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Well after 1hr and 20minutes Windows 10 installed with no problem? Touch wood. :D
[I would imagine the problems - set backs - will manifest over the coming weeks.]
Brian
What I forgot to mention: For those who have a battery dependant machine, put your machine onto mains power (charge) because the update can take a couple of hrs or more depending on download speed!
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Just bookmarking this so I know where it is when I need to use your brains ::)
Lizzie
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Bookmarking - me too!
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One to watch out for!
Windows 10 kindly uninstalled my Norton 360 antivirus suite, ended up having to call on the troops for a reinstall. :)
Brian
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I've only used Microsoft antivirus etc. since I got Windows 8 and not had any problems, so I'm sure everything will be fine. According to Which magazine, if you've Windows 7 onwards, then Microsoft's own antivirus etc. is as good as anything else on the market - and it's free.
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One to watch out for!
Windows 10 kindly uninstalled my Norton 360 antivirus suite, ended up having to call on the troops for a reinstall. :)
Brian
Hi Brian, Although Windows 10 is now showing ready to install on my Laptop,I'm not very Technical and in view of the problem you,ve had with Norton ( I've got Norton Internet Security) I've not plucked up the courage to go ahead with it yet.
Where did you get the advice from to help you with reinstalling Norton please?
I'm trying not to panic about getting the same problem myself.
Barbara.
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Barbara: I entered 'norton online support' into web browser and let the Norton support team take control of the reinstall. (Disc not available to do myself)
Brian
My good lady wife has just advised me that her laptop is ready to update to Windows 10, I just advised her to wait till her hair grows a bit longer. lol :D
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Windows 10 is downloading in the background on my laptop. Talktalk have a notice on their email login to say it might not be compatible with windows 10, although I would n't be able to check anyway as its gone down,internal server error. At least I can surf! Norton's I have found it switched off after other updates.
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My laptop is a Lenovo G780 which I bought with Windows 8, (updated to 8.1). I never got the invitation icon but downloaded Windows 10 last night following a link given on a different thread. I knew Lenovo itself wasn't a problem as my husband has a Lenovo PC with Windows 7 and he got the invite. I posted on the Lenovo board and was told that my G780 hadn't been tested for compatibility with Windows 10 ??? Makes no difference, I've downloaded it now and it's not that different from Windows 8, it will be more of a change, I think, for people with Windows XP, Vista or 7.
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I had notice my download was ready this morning and so did and installation is now at 97%! Correction it's done! Thanks re Norton info.
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2hrs 15mins :o :o
Next question - how do I get my scrolling back ???
closing down now, should be in much earlier tomorrow ;)
snaptoo
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Sorted Norton, everything seems okay and mine took between 2 an2 hors 30 mins.
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Must be walking up here. Still not arrived.
Regards
Malky
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Anyone managed to get Adobe Reader set up as the default PDF reader?
Clicking on my collection of PDF I get some unknown software being used as default, tried resetting to Adobe but not included in the drop down list.
Adobe I know is installed as I can open it up.
Brian
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Mine arrived smoothly yesterday. However (inevitably a however??) my Canon printer doesn't print because Canon haven't yet determined whether W 10 is compatible so no driver yet. Not Microsoft's fault of course.
Brian - try putting in Set defaults programs into the search box then click next boxes as appropriate.
maxD
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Initially I opened a picture which as I said earlier 'didn't use Acrobat DC', checked preferred app which was set to dc then after doing a reboot appears now o'k.
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However (inevitably a however??) my Canon printer doesn't print because Canon haven't yet determined whether W 10 is compatible so no driver yet. Not Microsoft's fault of course.
Max - We've got a Canon printer and I can print from Windows 10, I didn't do anything just downloaded Windows 10 and everything worked exactly as it did with Windows 8.1.
Perhaps you've upgraded from Windows 7?
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At least I can now transfer photos from my 'phone to laptop using something called One Drive. Perhaps I could do that with Windows 8.1 and just never noticed. I know Microsoft intend Windows 10 to be used with all platforms, PCs, 'phones, etc. and for you to be able to link them all together, but I must say I was surprised when I clicked on One Drive to make a connection with my 'phone (so that I could transfer photos easily) and it instantly picked up the make and model of my 'phone, despite the 'phone being in a different room and turned off - spooky really.
I also found that photos I have stored on my laptop opened in a different way with the "new" photos app. I don't like it as all the photos were shown in the centre of a large black square. I've found that once opened there is a way of changing how they open, so I can now open them in Irfanview instead. Only problem is I can't see how I can now change back if I want to. ::)
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Hi,
I've downloaded Windows 10 and everything seems to be OK except for a couple of niggles! I lost my favourites list, but eventually found it, but I don't like the format it's in now. Can I change it?
The other thing is, when I download something from FindMyPast, it doesn't give me an option to "Save as" and just sticks it in the Downloads. Any ideas, anyone?
Keith
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At least I can now transfer photos from my 'phone to laptop using something called One Drive. Perhaps I could do that with Windows 8.1 and just never noticed. I know Microsoft intend Windows 10 to be used with all platforms, PCs, 'phones, etc. and for you to be able to link them all together, but I must say I was surprised when I clicked on One Drive to make a connection with my 'phone (so that I could transfer photos easily) and it instantly picked up the make and model of my 'phone, despite the 'phone being in a different room and turned off - spooky really.
Hi Lizzie,I'd like to be able to transfer photos from my phone to laptop as you have but havn't a clue how to do it.
Can you guide me a little bit please?
Thanks
barbara..
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Do you have Windows 10? If so, click on the Microsoft windows icon, and you'll find a list of Most Used - so in my case Mozilla Firefox, Mozilla Thunderbird etc. Then below that is a short list File Explorer, Settings, Power, All Apps. Click on All Apps and scroll down until you get to One Drive. Click on that and follow the instructions - I think that's how I did it. Oh by the way I was asked for an e-mail address and password to sign on. When I upgraded from Windows 8 to Windows 8.1 I was given an e-mail address by Microsoft (which I don't use but it shows up when I turn on my laptop) so I used that (it wouldn't accept my normal e-mail address) then it took me to google mail and I had to sign on to there also. But that could be just because my normal e-mail is g.mail.com and I have it on my 'phone also.
Good luck - if it doesn't work, try googling OneDrive to see how it works.
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Keith: Regarding downloads, I use Firefox.
To select where to store downloads click Tools then Options, select from drop down menu where you want to save.
Brian
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I use Firefox and my downloads and for some reason are always under my documents (in a left hand column which also has This PC and Network listed). I've no idea why it's there. Perhaps many moons ago when I first got Windows 8, I opted for it to be there.
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Thanks LizzieW. The thing must have been listening! I just printed without doing anything apart from reading your post. I'll never fully understand computers!
maxD
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I've found that once opened there is a way of changing how they open, so I can now open them in Irfanview instead. Only problem is I can't see how I can now change back if I want to. ::)
From the start menu select Settings/System/Default Apps and then select whatever you like in photo viewer. Irfanview should be showing for you now I assume.
Simon
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Thanks Locksmith - Yes Irfanview was showing. I tried one or two of the others, but went back to Irfanview as it's what I'm familiar with and I can change images etc.
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Thanks for your replies Brian and Lizzie. I'm using Internet Explorer and before Windows 10 whenever I clicked on download (from FindMyPast) another box appeared asking if I just wanted to save, or save as. That doesn't happen now and there is nothing to select Tools on the screen, so I have to go to my downloads then rename the file then move it to where I want it. Very annoying!!
I thought Firefox was closing down, as a few weeks ago I was going to start using it, but a friend told me not to bother. Have you heard anything?
Keith
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Hi Lizzie, thanks for your guide re copying photos from mob phone to PC.
Tied up (!!)in the kitchen at the present time but I'll give it a go after dinner.
Cheers.
Barbara.
P.S. Yes, I have got Windows 10, I managed to install it o.k last night - wonder of wonders
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I thought Firefox was closing down, as a few weeks ago I was going to start using it, but a friend told me not to bother. Have you heard anything?
I've not heard anything, all I heard was that when you upgrade to Windows 10 or get a device that already has it installed, you may be surprised to find that your default browser is set to Microsoft Edge by Windows and that Microsoft has changed how to set default applications.
However, I have Firefox and when I upgraded to Windows 10, it was still my default browser.
Lizzie
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I'm using Internet Explorer and before Windows 10 whenever I clicked on download (from FindMyPast) another box appeared asking if I just wanted to save, or save as. That doesn't happen now and there is nothing to select Tools on the screen, so I have to go to my downloads then rename the file then move it to where I want it. Very annoying!!
In Firefox select Options/General and under Downloads, check 'Always ask me where to save files', and your save box will be back.
Simon
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Taken the plunge and the laptop is now upgrading. It was stuck for 4 hours with the wheel going round saying "We're working on it" I then remembered I had Automatic Updates turned off, so switched it on. I don't know whether it was a coincidence, but after that it started the updates and has now reached 8%. It's told me to sit back and relax while it does it!
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Thanks for your replies Brian and Lizzie. I'm using Internet Explorer and before Windows 10 whenever I clicked on download (from FindMyPast) another box appeared asking if I just wanted to save, or save as. That doesn't happen now and there is nothing to select Tools on the screen, so I have to go to my downloads then rename the file then move it to where I want it. Very annoying!!
If you are using Windows 10 you may NOT be using Internet Explorer - Windows 10 has a new browser Microsoft Edge although you can still open sites from this in Internet Explorer .... click on the three dots in the right hand corner and select Open in Internet Explorer.
I thought Firefox was closing down, as a few weeks ago I was going to start using it, but a friend told me not to bother. Have you heard anything?
Keith
New one and will come as news to the Mozilla Foundation especially as they have two new versions of Firefox due to come out shortly one of which will be specifically for Windows 10.
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Just thought I'd share my experience in case it may be helpful to anyone.
I downloaded from the website to create an install DVD. After 14 hours it had reached 54% . . . then it suddenly disappeared without trace :'(
Not to be beaten, I started again and left it downloading all night and half the next morning and after 12 hours it finally finished. I burnt a DVD and started the install, but made the mistake of accepting the suggestion to look for updates. It then appeared to be trying to download the whole thing again so I aborted it and tried again but opted to leave the updates 'til later. The very limited broadband speed in this rural area caused most of the delays.
I selected the option to keep all my existing programs and data and set it going. The whole install took almost an hour, and I was very pleasantly surprised to find all my programs worked and all my docs, pics, etc were present. I had to let it find and install new drivers for the graphics card to get the best out of it but otherwise everything was fine, including Norton, although I had to log in to my Norton account to re-activate it for the new system.
I haven't tried every program on my system yet, but so far everything that worked in Windows 7 seems to be OK in Windows 10. In fact, once i'd uninstalled all the "new improved" features I don't need it was almost indistinguishable from Windows 7 ;D ;D
I expect I'll find a few gremlins over the coming days but my first day went better than I ever expected.
Mike.
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HELP: I've just noticed that my AVG icon has disappeared from the task bar and the home page now I've got Windows 10. Where has it gone and how do I get it back? I presume that the program is still there somewhere. Not too technical please!
ADDED: I've solved it by updating AVG from their site, running a repair and pinning it to the task bar. It's run a scan and everything is fine again. However, I notice that by putting AVG back it automatically disables the Windows security, which is okay as I believe you shouldn't have two running at the same time.
I'll leave this here in case anyone else has the same problem.
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I use Firefox and my downloads and for some reason are always under my documents (in a left hand column which also has This PC and Network listed). I've no idea why it's there. Perhaps many moons ago when I first got Windows 8, I opted for it to be there.
I dont get on with anything after windows 7 cant stand what's happening to computers these days. I was in the middle of doing s project for my husband with the idea of adding onto it gusaf hoLtz music to the plaNETS SUITE AND SOME OF THE VISUALS WHICH CAN BE SEEN ON UTUBE SO THAT IT WOULD ANNOUNCE HIS NEW COMPANY NAMED 5TH. DIMENSION FLOORS LTD, SIGNIFYING THAT HE CAN PPROVIDE ALL THE SPACE SANY COMPANY MAY REQUIRE
and because my o;d laptop gave u[ and he got me sanew one it has windows 8/.1 and I now cannot get the bl.......y thing to work on powerpoint
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OK I thought, give it a go. I installed W10 on my laptop when it became available.
Where has Skype gone? Why do programmes apps start up when my mouse pauses over them? With a bit of Googling that didn't take too long to sort out. Start menu has returned!! What are all these tiles from a kiddies book? No problem, unpin them. Firefox and Thunderbird work OK, as does OpenOffice. I'll just have a look at a file on my desktop PC, oops the networking seems to have disappeared.
Rolled back to W7 this evening. Still have to re-install Skype, but that is easy using W7.
Moral of this story: don't get caught up in the hype of the NEW IMPROVED Windows 10 if your PC does what you want it to do. However, if you 'like' or '+1' the Kardashians, go for it.
OK so I'm a dinosaur, I use my PC to actually do things and W10 was of no advantage to ME.
Have a nice day, if you want to, its not compulsory or mandatory.
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I had been underwhelmed by the response times, especially when looking at Rootschat, and the loss of my favourites. Then I had an idea, shut down Edge! Everything back to normal, including the download problem, thank goodness!! Then I saw your reply Falkyrn :D.
I'm glad to hear about Firefox, I think I'll give it a go.
Keith
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emmygee - I updated from 8.1 to 10 and haven't had any problems. I still have Skype - in fact the only thing is that I can't unpin it from the taskbar and when I started it up to check it was OK, it wanted me to add a photo of myself. I managed to ignore this.
Keith - I have unpinned Edge from the taskbar but it's not shut down, it's still listed in the apps, however, I didn't have any problems when I upgraded to 10. I use Mozilla and the icon was still on the taskbar so I just click on that to open it and everything is the same. The desktop view is the same with all the shortcuts I had still there.
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Have not yet been contacted by Microsoft in view of contradictory reviews and comments on 10 not sure whether saddened or relieved. Wait and see.
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Roger - I didn't get an invite either, I downloaded Windows 10 from a link Alan B gave on Rootschat. Here it is if you want to try it.
www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
Lizzie
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No problems now as I've set Chrome to be the default browser.
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I've just had a message from Microsoft to tell me that I've got too many apps downloaded and there's no room for any more. Odd that as the only apps that are downloaded came with Windows 10 and I deleted most of them. ::)
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Can anyone tell my how large a download it is please?
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According to information on the web
"Windows 10 download takes up roughly 4GB to 5GB of data, so it could take a while, depending on the speed of your internet connection."
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Thanks... it's the Internet Cafe for me so!!
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It takes about 2 hrs in all with fast broadband speed. About 20-30 minutes to get itself ready to download, then about 1hr 30 minutes to download. You'll have to be there as near the end it asks some questions about what your present files etc.
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Hi.
I'm reading all posts on here to help me (and it does)to get to grips with Windows 10.
I've had hiccups at times with it but I'm getting there slowly.
The one thing I'm struggling with at the moment is trying to work out how to change my Desktop picture/background.
Can't seem to find out where to look and how do it - any help would be appreciated.
Cheers.
Barbara.
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Put control panel in the "Search the web and Windows" box, click on Settings and one option is Personalisation. Click on that and go from there, it doesn't seem as simple as previous windows though.
What you can't do with Windows 10 is change the log on screen.
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Hi Lizzie,
Thanks for that,I'll try it later.
It was so easy to change Desktop background on Windows 7, right click on an image- select Desktop background and Hey Presto :(
Barbara..
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Put control panel in the "Search the web and Windows" box, click on Settings and one option is Personalisation. Click on that and go from there, it doesn't seem as simple as previous windows though.
A simpler method is to right click on an empty area of the desktop and select Personalise
The Lock screen can also be changed this way but the Log in screen (where you enter the password) needs a Registry hack to do this
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A simpler method is to right click on an empty area of the desktop and select Personalise
Which is the same as with Windows 7.
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strip out all the App-junk, rediscover where WIN Update is and a few other changed places to let you 'Personalize' ..... mess around with NVidia Drivers, marvel at the fact its nowhere near 'finished' .... and the nett of it is that it aint too different from WIN 7 !
Mine never did download via the GWX Icon ... I went ahead and did a manual d/load to Upgrade in place .... which is a nuisance as my OS drive has ended up as the 'D' drive, and you cant use Disk Mgmt to rename it 'C' as its the active SysRes !
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Not sure why it would be changed to D drive ???
I also took the manual download route and created an install DVD, as said in my earlier post, but it retained C as the System drive. Then I decided to delete my old Windows XP partition and use the whole drive for Windows 10. I couldn't do this from Disk Management so I used 'GParted' partition tool which took about an hour to do the job of moving 100GB of system and data to the start of the physical drive.
BUT . . . I then had to spend some time re-creating the Master Boot Record using the Repair option on the installation DVD. Not a job for the faint-hearted, so be warned ::) However, it did work perfectly eventually, but it took up most of my weekend!
Mike.
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A simpler method is to right click on an empty area of the desktop and select Personalise
Which is the same as with Windows 7.
I'd forgotten that. I have a short cut to Control panel on my desktop, so I always use that - and it didn't change with Windows 10, so I can use the old Control panel which I prefer - probably because I'm used to it.
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Not sure why it would be changed to D drive ???
It all started when I built a new 6-core AMD ... MS wouldnt let me reuse a WIN7 upgrade DVD I'd got 3 years ago to upgrade from VISTA.
I tried to do a clean install of WIN 7 from that DVD onto new PC's new SSD, and it wouldnt recognise the Product Key, so I couldnt Activate it ...
... so I started again by installing the old VISTA, and then used that WIN 7 DVD on that base to take it up to WIN 7 ..... worked fine, but had left VISTA on 'C', and WIN 7 became 'D'
So now I didnt build an ISO to do a clean install of WIN 10, by installing it on top of the WIN 7, its kept D as SysRes.....
I'll have a fiddle later - its not an issue, just looks odd after so many years of 'C' ...
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For the benefit of anyone who hasn't got there yet, even if you do the manual download and create an installation DVD, you MUST do the installation from within your existing Windows 7/8.1 system to qualify for the free upgrade. Once you have it working and it has registered itself with Microsoft you can do a clean re-install from the DVD if necessary but only on the same device.
Well, I think I got that right, but best check it out to be sure :-\
Mike.
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I intended to delay the upgrade to let some of the bugs to be shaken out. Looks like there are other bugs with the installation too.
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Still nothing perfect!
Just done a manual update on my wife's laptop, first stage 2hrs (ended up pressing exit) then 1hr doing the update.
All ended up pear shape, my wife and her love of fb will now have to wait till morning to do a restore.
Brian
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Oh dear, still can't change my desktop picture.
Lizzie, I went into Control Panel - Personalisation but couldn't find 'Change Desktop Picture', just Change Screen Saver, or are they one & the same?
Fed up trying to do the simplest task.
:-[ Barbara.
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Oh dear my family tree legends programme will not work :'(
Too old I guess. I regularly back it up but can the info be imported into a different programme that is windows 10 compatible?
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Oh dear, still can't change my desktop picture.
Barbara,
When you go into Personalisation you need to select 'Background'. This is what used to be Desktop. In there you can select a single picture (browse to what you want), a coloured background or a slideshow (a selection of pictures that continually change).
Simon
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Oh dear, still can't change my desktop picture.
Lizzie, I went into Control Panel - Personalisation but couldn't find 'Change Desktop Picture', just Change Screen Saver, or are they one & the same?
Fed up trying to do the simplest task.
:-[ Barbara.
Sorry I didn't get back to you Barbara, I've been out, but Simon has answered your query.
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Oh dear, still can't change my desktop picture.
Lizzie, I went into Control Panel - Personalisation but couldn't find 'Change Desktop Picture', just Change Screen Saver, or are they one & the same?
Fed up trying to do the simplest task.
:-[ Barbara.
If you are still having problems the "old" way you initially described of right clicking on an image and setting it as your desktop still works in W10 ..... its the third option down
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Windows 10 e-mail scam ::)
http://home.bt.com/tech-gadgets/tech-news/windows-10-email-scam-what-to-look-out-for-11363995391475
Sandra
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Hi, Thanks all for the tips re Changing Desktop pic.
Falkryn, I tried all methods,including the old method of right clicking on an image many times with no success,but after your recent post about it, I thought I'd give that 'old method' one last go and it suddenly worked - I couldn't believe it after trying many times.
Could it be another little blip that I've been experiencing since Windows 10 arrived and maybe still settling itself down.
Anyway, latest blip appears to be sorted at last - fingers crossed.I await possible further blips with bated breath. ???
Thanks all again.
Barbara.
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Since changing to Win10 (from 8.1), I've had a problem with Google maps (via Internet Explorer).
Say I Google for a particular street in a particular town (e.g. Jackson Street, Gateshead). I get the little map on the Google page, and when I click on it, it does come onto the full screen - but only for a few seconds - before I'm just left with an empty grid.
The Earth view is available in the bottom l/h corner of that screen and that seems to work as before, but when I click back to Map view, it's just a blank grid again. However, if I activate the Yellow Man to go walkies in Earth View, it takes me to Street View, which is what I wanted in the first place.
Is this how I'm going to have to use Google maps in future?
Any ideas, please?
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No problems now as I've set Chrome to be the default browser.
This concerns me as I don't like what chrome does to my W7
Not entirely comfortable with chrome
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You dont have to use Chrome as your browser, you can use anyone you like - I just prefer Chrome and have used it for years.
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:) I know, it was how I read that you said you had no problem once you switched to chrome ie you had problems before you did.
:)
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The only problem was that Windows 10 wanted to use Microsoft Edge as the default browser and opened with that everytime I logged on. I wanted to use Chrome, so had to set that as the default. If people are happy with Edge there is no problem.
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Windows 10 e-mail scam ::)
http://home.bt.com/tech-gadgets/tech-news/windows-10-email-scam-what-to-look-out-for-11363995391475
Sandra
Thanks Sandra - I've passed the info to our Neighbourhood Watch communications officer so he can send it to all the co-ordinators in our village for them to pass to everyone on their own road. At least most of my village should get to know about the scam.
Honestly, these scammers are despicable, and are on the lookout for another way to scam all the time.
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The only problem was that Windows 10 wanted to use Microsoft Edge as the default browser and opened with that everytime I logged on. I wanted to use Chrome, so had to set that as the default. If people are happy with Edge there is no problem.
I don't understand why everyone has had problems with Windows 10 wanting to use Edge. When I upgraded, everything I already used on 8.1 was exactly the same. I didn't have to set Firefox, which I use, to default it was already set. Perhaps it's just Chrome that Windows 10 doesn't like.
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Lizzie , as I understand it , most people are upgrading from 7. To me 8 to 10 doesn't seem that big a leap. For me I resisted 8 because I felt it was aimed at the kids and the KardCashitins generation.
I don't want apps. Give me files give me sauce on my sausages.
Grumpy Old Man ;D
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Hi Grumpy Old Man ;D
I guessed it was Windows 7 to 10 which was the big leap.
I had no choice but to get Windows 8. My other laptop started acting up so rather than lose everything we bought a new one. Windows 8 had just been introduced and, unless I wanted to pay a lot of extra money to get Windows 7 (I had Vista), then it was easier just to go with Windows 8. I was very apprehensive but once I'd got it sorted to my liking all was well.
8 to 10 might be a leap, but 8.1 to 10 certainly isn't.
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8 to 10 might be a leap, but 8.1 to 10 certainly isn't.
I agree, Lizzie. Apart from a few minor hiccups, things went smoothly and I haven't really noticed much difference.
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There are so many people on line (I don't mean on Rootschat) complaining about problems upgrading that I can't believe I didn't have any problems. There's even a story (which I don't believe) of a man who set his PC to upgrade to Windows 10 overnight, his wife was first down the following morning and found all his porn (which he'd stored in "My Pictures") had been turned into a slideshow.
How come my pictures were exactly where they were on Windows 8.1? The only thing was Microsoft wanted me to open them with their Pictures app, but I changed it so they open as I want them to, not as Microsoft want me to.
Lizzie
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I think it is like a lot of new things or updates, for some reason people would like them to fail or cause problems. You get a lot of people who haven't tried it complaining and saying how awful it is, repeating horror stories and saying how they would never upgrade. I don't think people can comment until they have given it a chance, then if they have problems or can't get on with it they are free to give their opinion.
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I had to get a new laptop a few weeks ago due to sudden death of previous one. It came with windows 8.1 and a reservation for windows 10. I reinstalled all the software I had on my old Visa laptop on the new one. (With exception of familytree maker which is not compatible with windows 8.1). Today I checked compatibility of the remaining software with windows 10 and find my version of Microsoft Office isn't compatible, my FTP file upload software says "no information" and my antivirus/ internet security software isn't compatible. This last is particularly annoying as we have recently renewed a three pc licence for three years for my laptop and OH's laptop and desk top.
Several other features are missing, the most annoying being DVD player
http://uk.pcmag.com/operating-systems-and-platforms/42383/feature/6-features-disappearing-in-windows-10-and-how-to-r
Has anyone else faund that software working on win 7 or Win 8 no longer works on Win 10.
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What antivirus are you using? As I've said previously on a post re Windows 10, my AVG vanished, but I was able to retrieve it by going to their site, updating and doing a repair. I would have thought that well known antivirus software companies will make their product compatible, otherwise they could go out of business.
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Bullguard. It is antivirus, firewall, PC optimisation and a few other things. We have used in on a succession of PC's and laptops and been very happy with it. We have tried Norton and Macafee in the past but they have given problems with some programmes - although Norton was back in the days of Win 3.1 and 95. MacAfee prevented me from opening word documents, which I knew were virus free because I had created them myself a few hours or days before.
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If anybody else ended up with a 'Dual Boot' (ie WIN 10 and your previous WIN7/8/8.1) & you want to eliminate the old one, and cant find the WIN 7/8/8.1 'System Configuration' tool to let you edit the Boot options ..... use MSCONFIG.exe in an Admin-level CMD prompt & the old tool appears !
Gawd knows why they've hidden it - away from Control Prog / System or the new SETTINGs thingy in WIN 10 !
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I had to get a new laptop a few weeks ago due to sudden death of previous one. It came with windows 8.1 and a reservation for windows 10. I reinstalled all the software I had on my old Visa laptop on the new one. (With exception of familytree maker which is not compatible with windows 8.1). Today I checked compatibility of the remaining software with windows 10 and find my version of Microsoft Office isn't compatible, my FTP file upload software says "no information" and my antivirus/ internet security software isn't compatible. This last is particularly annoying as we have recently renewed a three pc licence for three years for my laptop and OH's laptop and desk top.
Several other features are missing, the most annoying being DVD player
http://uk.pcmag.com/operating-systems-and-platforms/42383/feature/6-features-disappearing-in-windows-10-and-how-to-r
Has anyone else faund that software working on win 7 or Win 8 no longer works on Win 10.
Re MS Office - although the official line is that only newer versions of Office are compatible with Windows 10 older versions do work within it ( I had Office 2000 working on a W10 laptop)
re "journalists" and their list articles ..........
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That's good news! Thank you so much
Where's the "Like it" icon?
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Bullguard. It is antivirus, firewall, PC optimisation and a few other things.
After I updated from a 7 and a 8.1 machine, Bullguard was sitting there running perfectly well (with Defender and the Windows firewall off). So no worries here either.
Simon
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If anybody else ended up with a 'Dual Boot' (ie WIN 10 and your previous WIN7/8/8.1) & you want to eliminate the old one, and cant find the WIN 7/8/8.1 'System Configuration' tool to let you edit the Boot options ..... use MSCONFIG.exe in an Admin-level CMD prompt & the old tool appears !
Gawd knows why they've hidden it - away from Control Prog / System or the new SETTINGs thingy in WIN 10 !
Or just type MSCONFIG.exe into the search box. Not sure how that's different from Win7?
Simon
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I had a play for 5-10 minutes once i downloaded windows 10 but something nagged at me! I've no volume! Although its cured a few minor problems. No audio device installed it says and looking at the speaker icons there is a cross by them. I know its done it to others. The best thing is i've got iplayer and the new windowd dvd player but no use cos i can't hear them. Although like i say its worker better other than that.The laptop is 4 years old. Funny enough went into tesco at the weekend other computers were on advertising windows 10 but not the toshiba model! Can't see anythin on the websites but put messages on microsoft , computer active and toshiba.
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Help please. If I reserve the Free edition of W10, will it download automatically.
Can I choose when to install it myself.
I`m not sure I`m ready yet . Need to check whether printer / scanner etc will work on 10
Thanks
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Or just type MSCONFIG.exe into the search box. Not sure how that's different from Win7?
Simon
Its very different - SYSTEM CONFIG itself (w/o the need to use MSCONFIG) is easily found in WIN 7, to get to the Boot options menu ...
Help please. If I reserve the Free edition of W10, will it download automatically.
Can I choose when to install it myself.
@Wilcoxon - it depends on your Windows Update settings if it will download the 2.99Gb automatically, or invite you to download ..... after that its your choice when to install - all prompted by WIN UPDATE ...
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Its very different - SYSTEM CONFIG itself (w/o the need to use MSCONFIG) is easily found in WIN 7, to get to the Boot options menu ...
I think typing msconfig.exe into the search box was the most familiar way of bringing this up in Win7. However if you want to go in through the Control Panel just type 'Control Panel' into the search box, you can then select your familiar Control Panel then select Sytem Configuration from there if that's the way you like to access it. If you pin the Control Panel to the Start Menu (or even the Task bar or desktop), then to get to it will be identical to Win7.
Simon
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Help please. If I reserve the Free edition of W10, will it download automatically.
Can I choose when to install it myself.
I had Windows Update set to update automatically. The download happened before I could stop it but it failed. It then got stuck in a loop trying to download and preventing other updates from installing. I followed some suggestions on the Microsoft website which eventually resulted in my having to use System Restore in safe mode. I've now cancelled my reservation and won't be getting Windows 10 unless it's preloaded on a new machine !
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just type 'Control Panel' into the search box, you can then select your familiar Control Panel then select Sytem Configuration from there if that's the way you like to access it.
Not so!
The whole point of my original posting was to say that Sys Config was no longer accessible on WIN10 via Control Panel !
As to "typing msconfig.exe into the search box was the most familiar way of bringing this up in Win7" - each to their own I guess ...
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Help please. If I reserve the Free edition of W10, will it download automatically.
Can I choose when to install it myself.
I had Windows Update set to update automatically. The download happened before I could stop it but it failed. It then got stuck in a loop trying to download and preventing other updates from installing. I followed some suggestions on the Microsoft website which eventually resulted in my having to use System Restore in safe mode. I've now cancelled my reservation and won't be getting Windows 10 unless it's preloaded on a new machine !
Thanks.
I have 3 options for updates. I used to use 3 but changed to 1. Which option is best
regarding W10. Should I stick with 8.1 which I unwittingly ended up with without knowing it .
1 Download updates but let me choose whether to install
2 Install updates automatically (recommended)
3 Check for updates and let me choose whether to download.
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I thought I'd posted a message this morning but I can't see it. Oh well gremlins in the works I supposed.
The question is has anyone with Windows 10 noticed the name of an American poet/author in the top LH corner of the screen when first turning on PC. It is before the log on page appears. Today it was Mark Twain, can't remember yesterday's but it was a more modern poet/author. Below the name is a quotation, and if you click on it, you get taken immediately to a web page where there are lots of entries about said poet/author - that was weird because I didn't even have to log on. I usually just ignore it. Does it appear because I only close the lid on my laptop rather than actually turning it off, or is everyone else seeing this?
Lizzie
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just type 'Control Panel' into the search box, you can then select your familiar Control Panel then select Sytem Configuration from there if that's the way you like to access it.
Not so!
The whole point of my original posting was to say that Sys Config was no longer accessible on WIN10 via Control Panel !
As to "typing msconfig.exe into the search box was the most familiar way of bringing this up in Win7" - each to their own I guess ...
Anyone who finds Control Panel a little limited could try Windows "God Mode" ;D
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2881613/unlock-windows-10s-hidden-powerful-godmode-tool.html
It simply collects together most of the available administrator controls in a single folder. My folder was successfully copied from Windows 7 when I upgraded.
Mike.
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GodMode - LOL .... very good, now recall seeing it some years back .... but sadly, it doesnt have access to System Congfiguration menu/tool (where you can modify Boot Menus, suppress Services etc)
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Well, having loaded Windows 10, I first lost the bottom half of my screen, which took over 6 hours to sort out even using the so called help pages and the community. Early this morning I switched off as usual, but when I tried to switch on this morning at 05:30, total crash. Have been trying to repair and self repair, and finally at 15:30 hrs, it's up and working, but for how long, only time will tell. Not that impressed with it so far.
Regards
Malky
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Something to be wary of if you have already installed Win 10 or are about to install http://home.bt.com/tech-gadgets/computing/windows-10-how-to-stop-giving-away-personal-information-11363996337982 (http://home.bt.com/tech-gadgets/computing/windows-10-how-to-stop-giving-away-personal-information-11363996337982)
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just type 'Control Panel' into the search box, you can then select your familiar Control Panel then select Sytem Configuration from there if that's the way you like to access it.
Not so!
The whole point of my original posting was to say that Sys Config was no longer accessible on WIN10 via Control Panel !
As to "typing msconfig.exe into the search box was the most familiar way of bringing this up in Win7" - each to their own I guess ...
Sorry Lostris but you're confusing me. From the Control Panel in Windows 10 (which looks the same as Windows 7 Control Panel), accessing System Configuration is EXACTLY the same as from Windows 7 Control Panel. ie Select Administrative Tools then select System Configuration from the list of Tools presented.
As I said, if you put the Control panel as a short cut on your start menu then you have the same as windows 7 Which also has the control panel on it's start menu.
Simon
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Something to be wary of if you have already installed Win 10 or are about to install http://home.bt.com/tech-gadgets/computing/windows-10-how-to-stop-giving-away-personal-information-11363996337982 (http://home.bt.com/tech-gadgets/computing/windows-10-how-to-stop-giving-away-personal-information-11363996337982)
Certainly a good 'heads up' to make all users aware of the information shared with Microsoft!
[Looking down the options listed I just had the 2) option selected as on, 1)/3) and 4) listed as off]
Brian
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Sorry Lostris but you're confusing me. From the Control Panel in Windows 10 (which looks the same as Windows 7 Control Panel), accessing System Configuration is EXACTLY the same as from Windows 7 Control Panel. ie Select Administrative Tools then select System Configuration from the list of Tools presented.
As I said, if you put the Control panel as a short cut on your start menu then you have the same as windows 7 Which also has the control panel on it's start menu.
Simon
well, I'll be hornswoggled - I must have looked a dozen times, but missed it.
My apologies ! :-[
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well, I'll be hornswoggled - I must have looked a dozen times, but missed it.
My apologies ! :-[
No problem. I had the Control Panel pinned to the Task Bar in Win7 and it was still there after upgrade to 10. If not, I may have missed it too.
Simon
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If you right click on the Windows log (start button) Control Panel is one of the options there along with Device Manager etc.
Alternatively if you want the Control Panel on your desktop right click on the desktop select personalise, then themes and finally desktop icons and select Control Panel which places a Control Panel icon right on the desktop.
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Hi, another blip which I think I've caused somehow.
My start menu/ icons etc have now got a red background .
I've obviously done something accidently but I don't know how to get it back to normal.
Help please.
Thanks
Barbara.
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If you go start>settings>personalisation does it look like this
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Hi Jim,
Thanks very much for that.
All sorted now.
Cheers.
Barbara.
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Now then one for the experts! ::)
2 identical Windows 7 laptops updated within 24hrs of each other.
1) Shows the new Windows logo on start up going through to log on (my hotmail account/password)
2) Still showing Windows 7 logo/original log onto machine, then Windows 10 apps as per normal.
Both machines respond identical once started up, with the exception that desktop image in 2) is still the old backdrop.
[Machine 2) has had a Windows 10 uninstall/reinstall but no changes noted!]
Brian
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Well, still having problems. W10 has wiped my W7 backups. I now don't know if it's backing up or not. Last night's updates screwed with my backup external hard drive. I'm just nae affa pleased with it. Brings back memories of Windows 95.
REgards
Malky
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Both machines respond identical once started up, with the exception that desktop image in 2) is still the old backdrop.
Seems like win 10 has grabbed the old image from 7 & is using it as the default.
As you know you can change the login backdrop to any image.
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I now don't know if it's backing up or not.
You can access Win7 backup process in the usual way from the control panel.
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Brian,
Seems something similar to what I was experiencing with my OH's laptop. Kept getting the old Win 7 background and the start button would alternate between Win 7 and Win 10 ::) Win 7 kept seeping through the Win 10 overlay.
I ended up doing a factory restore of the operating system, which put everything into a backup folder then went back to the very beginning.... 300 updates later I got the invite to upgrade to 10 back. They lied! you still get the invite after 29th! I had also created a Win 10 CD, just in case I didn't get the invite.
Anyways... I upgraded again last night from initial download to the end took about 1hr 30mins. No horrible message "This is taking longer than expected" that I got last time.
It still stuck on opening Win 10, and wouldn't let me search or get anything from the start button. Forced restarted and all is well now. I've been able to add a Microsoft account to both users accounts. Windows 7 backgrounds are no longer there. I seem to have lost/mislaid my photoshop elements CD :o so that hasn't been loaded. Office and all the other programs survived the journey. I can still access all the backup folder etc., I suppose I shall have to put the printer drivers on their so that I can print via the network. That will be the next step! SIL who has Win 8 has been playing with it this morning and showing me some of the Win 8 tricks.
Whether I could have gotten out of the mess without doing a factory reset, I don't know but I got fed up with trying to sort it out and I had nothing to lose with the laptop.
THIS PC is staying WIN 7!!! I have far too much important stuff on here. It will stay that way until I buy a new pc.
It seems those who are going from Win 8 to Win 10 are having a smoother transition.
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"You can access Win7 backup process in the usual way from the control panel."
That would be OK if I had any Windows 7 backups left. But Windows 10 deleted them. Don't ask me why or how, but my external hard drive was wiped clean. There are now files realting to Windows 10 backup on said the hard drive. My LaCie hard drive desktop manager was working last night, prior to last night's Windows 10 updates. Now, it just sits in my desktop whistling tunes.
Good olde microsoft. Thank goodness we still have 2 in Windows 7 and 1 in XP.
Regards
Malky
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Did you leave the external hard drive attached to the pc when you did the upgrade or did the hard drive get wiped after the upgrade?
Unless the external hard drive was reformatted, the files should still be recoverable. I can't remember the program to download that can analyse the drive to see if it can find anything. I km
Now there are some old thread on recovering files.
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I have the program and equipment which can recover corrupted files on a hard drive or read damaged hard drives. This was wiped "clean". Strangely enough, it's a USB3 unit, connected to a USB3 card. The card was working at first, but now, W 10 does not like it. I have dropped it to USB 2.1 until I can get the "3" sorted out. It's just been a missmash of one problem after another. I have just checked the backup, and it did not complete at the last attempt.
Regards
Malky
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From the control panel you will see the Win7 backup schedule so you'll know it will back it up next time.
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It seems those who are going from Win 8 to Win 10 are having a smoother transition.
Much to my surprise my transition from 7 to 10 went incredibly well. I had copied all my docs, pics, etc to an external drive to be on the safe side but once the install was complete I had all my programs and data intact. In fact everything was exactly as it had been on 7, even down to the positions of my desktop icons and the desktop wallpaper. Even Norton was up and running, although I had to register the new system in my Norton a/c. My O/H didn't even have to do that on her laptop, which also upgraded smoothly from Win 7.
Maybe we were both just lucky . . . which in itself is unusual ::)
I imagine most of the reported problems are due to particular combinations of software and hardware.
Mike.
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Mike I upgraded from 8.1 to 10 and thought I must be the only person who had a smooth ride. Like you, everything was exactly as it had been on 8.1 down to the positions of the desktop icons and desktop wallpaper.
Perhaps if we're that lucky we should try our hand at the Lottery. ::)
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I only had a couple of minor problems, which I could sort quickly and easily, which was just as well as I'm not that technically minded!
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THIS PC is staying WIN 7!!! I have far too much important stuff on here. It will stay that way until I buy a new pc.
It seems those who are going from Win 8 to Win 10 are having a smoother transition.
Having read a lot- and thanks to all who have contributed- and being of a mind that if it aint broke why fix it change it or upgrade it, then I think I will do as you.
Its not about importance of materials , its not that I don't like change, its not that I am a grumpy old man ( well maybe) , I guess if I am honest with myself I resist being told that something is good for me and its a must have and I will be left behind if I don't have it.
I drive an old car because I know what all the noises are. I used XP and use W7 because I know where the buttons are. I will eventually learn where the buttons on W10 will be - when I choose to use it
Thank you once again for everyones comments - they are neither good nor bad but your experiences and thoughts and I thank you for those. :)
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Well, I didn't actually lose any files on the upgrade, everything stayed put. I also backed everything up too. What I really meant is that I didn't want to risk having to do another factory reset and reinstall my programs. I have more on this pc. I also do not want to spend hours going back redoing all the old updates before I get to the point that the pc is up-to-date ready for Win 10.
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Jim, tried a manual backup last night. It failed due to "hardware error." Strangely, the drive has no errors, and there is some new data on it. God only knows what is going on. I wish he would tell me!!
Further :- Unusual condition was encountered during finalization of a backup cycle for configuration.
Event log online help :- We're sorry
There is no additional information about this issue in the Error and Event Log Messages or Knowledge Base databases at this time. You can use the links in the Support area to determine whether any additional information might be available elsewhere.
Regards
Malky
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Having tweaked around with WIN 10 after an 'in-place' upgrade on WIN 7 I decided to do a 'Clean Install' via the Media Creation Tool after downloading Win10 again .....
I offered it a squeaky clean brand new Samsung SSD - which 'INStall' rejected with an error message that qualified for top Mumbo-Jumbo of the decade - summat about GPT disks and MBRs ..... back in WIN 10 I formatted the drive again ... same error ... physically moved the disk to a WIN 7 PC and formatted, clipped & wiped with my Mini-Tool Partition Wizard - back to the original PC and booted the USB drive and this time INSTALL sailed thru .....
.... but bringing up WIN 10 this time to personalize was fraught with NVidia Driver issues, and even some AMD Divers for the 6-core PC were downlevelled ...
Finally, some features that had worked OK on the original upgrade to WIN 10 were kaput - eg 'File History' said there were no available drives to use (same population of 2 SSDs and an old SATA 160Gb as before) ... also Windows Defender, aka MS Security Essentials wont show its Icon in the Tray ..... and a couple of other things ...
Something I had not ever experienced on WIN 7 ... this iteration of WIN 10 placed a folder in 'This PC' with the Admin's Username of my old WIN 7 PC (which was at that time in 'SLEEP') - curiousity demanded I click on it in File Explorer - it brought the other PC out of SLEEP !
Lots to understand still !
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I've given up!
W10 installed itself Thursday. Everything seemed OK but I couldn't get FTM2014 to work (except in pedigree mode) so I have reverted to W7.
I'll probably go back to 10 when Ancestry have fixed it.
Peter
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Jim, tried a manual backup last night.
Have you got another drive you can back up to?
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I've given up!
Ancestry recommend using Chrome or Firefox for the time being.
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I've given up!
W10 installed itself Thursday. Everything seemed OK but I couldn't get FTM2014 to work (except in pedigree mode) so I have reverted to W7.
I'll probably go back to 10 when Ancestry have fixed it.
Peter
I've got FTM2014 running without any dramas.
The only program that doesn't work (as far as I can see) on my system is Microsoft Money. This seems to require components of IE6 !!
Ancestry (on the web) is not currently supporting Microsoft Edge, which seems strange given the notice that Microsoft had given regarding the launch of Win10.
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Well after 1hr and 20minutes Windows 10 installed with no problem? Touch wood. :D
[I would imagine the problems - set backs - will manifest over the coming weeks.]
Brian
What I forgot to mention: For those who have a battery dependant machine, put your machine onto mains power (charge) because the update can take a couple of hrs or more depending on download speed!
I have trouble ..... I would have expected the my contacts list would have been imported too and it is tedious having to start all over again setting up a new list.
There must be a way ....... does anyone know?
Joe
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"Have you got another drive you can back up to?"
Yes Jim, tried that also.
Regards
Malky
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joboy - were you going from Windows 7 to Windows 10? I upgraded from 8.1 and everything, including contacts list is where it was before the upgrade. When I bought this machine it already had Windows 8, but my old machine only had Vista and I had to copy everything across but, of course, that was using 2 machines which made it easier as I just ran a cable between the two. I don't know why your contacts list hasn't apparently imported during the upgrade. Perhaps you should just do a search for it, it might be on the computer somewhere, just not where you want it to be. ::)
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I've got FTM2014 running without any dramas.
Harry
It would seem that you are one of the luckier ones.
I did a search on FTM2014 AND W10 and there's quite a lot of moaning going on.
Peter
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.... I would have expected the my contacts list would have been imported ...
It depends which contact list. If you're changing to Windows 10 Mail app from Live Mail you should be able to import your contacts, in fact they may automatically appear when you register with your hotmail account as they did on my OH's laptop.
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joboy - were you going from Windows 7 to Windows 10? I upgraded from 8.1 and everything, including contacts list is where it was before the upgrade. When I bought this machine it already had Windows 8, but my old machine only had Vista and I had to copy everything across but, of course, that was using 2 machines which made it easier as I just ran a cable between the two. I don't know why your contacts list hasn't apparently imported during the upgrade. Perhaps you should just do a search for it, it might be on the computer somewhere, just not where you want it to be. ::)
Yes I did go from 7 to 10 ....... I shall search for it as you suggest ........ getting a bit 'windy' of it now out of my comfort zone.
Joe
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Has anyone else tried to use the Smileys and the Spell Check buttons on the RootsChat Forum when using the new Internet Edge Explorer?
I have not been able to send anyone a Smiley using Windows 10, !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Muffin41
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No problem here ;D :D ;) :) 8) all working as before. Chrome
Ah just tried with Edge and you're right, it doesn't work! How odd, perhaps a message to Trystan so he can tweak it?
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Muffin,
I'm sorry, but we're unable to replicate the problem that you're having with that so I'm afraid I'm at a bit of a loss to be able to help you.
Trystan
RootsChat Support
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Using MS Edge ..... and as said the smileys won't simply insert by clicking on it. Although you can drag the relevant smiley to the message using the mouse - you simply end up with a line showing the link http://www.rootschat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/rolleyes.gif http://www.rootschat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/wink.gif
PS spell check also disabled although Edge does have one built in
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The answer's simple. Ditch Edge and use Firefox or Chrome. ;D
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Looking for ideas on a situation with the (WIN 7) Backup tool on WIN 10.
I did a clean install to a new disk after a couple of days familiarising with WIN 10 (which upgraded WIN 7 'in place' on the 'old' disk) .... since then WIN 10 insists its takes a System Image copy of both the 'new' Boot Disk, and the 'old' one ..... which is expensive in storage terms ....
Anyone know why BACKUP considers the 'old' disk to be a 'SYSTEM' disk ?
Could it be that its still got BOOT files showing (I deleted the option to boot it from System Config on the 'new' disk)
Any pointers appreciated ....
Also while we are talking backups, the WIN 10 File Backup feature insists that there are no candidate drives it can use - theres 3 in total, all with plenty of free space ... odd ...
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The answer's simple. Ditch Edge and use Firefox or Chrome. ;D
I'm twisted enough to try and solve any puzzles thrown down
P.S. Firefox is my standard browser .... if you're using it make sure you are on the latest version (39.0.3) due to new security flaw.
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My main pc (Win7) told me it had one optional update... not Win 10. Clicked ok and hey presto Win 10 started to install. I selected "no wait till 12th" (it only given 3 dates to chose from ) and yes it totally ignored my request and carried on with the install!
So now, we are totally Win 10.. unsure it that is a good thing or not. Well still have a netbook on Win7 and and old XP machine plus mac etc...
Files are all intact. Photoshop is still here :D
So now to update Roots Magic 4, I have old trees I want to keep on there. RM 7 for a one name study. And download the card games from the store that were removed.
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If you want some different background themes, MS have loads to chose from
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/themes?ocid=w8_client_themes
right click on the background, select personalise. Select themes in the left hand panel
then select Theme settings
under the title "My Themes"
click on Get more themes online... it will take you to the above link. Just view and download which ones you like and think you can live with. Then view the download it will show in My Themes. Click on the one you want to use to highlight then close out.
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Updated yesterday from Win7 to 10. All went smoothly except for a minor problem with sound. This was sorted by downloading latest drivers from Creative. No problems with any of my software so far (Photoshop, office 2000 .) I use Opera as main browser. But my sleep function has disappeared! The option from the start button only allows me to select screen sleep.
My OH also upgraded (last week) but his system shows an option to set for PC sleep. We have been going round in circles but can't find a solution. Upgraded video card drivers and other suggestions from user forums but haven't got anywhere yet!
It isn't a big problem but is quite annoying. Anyone got any ideas?
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Had the same missing 'SLEEP' option - found something in my BIOS settings that sounded hopeful, (sorry, cant remember now, but I think I set a switch to WIN 8 rather than 'Other OS') - however would depend on your own PCs BIOS - but also installed new NVidia Drivers, so not sure what fixed it !
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I still have no sound on win 10 but looked for drivers , will try again though. Also I've found since bmsgh cd's with Staffordshire monumental inscriptions gives me a list of the churches but does n't open individual churches! So I will need to look at that as well.
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Sadly, all the indications are that MS Edge and Mail are still beta versions >:(
They'll probably be as good as IE and Live Mail when they are finished . . . ;D ;D ;D :'( :'( :'(
Luckily I rarely use MS 'Apps', or programs as we used to call them, preferring the more useful open source alternatives
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Tip...
Win 10 allows you to access the startup menu from the Task manager. No more msconfig to view startup.
Click on the startup tab to see what progams/apps start when you boot the pc.
I had one just called progam ::) ::) right clicking, the properties was greyed out.
To find out what a program is right click on any of the column headings and select command line. Those of you who are familiar with the old style startup list will recognise the this as the path to the program location. You can then decide whether its safe to disable it or leave it running.
In my case... the "program" was windows sidebar!?! why? as far as I knew Windows sidebar had been retired and no longer needed in Win 10. Its now disabled and MS informed.
Jenny
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For those of you who have "lost" the sleep option after upgrading to Win 10
Please check through the power options as described in this MS community article
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01fta/
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yes that was the first thing I did! Unfortunately the sleep option doesn't appear on this page either!
I am now convinced it is because my graphics card is over 4 years old and the appropriate drivers aren't available, so I am reconciled to having to remember to log off. I suppose it is good practice anyway.
Thanks for advice anyway.
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Bottom toolbar, left of date and "Eng", click on square, click on "all settings" scroll down to "power & sleep", click on, then click on "additional power settings" then click on "change plan settings".
Regards
Malky
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Ruth - If you do right click on Microsoft logo left hand side of taskbar, click on Power Options, then click on "Change Power Settings that are currently unavailable", you should get 4 more options. If you click them all, then when you right click to shut down the computer, you should get the option "Shut down or sign out", click on that and you'll find Sign Out, Sleep, Hibernate, Shutdown and Restart. At least that's what I've now got.
Lizzie
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Oh dear ... spent a couple of days personalizing and investigating wrinkles - one being why it wants to take a System Image of -2- drives in my WIN 10 PC .... and earlier, after some minor feature settings and an attempted re-boot - it wouldnt ! Total vegetable !
Checked both SSDs from the WIN 10 box back on my old WIN7 & the Boot Disk had MFT errors ... sigh, why now - I hadnt yet backed it up ...... cos of the afore mentioned anomaly !
Gets worse , decided to reinstall and it wouldnt accept either of the SSDs .... of course I had 'repaired' them, so no longer had a WIN 10 disk in the PC, so the INSTALL realises and refuses to provide a free upgrade to effectively a virgin PC - but why not give a sensible error message instead of summat about MBRs and GPT disks ...
Just finished the saga of installing VISTA, then the WIN 7 upgrade to it .... downloading WIN 7 updates to make it a candidate for WIN 10 upgrade - and now failing to activate it with the original Product Key / Code ...
Sigh ......
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Not sure if this is much help, or even if I've understood it properly, but I believe that once you have had Win 10 running on a device the device will be registered with M/S and will not need an activation code if you re-install Win 10.
If there is any way you can download the ISO to burn a DVD, maybe you can install from that?
Best of luck with whatever you try next.
Mike.
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Not sure if this is much help, or even if I've understood it properly, but I believe that once you have had Win 10 running on a device the device will be registered with M/S and will not need an activation code if you re-install Win 10.
If there is any way you can download the ISO to burn a DVD, maybe you can install from that?
Best of luck with whatever you try next.
Mike.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=728030.msg5726094#msg5726094
The W10 download tool is also the tool which will create an ISO or DVD for you (or create a bootable memory stick) - the choices you get are update this PC which starts the W10 process immediately or create (take your choice from the menu) for another PC. Handy if you want to do a clean install at some time
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you can only use the created Install media to do a 'clean install' AFTER you have done the 'Free Upgrade' ... ie your WIN 10 has been activated ... the Media can then check you're good to go ...
Well, I'm back to where I was 24 hours ago ... and this time WIN 10 has decided that my old SATA drive with a few Pics and Docs on it is also part of System Image creation !
There must be something on it that WIN thinks constitutes a SYSTEM component .... but quite what I have no idea !
Hopefully they will release a new BACKUP facilty to replace this archaic WIN 7 feature they've migrated in !
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Thanks Lizzie and Malky tried both those options first! My OH has them showing the sleep option and didn't believe me when I couldn't find them! The options to sleep simply doesn't appear on any of the power settings screens . I can set to hibernate but thats really for laptops. Still thanks anyway.
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Did you check BIOS settings I mentioned ?
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I'm not that confident with BIOS settings but the OH went through all that after your helpful hint. Unfortunately it didn't work! Advice from his computer nerd friends ;) is that it is down to the ancient graphics card. (Apparently its vintage although only about 5 years old!)
I guess I'll have to put up with until OH decides to upgrade his ,then i can inherit his used card!!
I could always revert to Win 7, but I quite like 10 now I've got used to it
Ruth
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Yes, it could well be the GFX card .... I think SLEEP appeared on my WINX after a BIOS tweak AND an NVidia Card driver update .... suspect prob the latter did it.
Well, I've got WINX looking pretty much like WIN7 now (apart from the differences in things like Windows Update & Security Essentials and the location of some of the Settings) .... makes me wonder why I bothered if I'm not going to exploit Apps (CORTANA et al) - LOL.
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Well, I've got WINX looking pretty much like WIN7 now
Same here, and I already had Win7 looking pretty much like XP ;D
We must hope that at least the underlying operating system is more up to date and secure . . . possibly :-\
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Has anyone had the latest Windows 10 monthly updates, my Intel powered Toshiba laptop came to an abrupt stop.
Hate to think how slow a machine will go when Microsoft decide to release more, or are updates to be dribble fed to us?
Brian
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Mine updated yesterday with no bother.
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I've had loads of updates for Windows 10 since I upgraded, plus updates for Word, Windows Defender etc.
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OK, after saying my OH had upgraded from 7 to 10 without any problems, he's now got problems after his PC went to sleep.
Problem solved, somehow he'd got his PC set to Tablet mode. I've left the problem he had below in case it happens to anyone else. If you go to Settings, System, Tablet mode, it needs to be turned off for PCs, there are also 2 other options, When I sign in, choose Remember what I used last, or Go to Desktop, his must have been set for Automatically switch to tablet mode, and the second option is When this device switches tablet mode on or off, there are 2 options. He's now chosen "Don't ask me and don't switch".
1. He's lost all the icons that were on the desk top. In fact the only thing on his desk top are some of the app icons, that should only be available if he right clicks on the Windows icon.
2. Whenever he opens Mozilla, or his e-mail provider everything covers the page. The box in the top right hand corner doesn't work, neither does clicking on the edges and making the page the size he wants, in fact he can't even do that. What happens if he clicks on the side is that everything just moves to one side of the screen.
He says he's not touched anything, so what has happened? He has just rebooted to see if that had any effect - it didn't.
Modified - What seems to have happened is when he clicked on the Windows Icon the page that comes up, showing apps etc. has stuck. He can't get out of that and even when he tries to open Firefox or other programmes they fill the screen. The odd thing is that I tried it with my laptop and as soon as I opened Firefox, I got my desktop screen back and Firefox opened at the size I like it.
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It pays to check the settings often; some of the updates may reset them for you >:(
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Well, after faffing for 26 hours, I managed to backup the PC. Now, W10 recognised the external hard drive, then it doesn't, then it does, then it doesn't, then it does, etc etc. We had less faffin with Windows 95, and I had 3 birthdays during that "faffin" time.
Regards
Malky, who cannot go into reverse at this time. (Can't back up) ;D ;D ;D
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has anyone had a trouble free update to Win 10??
I.e pressed the "Go" button and had all their old thing working without having to spend hours/ days/ rest of their natural life tweaking this, reinstalling that, buying new compatible software, replacing peripherals because drivers no longer work etc etc etc
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I've had loads of updates since I upgraded to Windows 10, not had any problems with any of them.
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has anyone had a trouble free update to Win 10??
I have updated a 5 year old win 7 laptop and a Win 8.1 desktop and everything was working as before including third party internet security, wifi printer, scanner, external harddrives (which were unplugged during update) and all my software. All updates since appear to have installed without me noticing.
During the installation I did not select the rather prominent "Default installation" settings button, but selected the barely readable tiny font "customise settings" selection tucked away on the opposite side of the screen at the bottom.
All I've really had to do is customise the start menu ie deleting all the superfluous live apps, and reduced the search box on the taskbar to a small button.
Simon
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Having trawled through the Win 10 complaints, it seems that it "W10" has a problem with USB3 connections. It seems from reading posts from others, with USB3 boards and ext' hard drives, they also are having problems.
How long has USB3 been on the go?? I think that someone should tell Microsoft about them.
Regards
Malky
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and reduced the search box on the taskbar to a small button.
Simon, how did you do that. I have a large box on the taskbar with the words "Search the web and Windows", yet on my husband's PC (he upgraded from 7 to 10 yesterday), he just has a search icon.
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This is a BT site to go to once you've got Windows 10 installed. It is a list of 10 things to do after you upgrade your computer to Windows 10, with instructions how to carry them out.
www.rootschat.com/links/01fwm/
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and reduced the search box on the taskbar to a small button.
Simon, how did you do that. I have a large box on the taskbar with the words "Search the web and Windows", yet on my husband's PC (he upgraded from 7 to 10 yesterday), he just has a search icon.
Right click on a clear area of the task bar
Move mouse to Search and three options come up
1. Hidden
2. Show search Icon
3. Show search box
select your preference
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Falkryn - that's great, now reduced to a magnifying glass. The only problem is all the other icons have moved across to fill the space. Doesn't really matter, I'll just move them around so that the ones I use the most are in the centre of the task bar.
Lizzie
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Bedtime reading ..... :P
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/insider/wiki/insider_wintp-insider_install/frequently-asked-questions-windows-10/5c0b9368-a9e8-4238-b1e4-45f4b7ed2fb9
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This is a BT site to go to once you've got Windows 10 installed. It is a list of 10 things to do after you upgrade your computer to Windows 10, with instructions how to carry them out.
www.rootschat.com/links/01fwm/
Read the comments - oh dear !
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Lostris - I think many comments can be taken with a pinch of salt. ;D
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Lostris - I think many comments can be taken with a pinch of salt. ;D
that much salt is bad for you ;)
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yes, theres a few tongue in cheek, but the overall vibes dont paint a good picture of WIN 10 !
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Lostris - I can't understand how so many people can be having such extreme problems. I know people on here have had a few problems, but nothing like the ones on that site and others. Also I know lots of people who've upgraded without any problems. My daughter and a couple of sons have upgraded from 7, as has my husband, I upgraded from 8.1 without any problems. We can't all just have been lucky.
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it may be to do with competance to some extent ...... dunno ... I had a time-consuming issue after doing a Clean install, trying to find out why my data disk was included as a System Drive .... made a mistake trying to fix it and then had to go right back to VISTA to be able to reinstall WIN7, get it up to SP1+ and then finally back to WIN 10 ... it didnt do a good job with video (NVidia) drivers and still has quirks ...
Theres a few on here with bigger problems ...
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"There's a few on here with bigger problems"
What is annoying me, is that the more you dig into the found problems, the more you find that most of these were known, some well before the launch date. So why are they still affecting the operating system to the detrimental affect on the user. Has Microsoft over complicated this version of Windows?
Regards
Malky
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I wonder if certain makes of PCs and laptops are having more problems than others? For instance, from what I've seen on line, owners of Toshiba PCs seem to be having problems. My husband and I both have Lenovo, me a laptop, him a PC. Everything is working, even though Lenovo hasn't, according to one site I saw, upgraded certain of its features to work with Windows 10. ???
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I wonder if certain makes of PCs and laptops are having more problems than others? For instance, from what I've seen on line, owners of Toshiba PCs seem to be having problems. My husband and I both have Lenovo, me a laptop, him a PC. Everything is working, even though Lenovo hasn't, according to one site I saw, upgraded certain of its features to work with Windows 10. ???
Good point - mine is a Sony Vaio and I've not had many problems.
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Its less likely to be down to makes of PC and more likely connected to the types of hardware used by the individual PC manufactuers, may of which are likely to have been used across more than one model and make, and to the software installed. This will have been one of the reasons that Microsoft setup the facility to have your PC checked via the reservation feature as it would then check for any issues and advise in advance of any potential problems that may mean you needed to delay the upgrade. In spite of Microsoft having been using the Insider Program for some months to test the product, there are still a number of software manufactuers who haven't upgraded their programs yet and obviously the older the version of the software and/or hardware driver, the more chance there could be an issue. Doesn't mean all older software could potentially be a problem, just that its more of a possibility. This has, of course, happened in the past but then there wasn't a free update available to so many people. :-X I know from reading this thread that a number of RCers have upgraded via the download and not the reservation facility without any issues, but with such a variety of software and hardware available across all the PCs illegible for the upgrade, it's not really surprising there have been issues.
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Thanks for the explanation Smudwhisk, so in a way if it's down to the types of hardware used by individual PC manufacturers, then it's still more likely that PCs from certain manufacturers will have more problems than others.
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Thanks for the explanation Smudwhisk, so in a way if it's down to the types of hardware used by individual PC manufacturers, then it's still more likely that PCs from certain manufacturers will have more problems than others.
Not necessarily, many of the parts are made by non-PC manufactuers who also sell them as parts to the public and not just to manufacturers. I've just replaced the harddrive in my HP laptop, it was a Toshiba drive and had been playing up for some time. My previous HP laptop originally had a Samsung drive. I replaced them with either a Western Digital or Seagate drive, neither of which manufactuers PCs, just the parts. So its probably the luck of the draw as to what part has been used in which PC at any one time by any manufactuer. As they are all known for releasing new models fairly often, it doesn't mean they will necessarily use a part by the same manufactuer in each model.
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My laptop (win 7), which I ugraded to Win 10 first was disasterous requiring a factory reset then starting again. Second time round Win 10 behaved and installed and behaved correctly.
My main pc (win 7) decided to download and install Win 10 all by itself even though I had windows updates registered as notify and allow me to install when I chose. Thankfully, I had already done a backup earlier that morning. Download, install were a dream and all working fine.
Both pc and laptop are Acer, I noticed that the laptop has had several updates since install before my pc upgraded itself. The pc arrived with the search box reduced to an icon. Any bugs I have found a problem with, I have sent detailed feedback to MS. Although after the initial install problem with the laptop, everything else has been acceptable. But I must admit, some of the bugs found have been known about by MS for months!!!
Strange thing is, my pc has more software and additional hardware which I would have thought could have caused more problems than the laptop.
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I left my PC upgrading overnight and was amazed to find everything working fine this morning and looking much as it did before. I had been using Stardock Start8 to make Win 8.1 emulate Win 7, and that still largely works with Win 10 but I have now upgraded that to Start10 ($3.99 for the upgrade, or $4.99 for a new install) and that works perfectly.
The upgrade had made Edge the default search engine and I've had to switch that back to Chrome. Otherwise this has been a very smooth transition.
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My brother has a Lenovo laptop and he has tried to upgrade to win 10 after he had the invitation but that won't upgrade at the moment so smudwhisk you are right.
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Try doing what I did with a tablet. Do a manual Windows Update even though you may have automatic updates selected. After I did this and brought the tablet up to date, I went back to the Windows notification where I found it was ready to download and upgrade.
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My brother has a Lenovo laptop and he has tried to upgrade to win 10 after he had the invitation but that won't upgrade at the moment so smudwhisk you are right.
I have a Lenovo laptop and upgraded without an invitation, from a link given on Rootschat, my OH has a Lenovo PC and he upgraded on Thursday from an invitation. Neither of us had any problems.
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My brother has a Lenovo laptop and he has tried to upgrade to win 10 after he had the invitation but that won't upgrade at the moment so smudwhisk you are right.
I have a Lenovo laptop and upgraded without an invitation, from a link given on Rootschat, my OH has a Lenovo PC and he upgraded on Thursday from an invitation. Neither of us had any problems.
As I said, it will be dependent on what hardware has been used by the manufactuer in the specific model(s) and/or what software you have installed. I'm not saying you shouldn't install from the link that was posted on here, but you could run the risk of issues arising post-installation which Microsofts own compatibility report facility through the reservation patch would probably have highlighted. That's why they've gone about doing this, more so than to reduce the number of people trying to upgrade a soon as it was released. If they wanted to do the latter, they wouldn't have provided the facility to just download the software. ;)
I have a 15 year old HP Netbook which originally had XP installed, but now has Win7 as I rebuilt it last year having purchased an OEM copy. I wanted to see if the reservation facility would confirm if the processor was compatible with Win10 because I'd read on several forums that if a processor didn't have certain inbuilt features, it wouldn't be compatible and my netbooks' processor doesn't have these. So I managed to get the reservation patch installed and eventually it has come back and said it can be upgraded. I had read on some forums that people had been using netbooks with the specific Intel Atom processor installed without any issues but wanted to see if microsoft would confirm this. I haven't yet upgraded, I wanted to wait until a few more of the issues that have been recently flagged up are ironed out. I'm not intending upgrading my main laptop which is only 2.5 years old for some time, just to be sure. Hardware isn't likely to be an issue, but software could be and I have at least one piece of software which won't be compatible and the manufactuer hasn't issued a version that works with Win10 yet.
So, as I said previously, its very much the luck of the draw if you upgrade through the link you might have issues and sometimes its better to error on the side of caution and use the reservation facility and its compatibility checking report.
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My OH upgraded his HP desktop from Win 7 to 10 over the weekend. So far the only problem seemed to be with printer and scanner. We have a colour printer, a monochrome printer and a scanner all attached to his PC. I normally print from my laptop wirelessly through our home network as long as his PC was switched on, but after the upgrade, I couldn't even see the printer and scanner, although I could see the shared drive on his PC and access them. After a while we realised that somehow the properties had defaulted back to not shared. This small problem took two reasonably intelligent people a couple of hours to fathom out. Heaven help us if there had been anything more difficult / disastrous.
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Yeah, the upgrade to 10 changed all my networking settings. Not a big issue but has made it harder to link my laptop to the PC securely. I still haven't bothered to try to understand all the settings yet but MS won't seem to allow me to set up a workgroup as my son's PC has already set one up without his knowledge ::) which I have no desire to join :-\
Maybe one day I'll find the time to try to understand it.
Mike.
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Not sure if anyone else has the same annoying problem.
I had loads of links saved to my Internet Explorer favorites folder. I did make a back up of the favorites folder before the Win 10 upgrade but Edge didn't import from the original Internet Explorer favorites folder.
Trying to import to Chrome, only looked at the new Edge favorites folder ::)
Link to a solution, importing the old links to Edge:
Warning the last part of the manual import includes going into the registry. This is NOT for the faint hearted or inexperienced computer user. I would not normally recommend anyone going into the registry and making changes but this did work. Do not make any changes to the registry other than that listed in the link below. Careless/inquisitive tinkering with the registry could KILL your pc.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01fxi/
Jenny
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I dug out my old netbook (a Samsung N220 Plus) which operates on the pared-back bare-bones "Windows 7 Starter Edition" to see if that would be eligible for the free upgrade to Windows 10. After fixing a corrupted file error which had been preventing Windows 7 from updating for years, and then downloading and installing something like 150 updates over a period of two days, the Windows 10 update icon finally appeared. Hooray. I'm now awaiting the download. It'll be interesting to see if/how it runs on the netbook.
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I have to admit, I thought that most netbooks didn't have enough ram? Win 10 requires 2gb, which is why I haven't done our old netbooks.
might just try doing all the updates to see what happens ;D
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I upgraded the netbook RAM just after I bought it so that should be Ok
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Hello,
I have just updated my Aspire E 15 laptop bought last Christmas with 8.1 to Windows 10 and I haven't seen any problems yet. I did have a little worry when the screen started jumping about but then I saw it was running a few last tweeks. I also had to turn off and on again for everything to (appear to) work properly. And my favourites were found without any problem.
I'm off to England on Thursday for my great-niece's wedding so I shall learn the new system slowly.
Anyway, thanks to everyone who posted on this thread, helping me to decide to take the plunge now instead of waiting a while for teething problems to be ironed out.
cheers, falcybe
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Thanks Shuan, nice to know it can be done if extra ram is added.
As our netbooks get little workout these days, I think they will stay in retirement.
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I got the Win10 invite on my notebook PC but I'm in no hurry.
I'm still thinking wistfully of Win XP after running Win 8.1 for a year, still hate Win 8.1
Anyone know the cut-off date for installing the free Win10?
Gen in NBL England
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Thanks
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Another new one. I set the PC to "Sleep" mode last night. This morning, it had came out of sleep mode itself. I tried to connect to the internet, (Firefox) and the only web page I can get is RootsChat. The fonts are larger, but I can access the pages. I can get nothing else, even trying Chrome. Internet Explorer is stating, "DNS service isn't responding".
I really am loving Windows 10, NOT!!!!!!
Regards
Malky
Update, Microsoft download update, internet started working again, then automatic protection shutdown. It started up again and seemed to be running something continusously for about 30 minutes, stuf still running in the background, but am able to access the net.
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I upgraded the netbook RAM just after I bought it so that should be Ok
My OH has a netbook running XP, can he upgrade it to a newer version of Windows by adding extra RAM?
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LizzieL:
To upgrade to Windows 10 from anything prior to Windows 7 will cost too much.
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-specifications#sysreqs
[Most old systems didn't have the ability to use more resources]
My old XP machine had graphics card/motherboard and soundcard not compatible.
Need a machine that runs Windows 7 at least for it to be a free upgrade.
Brian
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WIN 10 'File History' feature.
Wont enable on my PC ... its selected a Drive, but on clicking enable nothing happens !
Anyone got it running ?
I saw it running when I 1st upgraded, but since doing a 'clean install' of WINX, it steadfasly refuses ....
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Anyone know the cut-off date for installing the free Win10?
Unless anything has changed recently, I think you have 12 months from launch date :)
Malky,
I'm sure you'll have tried it, but for anyone else having odd problems, don't forget the old "turn it off and on again" advice. It has rectified several apparent problems on my system.
Mike.
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My wife has a HP Photosmart 6520 printer which wouldn't scan documents after installing Win10.
We were able to get it scanning again after installing a update from HP, which involved also installing and using a diagnostic program.
For me Win10 has fixed a graphic problem I had with a game made to work with XP, Vista and Win 7 which I was playing on Win8. Kings Bounty
No major problems so far on my computer.
Mick
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So far (on our PCs) we have had to update the driver for a Xerox scanner and also install a newer version of VMware Player which we use to run Windows XP in a virtual machine environment ( we have a much loved set of games which will only run on the original pre-service packs version of XP). Our Brother printer works fine with Win10.
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On the plus side! ;D ;D ;D
Win 10 appears to have cured a problem which I had when trying to close down Custodian on my Win 7 pc. Custodian used to give me all sorts of errors on closing, nothing amiss with the data entered but the program always had a hissy fit and went around in circles, saving then asking to backup then asking to save etc., before finally asking me if I really did want to close Custodian. If I left Custodian up and running over a few days, it then gave even more errors. ::)
I use Custodian to collect data for a one name study (as do others who are doing a one name study).... a bit clunky, not very flexible, and in serious need of updating but its easy entry for the purpose I use it for.
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My Samsung N220 Plus netbook has now been upgraded and instead of the feeble Windows 7 Starter OS it now has Windows 10 Home! I've added Stardock Start10 so it looks very like Windows 7 but much slicker. Things are still updating and settling down but this 5 year old low-spec machine seems to be quite rejuvenated in speed and display. Really pleased. What an upgrade.
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I have not read all the posts, so hope that I am not repeating something that has already been covered :-\
Is anyone else having a problem with rotating photos ??? No matter what I do to try and post a portrait photo standing upright, they always post lying down!!!!!! This problem has only occurred since I downloaded windows 10!!!!
Hope someone can help me, please!
snaptoo
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New topic opened for Windows 10 started, to discover if we are now a happy lot now that we are running the latest operating system from Microsoft!
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=729427.new#new