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i go regularly to the records office in derbyshire, if anyone wants a lookup doing i dont mind
moira
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Hi Moira
That's a really kind offer. I wonder if you could help me with the birth of Bridget Burke circa 1857. I know from census records that she was born in Matlock, Derbyshire. The index of births shows two possibilities:
Chesterfield June 1858 7b 500
Hayfield Sep 1856 7b 573
As you are likely to know the area better than me, could you tell me which registration district births in Matlock would fall under? I need to order the certificate to ascertain the mother's maiden name. Parents were Richard and Bridget Burke, both born in Ireland, as was their elder daughter Mary (my ancestor)
Also, if you were able to find a baptism entry for Bridget that would be fantastic, and much appreciated!
Thanks again
Regards Julie
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what a great offer, i
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trust me hit the button to fast!! no wonder I havent been able to find ggggrandfather Francis Tivey hes the one I would like you to look up please
Francis Tivey born c1811 Melbourne Derby possible father is William Francis Tivey but I havent found any trace yet.
thanks sandie
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Hi
could you tell me which registration district births in Matlock would fall under?
Matlock Registration District Derbyshire.
Created : 1.7.1837.
Abolished : 1.1.1839 (succeeded by Bakewell district).
Sub-districts : Bakewell; Matlock; Tideswell.
GRO volumes : XIX (1837-38).
It is not covered by Chesterfield or Hayfield.
Kind Regards
Tuppie
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hi tuppie, looking at the registration district website, it seems that matlock comes under derby.
moira
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Hi.
From 1.1.1839 to 1974 it came under Bakewell.
Bakewell Registration District.Derbyshire.
Created : 1.1.1839 (previously Matlock district).
Sub-districts : Bakewell; Matlock; Tideswell.
GRO volumes : XIX (1839-51); 7b (1852-1946); 3A (1946-74).
In 1857 an event would be registered in the Bakewell registration district.
Below is the Derby Registation District.
DERBY REGISTRATION DISTRICT Derbyshire.
Created : 1.7.1837.
Sub-districts : Derby; Derby Central; Derby First; Derby North; Derby North West; Derby Second; Derby South; Derby South East; Derby Third; Osmaston; St. Alkmund; St. Peter.GRO volumes : XIX (1837-51); 7b (1852-1946); 3A (1946-74).
Kind Regards
Tuppie
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I am a bit worried that the 1861 and 1871 both just have Derbyshire. Matlock may not be very reliable.
If it doesn't work out you could try Thomas Burke March qtr 1859. It is in the subdistrict of Lowton (Wigan & Leigh) which seems to fit with him being born at Golborne.
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Hi Gardener
Yes, it does look like it would be more sensible to order that certificate instead of trying to find one for Bridget - I'd still love to find the entry for Bridget though, in a vain attempt to work out why she was born in Derbyshire rather than Lancashire.
Regards, Julie
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Hi Moira - what a kind offer - and can I take you up on it ....??
JOSEPH STAFFORD was born c1795 in New Mills, Derbyshire - the date and place come from the 1861 census when he was living in Salford.
Joseph married Charlotte Metcalfe/Medcalfe 22 February 1818 in Glossop; their first child appears to have been baptised in Mellor - James on 30 July 1820.
I have not been able to find anything on the IGI - and as yet, have not persuaded my husband to have a holiday in Derbyshire!
Best wishes
Barbara
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hi barbara, did i do this lookup for you, if not i apologise and will do it this coming wednesday.
moira
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Thanks Moira - I would be grateful if you could do the lookup - when you have time!!
Barbara
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Hi Moira,
I would appreciate a lookup for Eckington, Derbys. The names are Isaac Fretwell born 1798 and John Fretwell born 1796 (both are close approximations). I did check some of the records from the LDS but as yet have had no luck. These are my husbands ancestors.
Regards and thanks,
Doris
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Hi.
I have some transcribed Eckington baptisms and there are no FRETWELLS baptised at Eckington in this time frame.
Kind Regards
Tuppie
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Hi Tuppie,
Many thanks, do you know if there are any other records that have not been indexed, the place of birth was clearly given as Eckington both in the censuses and military records.
Is there any other area locally that folk would have travelled to for baptisms?
Thanks again,
Doris
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hi moria,it is not to much trouble i wonder if you look to see if yoy can find my grt grandfather's birth his name was joseph fokinther,i have his marriage certificate but there was no fathers name on it he was born circa 1865,the family lived in the brackenfield area thanks for the great offer,best wishes josie
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Hi Ramsfan.
There is a Samuel Joseph on the 1871 census in Brackenfield living with his grandparents. Is this the same Joseph ...?
Joseph aged FOKINTHER 62 Ag Lab born Scarboro
Jane aged 58 FOKINTHER born Scarboro
Ann BROOKS dau Married aged 23 born Scarboro
Samuel Joseph FOKINTHER aged 5 grandson born Chesterfield.
Regards
Tuppie
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hi tuppie yes it is i have been trying to find out who is mother was .i wanted to send for his birth certicate but i couldn't find his birth .thanks very much for the info best wishes josie
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Hi Moira
I would also like to take up your kind offer of a look up when you can fit it in.
Jeremiah Slater married Ann Sanders 25 April 1825 at Duffield.
Any additional information from the marriage entry would be a bonus.
Thanks very much
Carol
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Moira,
Hope you might be able to help sometime.
My 3x gt grandfather was George Fern b. Bonsall abt 1809 (+/- 2 yrs). His children were all born in Heaton Norris, Stockport from 1831-1838 and were Henry, Ann, John and Susannah. In 1841 George and his family were in Chorlton in Medlock, Manchester and with them was (I guess) his mother Sarah Ferns aged 73 (b. abt 1768) (Fern, Ferns, Fearn, Fearns all used at some time or another) In 1851 George's daughter Ann was in service in Cheetham Hill, Manchester and, in the same household, there was another Sarah Fearn also in service aged 56 (b. abt 1795) in Bonsall, Derbyshire. She must have been related and possibly an older sister, cousin, aunt etc.
A baptism or birth record for George would be wonderful. (Hopefully this would confirm Sarah as his mother and give me his father.)
Thanks in anticipation.
Phil
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Is there an index of grave inscriptions, for New Mills, Glossop and Hayfield? Looking for a John Rusby, died about 1841, possibly in Glossop.
It would be great to find graves for Rusby and Linney for 1700's and 1800's.
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Moira, what a kind offer for look ups in Derbyshire. I am a descendant of Israel Wood b late 1600s who migrated to Brookhaven New York and then moved to Ulster County New York. This Israel Wood was supposed son of George Wood b mid 1600s of Derbyshire, England and Israel was also the nephew of John Wood, the Mariner, who also migrated to Brookhaven, New York. George and John possibly were brothers. Not sure if George Wood came to America, but much research to support that Israel Wood came about 1664 with James, Duke of York. This Wood branch were known to descend from the Earl of Warwick, but I don't know which Earl of Warwick it was, Rich or Dudley. Any help would be most appreciated.
Regards,
Patty
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Hi Moira
I would like to take your kind offer of a free look-up. I am tracing a ggfather in Baslow Derbyshire.
The man was James or Caleb Barker born in 1830-1831. Father George and Mother Sarah
My problem has been that this person seems to have used both names on different documents, so I am trying to establish if he was given two christen names. Equally was there a person with either of those names.
regards
Donald Wood
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Wondering if the offer still stands.........I am looking for my gg grandfather John Bridgart whose was born abt 1787 in Derby. Went to Australia abt 1850. Would like birth information if possible.
Regards
JocelynM
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sorry everyone, i have suspended this service for the time being as not got time to go due to work comittments.
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Moira,
If you could be so kind I'm hoping that the inquest record will be on film, for my relative.
He is Jacob Jackson Collier killed at The Hartshay Mine Ripley on 3 Sept. 1866 aged 52 from a fall of coal and bind.
The inquest was held 5 Sept 1866, I have his death certificate. Thank you in advance.
Roy Jackson Canada.
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Hi Moira...I am looking for information on the foreparents of Gilbert Mills and Margaret Ashmore who were married in Derbyshire Parish on 4 Oct. 1635...He was from Duffield and she was from Belper. Can you help?
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Hello Moira.
I have a William Lewis Wilson born Witney. Oxfordshire 1843. His parents were Joseph and Elizabeth Wilson, the family moved from Deddington, Oxford, circa 1854. to Darley Abbey, Derby. He is listed on the 1861 census, but after this I lose him.
Joseph was a papermaker born Wells Somerset 1815 and died Darley Abbey 1878. William's mother Elizbeth died 1882 also Darley.
Any info on William Lewis would be much appreciated.
Best
Ken
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sorry everyone, i have suspended this service for the time being as not got time to go due to work comittments.
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Hello..I don't mean to hi-jack Moira's thread.but i have been researching the TIVEY family for somebody else on another site..........It's a bit confusing because the Melbourne registers do not have a Francis Tivey 1811.
What it does have is (oddly..but quite common) is..
FRANCS TIVEY..born 31.10.1821 not baptised till 07.09.1831..son of William and Mary.....which might explain why you're having difficulty.
I'll look further into this.
Derek.
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Hello Donald..in the absence of Moira..I ma happy to tell you that MR.Barker was baptised at Baslow 03.07.1830 under the single name of CALEB..the son of George and Sarah..Source Baslow Parish records.
Derek.
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Hi Derek
Francis Tivey b 1811 Melbourne he is my 3 x grandfather......his birth does not seem to be anywhere!! but I have his attestation papers he was in the Royal Marines and became a Greenwich pensioner..........if you PM me we can exchange info
sandie
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hi only just seen this post, im looking for the children of daniel taylor (1861) and harriet peach(1858)
i know one child grace taylor (1887) but my grandma informs me there were more.
thanks :)
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Hello
Would it be possibel for you to look me up a baptism at the Derbyshire records office please?
I'm after the baptism onf Margaret Hope Halsall who was born in March 1915. I think she was born in Hope but could be Chapel En le Frith.
Thankyou
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Hi Moira
I would also like to take up your kind offer of a look up when you can fit it in.
Jeremiah Slater married Ann Sanders 25 April 1825 at Duffield.
Any additional information from the marriage entry would be a bonus.
Thanks very much
Carol
Hey, I am also looking into the same family. I am so stuck now :(
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Hi
Carol the image Of the marriage slater/sanders can be seen on family search. You have to register with your e mail address and pass word, no financial info is required.
1841 they were living in Derby, Jeremiah born abt 1805 he died prior to 1851 census. There is a Bpt 1805 South normanton Derbyshire.
Occupation on various Bpt records for his children state he was a stone mason, which matches with 1841 census.
What are you actually stuck with?
Spendlove
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Sorry I replied to carols thread lol, I'm emma I am researching the same person as carol.
I'm subscribed to ancestry but I just get stuck on where to find information going back to 1800s as it's mostly parish records and it baffles me 😩😩😩
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What a kind offer. I would be so pleased if you could look up a Joseph Creswell/Cresswell in Horsley Woodhouse please? I know that he married Mary Horsley there ion 15 April 1771. Mary was from Nottinghamshire and I have some records for her. Joseph however, is a mystery.
I have looked up Philimore's parish registers for Horsley and cannot find a marriage of a Creswell before the 1771 date for Joseph and Mary so finding his birth there may be a bit of a dead end.
I presume that if Joseph married in 1771 his birthdate must range from about 1740 to 1751.
It has got to the stage where I am speculating without evidence so it would be fantastic if at least I could either rule his birth in Horsley either in or out.
Thanks, marp
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Hi Moira, I'm looking for a Coroner's record from 1838. George Bates (the younger) died at Swarkestone on the 11th of September that year and the death was registered on the 14th of September. The cause of death was Apoplexy and the Coroner was Josh Sale. I'm trying to find out if this George Bates was my ancestor and so I need any family information that may be in the Coroner's report. My ancestor's wife's name was Rebecca Cross. If this can be confirmed or otherwise I would be most grateful.
Kind regards,
Colin
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Hello, if you are still nice enough to do this, my first definite ancestral record is of Thomas Fouke of Codnor marrying Dorothy Cham at the Church of St. Lawrence in Heanor on October 30, 1616. Would there be other records of him or Dorothy in Codnor? Thank you if you want to look for me.
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I am seeking information on my g-g-g-grandmother Ann PYM born @20 March 1803, Belper, Derbyshire died @20 November 1885 in Belper. She married Mathew TURTON 22 Jan 1822 in Denby, Derbyshire. I am seeking clues as to her parents, grandparents et cetera.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Keith
Canada
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There is a baptism - St Peter, Belper, on 27 March 1803 (image available via Ancestry)
Ann, daughter of Joseph and Rosamond Pym
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A sister, Eliza, baptised 24 January 1808 - again at St Peter, Belper
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There is a transcription for a marriage at Duffield - 7 March 1802
Joseph Pym and Rosamond Mawkes
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Hello, would there be mention of a Thomas Fouke, Fauke, Fowke, etc. or any member of the Fouke family in the North Wingfield Court Roll of Sir Francis Leeke, am looking for records of this family at that location, Thank You.
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There is a transcription for a marriage at Duffield - 7 March 1802
Joseph Pym and Rosamond Mawkes
Thank you, BumbleB, for this information. I appreciate your efforts in furthering my search
K
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Hi
Re the Bpt of Ann Pym 1803 Belper. This did not take place at St. Peter's Church, Belper this
Church was not built until 1825. Can only assume that Ancestry have this listed as St. Peters Belper because this is the modern name for this parish.
The Bpt took place at St. Johns Belper, which was a Chaplry to Duffield. There were only Bpt and burials at St. Johns marriages were in Duffield. St. Johns was built C1250 google search will find images.
If you find the image of the Bpt on Ancestry, you will see at the bottom of your screen it is
image 73, however if you go to image 2 you will see that it states "Baptisms within the Chapelry of Belper".
Joseph Pym was born in 1782 died 1853 was Clerk to Belper poor law union, his son George and ancestors eventually became solicitors with an office at The Triangle Belper.
Hope this helps.
Spendlove
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Hello,
If this offer is still open, I would be most obliged if you could find any more information on Eliza Buxton who was buried at St Thomas Church, Brampton. The only information that I have found is the date of burial which was 15th December 1899, her age at death was 41 and that she lived in Brampton. Her death was registered in Chesterfield (Vol 7b, page 443).
Thank you
John Buxton
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Hi
Eliza with husband Richard are on the 1891 census Brampton as BURTON, per Ancestry.
Eliza 34
Richard 37
Thomas 10
Abram 8
Annie 6
Arthur4
J Henry 2
All born Brampton
Spendlove
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Hi Spendlove,
I had discounted this family because although Richard Rhodes Buxton died in a mining accident in 1900, his widow was still alive at the time of the 1911 census.
But thanks for the information; it explains why I couldn't find them in that census.
Regards John
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Hi John
Had another go at this, have you looked at
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995
Probate 1900
Buxton, Eliza of 117 Chatsworth Rd, Chesterfield(wife of William Buxton) died 13th December 1899
Admin Derby 22September to William Buxton greengrocer effects £163 17s 9d.
William is at this address 1901 with children
William 44
Miriam 17
Charles 15
Eliza 12
Mary Ann 9
Lucy 6
William 3
Spendlove
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Hi
Little more info
William was born abt 1857 Alfreton, son of Charles and Miriam is on 1861 Census Alfreton. Transcribed on Ancestry as BAYTON.
1871 and 1881 still in Alfreton, by 1881 he is married to Eliza born Sutton in Ashfield Notts.
Looking for marriage.
POSSIBLE Marriage. Dec q 1877 to Eliza Bent
Spendlove
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Hi John
Found the marriage for Eliza Bent, but no image the info is from FindMyPast and it is a transcript by Nottinghamshire Family History Society who have copyright.
So assume I am not allowed to give the info.
Can say they
married in Parish Church of the birth place she gives on 1881 Census
Hope this is the Eliza you were looking for.
Spendlove
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Miriam & Lucy's births on GRO
BUXTON, MIRIAM BENT
GRO Reference: 1884 J Quarter in BELPER Volume 07B Page 666
BUXTON, LUCY BENT
GRO Reference: 1894 S Quarter in CHESTERFIELD Volume 07B Page 673
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Hello, wondering if anything can be found about a Thomas Fouke/Fauke/Fowke and/or his family, who was a substitute churchwarden representing Codnor and Loscoe, at the Church of St. Lawrence in Heanor for the year 1613, his presumed first wife Ana Fouke buried at that same church Aug. 8, 1616, and married to Dorothy Cham, again at that church, on Oct. 30, 1616, Thank You.
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How Kind and Appreciated. I have a John Bennett born. Grassmoor Derbyshire about 1841 died age 84 buried in Hasland cemetery. 1929. I am trying to find his marriage possibly early 1865. He went off to Australia for a short time but returned and in 1887 went to America Greensburgh Pennsylvania for 11 years. Working as a Miner. His wife died name unknown age 28 while in Greensburgh leaving 4 children. John then returned to Grassmoor with his children again working at Grassmoor colliery Any help would be appreciated. Thank You. Gales
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Hi,
You have John Bennett born 1841 died 1929 Hasland aged 84, think you have a typo as the registration of his death is March Q 1929 Chesterfield registration District aged 84, so must be born abt 1845.
Assuming this is the correct John Bennett, he was born 1845 Sutton in Ashfield, Nottinghamshire.
He married 11 July 1865 Chesterfield his wife was a widow Sarah Jane Gilbert (image on Ancestry).
This is confirmed by the 1871 Census Hasland, where a Mary Elizabeth Gilbert aged 7, is listed as step daughter to John Bennett. They have a son together Harry born abt 1869 if you follow him on census he appears to have child born USA.
Mary Elizabeth Bennett is 26 in 1871 census, so if this is correct person she must have died USA about 1873.
Spendlove
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Spendlove, Thank You for Your Reply. Really Appreciated, The details I had was given to me by my Uncle age 94 so i can understand a little confusion with dates. Yes my error John Bennett was born Sutton In Ashfield , It is obvious he was in Pennsylvania before 1887. This hasn't been confirmed but there is a question of another daughter Stella E born 1868 in Greensburgh, 3 children returned to the UK after his wife died not 4. I have a photograph of the family 2 girls and a boy. Taken just before she died. I guess they must be Mary Elizabeth, Harry and possibly Stella E. Thank You Again for Your Time. Appreciated. Gales
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Spenlove Hi, Stella E Bennett wasn't connected to John Bennett. the daughter was Ethel M Bennett born Greenburgh Pennsylvania 1894 A few things don't appear to add up. On John Bennett's obituary it states he went to America 1887 stayed 11 years. He traveled back with his 3 children alone. His wife Sarah Jane born 1845 was said to had died age 28 in America. (1873] Not possible, she then appears on the 1901 and 1911 census with John in Hasland Derbyshire. cannot find anything on the ships lists. But thanks again for your help. gales
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Hi Gales,
I think that some of the story has become confused.
Ethel May born 1894 and Thomas H, born 1896 both born USA were the children of Henry Bennett
The son of John Bennett.
See 1901 census for Hasland, where you will see them listed.. in this census the wife of Henry is an
Elizabeth.
There is a child born 1898 William A, and Mary E aged 4 months so born Dec 1900, both registered in Chesterfield per freeBMD. The maiden name of the mother of both these children is Renwick
However I cannot find a marriage for them in England.
It is quite possible that Henry married just prior to leaving for America, there is a Henry getting married 1888 Chesterfield to either a Betsy or a Mary Eliza, who then died in America.
You say you have the obituary, can you give details as to which newspaper it appears?
Spendlove
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That could be helpful. I’m new to this so unsure where I need to look/post? My great grandad was born 1895 and died 1932 suddenly but I’m trying to find cause of death?
Thomas Henry Swann
His son was same name born in 1916 so it mixes up records on ancestry. If you find anything, give me a shout! Thanks.
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Welcome to rootschat, Juleshendana.
Your post isn't in quite the correct place, but you could ask for it to be moved by a moderator?
Meanwhile....
Are you sure of the birth and death dates for your great grandad - he would be around 37 if died in 1932? I can see a death for someone of 45 in Derby.
Have you applied for the death certificate - easiest starting point for cause of death?
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Thomas Henry Swann was 27 when he married Matilda Hague on January 31st 1914, his father John, a labourer, was deceased, and he had been living at 25 Spa Lane Derby, working as a carter. Henry Swann was a witness, and this information shows on Ancestry.
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I think his parents were John Swan and Elizabeth Wilkins/Wilkens - fits with censuses and siblings - his birth registered March quarter 1885 in Lichfield.
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Spenlove. So sorry for late reply not well Unfortunately cannot read the date or name of the paper, however it was brought to my notice that HENRY was,my uncles Grandfather and John Gt Grandfather. Ethel May born 1894 Greensburg married George B Wells 1914 Derbyshire UK Mother to Ronald born 1925 {Uncle] age 96. Appreciate the start you gave me We have now completed details of both John and Henry Bennett's family's and more. Thank You Appreciated. gales