAAC/MARGARET BAIN   F   14/09/1783   Kilmadock

They married 18/01/1783 Kilmadock.

No death for Daniel or Margaret on Statutory Records after 1855 and no suitable census records.

It is possible that they died prior to 1855 in a place where the records are not available. I could only identify 3 of the children still in Dunblane after a quick scan through the 1841/1851 census on freereg.

Colin

Title: Re: Death of Daniel Cameron
Post by: Sandy Run Trail on Tuesday 22 December 20 19:23 GMT (UK)
To ColC -

Margaret Cameron  was born in 1811 and married James Gentles.

Yes, Daniel's wife was Margaret McIsaac and her parents George and Margaret Bain McIsaac.

Thank you,
Sandy Run Trail
Title: Re: Death of Daniel Cameron
Post by: Sandy Run Trail on Tuesday 22 December 20 19:25 GMT (UK)
To ev,

The only location listed is Dunblane, Perth.

Thanks,
Sandy Run Trail
Title: Re: Death of Daniel Cameron
Post by: ColC on Wednesday 23 December 20 11:40 GMT (UK)
To ColC -

Margaret Cameron  was born in 1811 and married James Gentles.


Plus Margaret Cameron was born in 1811 and married James Gentle marriage on SP 1830

Tree on Ancestry Death:   1885 Bridgeton, Cumberland, New Jersey, USA
   
No birth on SP but I suspect it was as below, also noted on Ancestry.

CAMERON   MARGARET   DONALD CAMERON   17/12/1809   Dunblane


Colin
Title: Re: Death of Daniel Cameron
Post by: Sandy Run Trail on Wednesday 23 December 20 15:17 GMT (UK)
ColC

You've been busy.  Didn't know about her immigration to US.  Shall check Ancestry.

Thank you and Merry Christmas, as we Yanks say...

Sandy Run Trail
Title: Re: Death of Daniel Cameron
Post by: ColC on Wednesday 23 December 20 15:37 GMT (UK)
Thanks for your post. You may be aware of the following but just in case.

Do not be concerned about Margaret's fathers name.

 Daniel & Donald are sometimes, but not always, interchangeable in Scotland, because Domhnall, the Gaelic version of Donald, may be Anglicised as Daniel.

It looks like James Cameron(1812–1869) also went to the USA
Death 17 April 1869 • Humboldt, Richardson County, Nebraska, United States of America

Some of the trees on Ancestry do not all have the correct information.

Alexander married and was in Dunblane 1851
John married and lived in Falkirk, Stirlingshire 1851
Hugh remained single and lived in Perthshire.
David was a mason in Dunblane 1851 but not clear afterwards.
No clear trace of the others.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Colin
Title: Re: Death of Daniel Cameron
Post by: Sandy Run Trail on Saturday 26 December 20 19:20 GMT (UK)
Yes, I have found errors on several family trees, both  Ancestry and FamilySearch.  Discouraging.  Did not know the interchangeability of Donald/Daniel.  Speaking of which, is Colin interchangeable with John and Callender with Alexander?
Title: Re: Death of Daniel Cameron
Post by: Sandy Run Trail on Saturday 26 December 20 19:26 GMT (UK)
Colin and EV,
Daniel and Mary Reoch/Reach are not mine.

New subject - Scottish Christmas Traditions - My Scottish greats and grand, who immigrated to Pennsylvania, died before I was born and those celebrations are unknown to me.  Anything you can pass on to me regarding these traditions would be appreciated.

Thanks,
SRT
Title: Re: Death of Daniel Cameron
Post by: Forfarian on Saturday 26 December 20 20:20 GMT (UK)
Yes, I have found errors on several family trees, both  Ancestry and FamilySearch.  Discouraging.  Did not know the interchangeability of Donald/Daniel.  Speaking of which, is Colin interchangeable with John and Callender with Alexander?
I wouldn't have thought so, but could these be mistranscriptions? Have you seen the originals?
Title: Re: Death of Daniel Cameron
Post by: Sandy Run Trail on Sunday 27 December 20 22:33 GMT (UK)
Hello Forfarian,

Yes, the 1881 Census Falkirk, Scotland has the CAMERON listing showing:

COLIN, age 11 - known as JOHN on immigration passenger list

CALLENDER, age 8 - known as Alexander (my Grandfather), on immigration passenger list.

SRT