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Way back on the 7th September 1892 a young girl aged 11 called Edith H Leckie fell from the cliff top in Lulworth Cove, Dorset some 380 feet and survived the fall with terrible injuries. Thankfully living close by was a most notable surgeon of his day Sir Treves who administered assistance to the young girl who has survived he felt because her clothing would have caught the ragged rocks on her way down lessening the impact of the fall.
Her mother was an Australian called Elizabeth and her father was from Ireland and was Squire T.S Leckie. They lived at the time at 1 Morningside Road, Bootle, Lancashire. I believe that the Squire was also an author and that Sir treves was actually reading one of his books when the girl fell.
Does anyone know what became of Edith in her later years? I would be most interested in knowing what happened to her.
Thank you in anticipation.
Graham
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She was living with her grandmother in the 1901 Census in Wavertree, Liverpool. I can't find her after that.
There are several articles on Google, on the Doctor who saved her, which include a mention of her accident.
Emeltom
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Edythe Hope Lecky 29 , father Squire Thornton Stratford Lecky
married Joseph Brooke Harte 37, Clerk in Holy Orders , 15 July 1910 All Saints , Clapton Park
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Edith H Brooke-Harte died Sep 1942 Exmoor 5c 247
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Thank you for that, most interesting. So she died at the age of 61, did she outlive her husband who presumably became a vicar or curate perhaps and had a parish in Devon. Will also have to try and find out what book of her father the Dr was reading at the time of the accident. Need to place some meat on the bones as they say. Did they have children. Quite a few questions still to answer about this lucky girl.
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did she outlive her husband
Have you checked freebmd for his death?
Did they have children.
Freebmd shows mothers maiden name on birth entries from September qtr 1911
Edith left a will which answers some of your questions
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk
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Hi,
did she outlive her husband
Yes she did.
From FreeBMD:
Brooke-Harte, Joseph; Age 66; September Qtr 1937; Exeter Registration District; Volume 5b Page 74.
Hope this helps.
Kind regards
David
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Brilliant, so she died in a hotel near Exeter and left her money to two people, a woman and an officer in the army. I wonder if they were her offsprings. Also she outlived her husband, fascinating. I am always amazed how much you kind people can find out so readily. So it seems that despite her accident as a young girl she went on to have a good life. Did the Capt survive the war I wonder? One thing leads to another as they say.
Thank you again for your information and assistance, very much appreciated.
Graham
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Brilliant, so she died in a hotel near Exeter and left her money to two people, a woman and an officer in the army. I wonder if they were her offsprings.
The people mentioned on the probate index would be the executors of her will, not necessarily the benefactors
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well I didn't expect that
Squire Thornton Lecky was a Seaman
Baptism: 3 Apr 1881 St Mary, Walton on the Hill, Lancashire, England
Edith Hope Lecky - [Child] of Squire Thornton Stratford Lecky & Elizabeth Susan
Abode: Bootle
Occupation: Master Mariner
Baptised by: Thomas Hornby, Vicar
Register: Baptisms 1866 - 1883, Page 240, Entry 1915
Source: LDS Film 1647560
spelt Lecky at birth
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Surprised as well, have just always presumed that Squire's were 'Landlubbers' and a bit like well off Yeoman. Presumably she had no siblings and her father must have come over from Ireland to Lancashire where he met her mother. His book/books must have been about the sea or sailing one again presumes. Thanks for the info, really finding the little girls life quite interesting.
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Reverend Joseph of Ashreigney Rectory died in died in Royal Devon & Exeter Hospital leaving a will (administration only) to Edith Hope Brooke-Harte widow
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Births Sep 1911 (>99%)
HARTE Mary K B Lacky Shoreditch 1c 98
Births Jun 1914 (>99%)
HARTE Clement F J B Lecky Wisbech 3b 1015
Births Dec 1923 (>99%)
HARTE Charles A B B Lecky Torrington 5b 625
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Marriages Mar 1863 (>99%)
Coles George W. Derby 8b 536
Hilton Margaret W. Derby 8b 536
LECKY Squire Thornton Shalford W Derby 8b 536 Postem available - click to view
Lecky Squire Thornton Stratford W Derby 8b 536
Lloyd Mary W. Derby 8b 536
postem
Elected to the Royal Astronomical Society in March 1881, which printed his name as "Squire Thornton Stratford Lecky, Esq., 1, Morningside Road, Bootle, Liverpool" (Monthly Notices RAS, vol. 41, no. 5, p. 253. Squire appears to be a name, not a title.
Squire was often used as a forename
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Marriage: 26 Feb 1863 St George, Everton, Lancashire, England
Squire Thornton Stratford Lecky - full, Master Mariner, Bachelor, 15 Wentworth St
Mary Lloyd - full, Widow, 15 Wentworth St
Groom's Father: Holland Lecky, Gentleman
Bride's Father: Roger Dutton, Brewer
Witness: Robert Wilson; E. G. Ayers
and
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1878
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
LECKY Squire T S HENDERSON Elizabeth S Walton, St. Mary Liverpool 2012WD/10/254
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About Thornton Stratford Lecky :
http://www.newulsterbiography.co.uk/index.php/home/printPerson/838
born in Downpatrick in 1838
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Edith also had 2 half brothers
Baptism: 6 Dec 1863 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Charles Beresford Lecky - [Child] of Squire Thornton Stratford Lecky & Mary
Born: 14 Sep 1863
Abode: Everton
Occupation: Master Mariner
Baptised by: W. R. Duncan Curate
Register: Baptisms 1863, Page 354, Entry 2826
Source: LDS Film 93891
Baptism: 8 Mar 1867 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Arthur Goulstone Lecky - [Child] of Squire Thornton Stratford Lecky & Mary
Born: 28 Jul 1865
Abode: Everton
Occupation: Master Mariner
Baptised by: C. R. Hyde Curate
Register: Baptisms 1867, Page 81, Entry 645
Source: LDS Film 1656564
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Just overwhelmed at the amount of information that you have been able to obtain for me in such a small time. Outstanding to say the least. Thank you all very much. Can I just confirm that Mary & Clement were Squire Lecky's grandchildren!
Thanks again
Graham
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They certainly appear to be as the mmn is correct and I assume the intial B in the registration in each case will stand for Brooke
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Thanks for that, all information much appreciated.
Thank you.
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Can anyone tell me when Mary Lloyd Squires first wife died, presuming that she did and was not divorced!
Thank you
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Son Arthur died in 1870 but I can’t find a death for Mary
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I can’t find any of them in 1871. I wonder if they were out of the country and Mary died while away.
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Oh! That has thrown me, had not realised that they went out of the country, of that Arthur had died only aged 15, wonder now how he died.
Thanks for that though, much appreciated.
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Arthur born 1865 so only 5 years old
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This is interesting - I can’t see that you have this yet
Marriage
24th September 1856 St Anne Liverpool
Mary Dutton 28yrs. Father: Roger Dutton, Brewer
Robert Lloyd 30 yrs Master Mariner
Witnesses: Squire T J Lecky (doesn’t look like ‘S’ but could well be) and Anne Lloyd
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This is interesting - I can’t see that you have this yet
Marriage
24th September 1856 St Anne Liverpool
Mary Dutton 28yrs. Father: Roger Dutton, Brewer
Robert Lloyd 30 yrs Master Mariner
Witnesses: Squire T J Lecky (doesn’t look like ‘S’ but could well be) and Anne Lloyd
to complete that info
Robert's father William Lloyd master mariner
Robert of 14 Chester Street
Mary of 22 Great Oxford SAtreet
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Thanks for that lancsann.
I was posting it more because of Squire’s involvement as witness and then marrying the widow.
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just posted for info really I found a death for a Robert a mariner but the father was wrong
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It’s difficult isn’t it. As has been said, perhaps all away 1871 and Mary died then.
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So witness ends up marrying widow! Sailors!! Just wonder when Mary died and where. Thanks for the info though, that was interesting.
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just posted for info really I found a death for a Robert a mariner but the father was wrong
Robert apparently died 1902 in Las Palmas, Canaries according to various sites.
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http://www.dippam.ac.uk/ied/records/36702
From this
At this period his home was at Portneen, Portrush, when
in 1878 his only son, the late Captain Halton Sterling Lecky,
C.B. R.N., was born.
Halton’s birth
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1879/02935/2075272.pdf
Of course he had the boys with Mary Lloyd and the two marriages are mentioned in various searches.
The family might have been in Ireland in 1871 but still can’t see a death for Mary and Charles B could be in school.
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Cannot win them all, so shall just leave the date of his first wifes death blank. I think that it is obvious that she did die, hence why he married again.
Thank you all very much indeed for all your information and assistance its been brilliant and I can now write a small article for the Society of Dorset Men year book. If they use it however is another matter.
Where and how did Robert Lloyd die, anybody know! A master mariner so maybe at sea of a foreign port perhaps!
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just posted for info really I found a death for a Robert a mariner but the father was wrong
Robert apparently died 1902 in Las Palmas, Canaries according to various sites.
Heywood - interesting that article you provide a link to say Squire Lecky died in Las Palmos in 1902
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Hi lancsann,
Did I misunderstand your post re a death for Robert? Did you mean Robert Lloyd?
I was thinking you meant Squire ::) I should read it more closely.
Heywood
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"just posted for info really I found a death for a Robert a mariner but the father was wrong"
I meant Robert Lloyd on that one.
I was curious about your post saying Robert died in Las Palmos in 1902
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Hi,
There is an entry in the England and Wales Civil Divorce Records 1858-1916, with the husbands petition (Squire Thornton Stratford Lecky) for divorce against Mary Lecky and co-respondent
Thomas Armstrong Slack on the basis of Adultery.
Petition filed 26 June 1874; Decree Nisi 26 May 1875; Final Decree 14 December 1875. More details show the children's dates of birth - Charles Beresford Lecky born 14 Sept 1863; Arthur Goulstone Lecky born 28 July 1865, died 11 Sept 1870.
Adultery said to have taken place whilst the husband was at sea between Nov 1872 to Nov 1873 and also between Nov 1873 and March 1874.
Alan
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Wow what a find
That answers a few questions
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Hi,
I am unsure whether this is the right Mary Lecky but a death in Liverpool age 50 in 1882 - Mar Qtr Reference Vol 8b Page 117.
The son Charles Beresford Lecky is in a Naval College in Devon in the 1881 census.
Alan
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Hi,
There is an entry in the England and Wales Civil Divorce Records 1858-1916, with the husbands petition (Squire Thornton Stratford Lecky) for divorce against Mary Lecky and co-respondent
Thomas Armstrong Slack on the basis of Adultery.
Petition filed 26 June 1874; Decree Nisi 26 May 1875; Final Decree 14 December 1875. More details show the children's dates of birth - Charles Beresford Lecky born 14 Sept 1863; Arthur Goulstone Lecky born 28 July 1865, died 11 Sept 1870.
Adultery said to have taken place whilst the husband was at sea between Nov 1872 to Nov 1873 and also between Nov 1873 and March 1874.
Alan
Well, fancy that :o
If I have the right Mr Slack he is married to Elizabeth in 1871 and 1881
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Thomas Armstrong Drought Slack married Elizabeth Lucas in 1860
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Well I go to the foot of my stairs! A divorce which I felt was so unlikely and presumed that Mary nee Lloyd had died. Hence why Squire married again. No intetest in Slack and his marriage to an Elizabeth as it is not relevant.
Fascinating, well found and thankyou.
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Yes of course no interest but,and perhaps why should it be, the divorce is not mentioned in the biographies.
I mentioned Mr S because I thought we might find Mary with him and son Charles but he was with his wife and family.
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So it was a married man that she was .... with, whilst poor old Squire was at sea charting the Oceans. Do you know what occupation Slack had? I really am fascinated with all this however, considering that it all started with a little girl falling off the cliff at Lulworth Cove. WhichBiography are you referring to by the way.
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Accounts rather than biographies - you will have seen them by searching,
E.g. ‘he married twice ...’
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Right understand what you mean. For a minute though thought that you may have read a biography as Squire did write books and was a member of the astronomical society. I bet Slack wasn't a mariner! All most fascinating though and I will have to amend my article accordingly.
Thanks
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1871 Thomas Slack was a Dock Engineer Secretary and 1881 a Commercial Clerk.
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Thanks .... I do believe that I have run this thread to ground now and wish to thank all for their information, time and assistance.
Thank you, most sincerely
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Hi,
Just to complete the picture regarding Edith's half brother - Charles Beresford Lecky -
He married in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada on 30 December 1891 to Lottie Lowell Greenwood Lyle - he was 28 she was 20.
He died in Havant, Hampshire 15 Oct 1914 and she died there on 9 Feb 1936.
Hope this helps
Alan
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Thanks for that Alan, what anout Edith's children? Did the Captain for instance survive the war? I hasten to add that I have finished my article though, updated of course adding the divorce. Well it spiced it up a bit.
Thanks
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Hi,
From Free BMD records you can see that the children married - I am not going to publish details in case we infringe Rootschat's policy on living persons.
I will leave you to do any further research yourself.
Alan
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Cheers Alan, appreciate that and I will have a look later. Thanks for everything.