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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (West Riding) => Topic started by: Milliepede on Friday 16 June 23 15:29 BST (UK)
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I am happy to obleige to solve some brickwalls. I have experience as I stumbled across many brickwalls myself, such as Denmark, Germany, France, England, Ireland, Scotland, Austria, Canada, United States, and Poland.
If I cannot solve them, I will provide you with as much information as posible.
James was born Yorkshire. Only on the 1841 census in Huddersfield where he is 45 and a labourer.
He is with wife Sarah and children.
Occupation on older children's baptisms at St Nicholas Cumberworth 1816-1826 describe him as husbandman or farmer and place of abode either Cumberworth or Birkhouse lane so the family must have moved to Huddersfield sometime before 1841.
No baptisms found for the younger children 1829-1835
This is my paternal great great great grandfather but who were his parents?
Any help gratefully received.
Thank you.
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Is Sarah on any later census :-\
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Yes Rosie she is in 1851 age 55 as a widow born Kirkburton with some of her children and remarries in 1854.
In 1861 she is with second husband William Woodhead at Cumberworth then dies before 1871.
I don't know her parents either as frustratingly no father is named when she remarries but that's for another topic.
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Thank you Millie :)
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He is in
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Birkhouse Lane is in Dalton which is in Kirkheaton parish but it is on the west side of Wakefield Road so it can also come under the Almondbury parish.
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Looking for any help with Jane/Jeannie Milligan. She was born approximately 1895 in Maryport and married Hugh Buckley, also b in Maryport. They moved to Clydebank soon after the 1911 ( at Maryport in this census) Hugh and two brothers joined the army in 1914 from an address in Clydebank.
Hugh and Jeanie had 6 children. Hugh died in 1975 but I can’t find and trace on SP from Jeanie!
Thanks
I have asked the moderators to move this post as it is not relevant to the Hinchliffe request
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Birkhouse Lane is in Dalton which is in Kirkheaton parish but it is on the west side of Wakefield Road so it can also come under the Almondbury parish.
Thanks J.R.Ellam. We have spoken about this family before.
I wonder if that area is where James originated :-\
Have checked baptisms for eldest children 1816/1818 which give his abode as Cumberworth Half
then in 1823/1824 we have Birkhouse.
Occupation for James is variously husbandman, farmer or labourer.
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There is a Birk House lane part of Cumberworth - see link below
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Birk+House+Ln,+Huddersfield/@53.5795373,-1.6902807,16.46z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x487bd84dc94cecc9:0x3e548bc7ae898d8a!8m2!3d53.5817166!4d-1.6902449!16s%2Fg%2F1tvdjbm2?entry=ttu
Plus these old threads may help
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=612247.msg5162847#msg5162847
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=617749.msg4664331#msg4664331
also put " Hinchcliffe Cumberworth " in the SEARCH on top horizontal menu
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Looking for clues to the origins of James Hinchliffe born c 1796 d 1843 Huddersfield.
This one?
HINCHLIFFE, JAMES
Age at Death (in years): 55
GRO Reference: 1843 S Quarter in HUDDERSFIELD UNION Volume 22 Page 182
Burial at Huddersfield, 16 July 1843
James Hinchliffe
Abode Paddock
Age 55
Puts his birth back to circa 1788
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Yes that's the death I have pegged for him. I got the certificate many years ago and Sarah was the informant. Didn't give her relationship to James.
As you say that pushes his birth year back somewhat.
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He is in
HistoricalGenealogy I see that Milliepede was responding to your very kind offer, have you managed to find any information that would help us in this search.
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There seem to be two possible marriages for James Hinchliff
4 Nov 1816, Kirkburton, to Sarah Wood
7 April 1817, Kirkburton, to Sarah Wimpenny
I am kind of leaning to the Wimpenny one :-\
Yes Rosie she is in 1851 age 55 as a widow born Kirkburton with some of her children and remarries in 1854.
In 1861 she is with second husband William Woodhead at Cumberworth then dies before 1871.
I don't know her parents either as frustratingly no father is named when she remarries but that's for another topic.
There are quite a lot in the register whose fathers are not named, including William. Perhaps they weren't naming any fathers who were dead.
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Thanks for posting jonw65.
Yes there were a couple of candidates for Sarah but when someone helped me years ago she plumped for the Wood one so I went along with that but was never 100% sure.
There was a baby Eliza baptised to a James & Sarah later in Nov 1816 so if the earlier marriage was her parents they left it pretty late. The baby died so couldn't follow that up.
Will have another look at the Wimpenny option.
There are quite a lot in the register whose fathers are not named, including William. Perhaps they weren't naming any fathers who were dead.
Now that's interesting. I often wondered why he didn't name a father either when he named one at his first wedding. You could well be right about the fathers being deceased. It is frustrating when that one name would have told us who Sarah was.
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There's a Sarah Hinchliffe wife of James who died 1836 buried Kirkburton so she could be one of them but we still don't know which one :-\
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Thought this may amuse you
Norfolk Chronicle 28 November 1829
At Kirkburton, Yorkshire Mr J Hinchliffe of Birk House to Mrs Ann Senior of Shepley. Though only 28 years of age this is the fourth visit by the lady to the hymeneal altar.
The 1836 Kirkburton burial for a Sarah Hinchliffe gives birth c1759 on the NBI
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There was a baby Eliza baptised to a James & Sarah later in Nov 1816 so if the earlier marriage was her parents they left it pretty late. The baby died so couldn't follow that up.
I missed that one :(
Probably swings it back to Sarah Wood!
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Both Eliza (28 Nov 1816) and Charlotte's baptism (09 Apr 1818) have abode as Cumberworth Half and James occupation as Husbandman.
The Sarah Wood marriage has a witness Uriah Hinchliffe
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Thanks Rosie. Yes I've looked at Uriah before but he wasn't any help :-\ He needn't have been a relative as I understand the surname is a lot more common there than it is here!
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This is Jame’s Baptism (Most Likely) in Huddersfield, St Peter:
James HINCHCLIFFE - Baptized May 2nd, 1794
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01sgg/
(https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N13W-TJQ)
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That link can only be seen by people with an ancestry subscription. I have one to uk but the link goes to Ancestry US so can’t be seen.
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That link can only be seen by people with an ancestry subscription. I have one to uk but the link goes to Ancestry US so can’t be seen.
…Here’s the Familysearch.org link:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N13W-TJQ
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The familysearch and Ancestry links differ on both Parish and date of baptism. Having seen the image on Ancestry I have my doubts about either date being right ::)
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We also need to consider that James was probably born earlier than 1795
Looking for clues to the origins of James Hinchliffe born c 1796 d 1843 Huddersfield.
This one?
HINCHLIFFE, JAMES
Age at Death (in years): 55
GRO Reference: 1843 S Quarter in HUDDERSFIELD UNION Volume 22 Page 182
Burial at Huddersfield, 16 July 1843
James Hinchliffe
Abode Paddock
Age 55
Puts his birth back to circa 1788
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Milliepede, do you know who Sarahs parents were in case children of James and Sarah were named after them.
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Hinchcliffes’ family are from Huddersfield most likely as there are many
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Hinchcliffes’ family are from Huddersfield most likely as there are many
If only family history was that straight forward :)
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Hinchcliffes’ family are from Huddersfield most likely as there are many
Some strayed over the border too ;)
There are other difficulties which may arise in searches.
This query is for Hinchliffe but both your recent posts refer to Hinchcliffe.
They are variations but might make a difference in searching.
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Milliepede, do you know who Sarahs parents were in case children of James and Sarah were named after them.
Sadly not. No father is named when she remarries and the youngest child listed in 1841 - John - who was born after birth registration and would have given her maiden name turned out to be daughter Charlotte's child.
Children's names were - Eliza - Charlotte - Amelia - Mark - Herodia/Rhoda - Elizabeth - Thomas - Emma - George.
No baptisms found for the youngest 4.
Thomas is my link and left Yorkshire for good between 1841/1851. He has been easier to trace in this area as the name was not well known.
Have researched all the children apart from George who goes awol after 1851.