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Gloucestershire / Re: Rawlings Family Search - Still Causing Confusion
« on: Monday 14 October 13 01:06 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: claire.t on Monday 14 October 13 00:16 BST (UK)
Hi

Matilda born 1864 her father was William Underhill, it looks like he had a SISTER born 1825 called Matilda, who went on to marry John Davis 1848. These two are the parents of Robert Davis bn 1864 Wraxall, who joined the navy and is the father of Robert William Davis,

What was the name given to R W Davis's mother on the birth cert?

claire

The name is Matilda Davis formerly Underhill

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Gloucestershire / Re: Rawlings Family Search - Still Causing Confusion
« on: Monday 14 October 13 00:04 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: claire.t on Sunday 13 October 13 15:54 BST (UK)
Even more confusing

John Davis married Matilda UNDERHILL  march Qtr. 1848 Bristol

So, it would seem that this Martha Underhill could be the daughter of William and Maria Underhill, she is aged 15 and shown next door to this family in Tetbury 1841 census

William and Maria's son William went on to marry an Elizabeth and I presume are the parents of your Matilda Underhill who went on to marry John Rawlings.

Matilda Davis nee Underhill may have had a son Robert Davis born Wraxall (have looked through the Wraxall census's and they appear to be the only Davis family there), maybe Robert Davis used the name John Rawlings to marry Matilda, they would have been 1st cousins, not illegal to wed but family may not have approved.

Robert Davis's R.N. Record is available to purchase on the National Archives website

Robert Davis: Official Number: 108533. Place of Birth: Wraxall, Somerset. Date of Birth: 17 March 1864.

claire

Cant be mine as Matilda wasn't born until 1864

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Gloucestershire / Re: Rawlings Family Search - Still Causing Confusion
« on: Monday 14 October 13 00:01 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: iluleah on Sunday 13 October 13 14:49 BST (UK)
Marriages Sep 1901   
Davis    James        Edmonton    3a   1004   
Rawlings    Matilda Louisa         Edmonton    3a   1004    

The district Edmonton spans the boundaries of the counties of Essex, Hertfordshire and Middlesex

Wrong Davis it is a Robert & not james

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Gloucestershire / Re: Rawlings Family Search - Still Causing Confusion
« on: Sunday 13 October 13 23:59 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: iluleah on Sunday 13 October 13 14:49 BST (UK)
Marriages Sep 1901   
Davis    James        Edmonton    3a   1004   
Rawlings    Matilda Louisa         Edmonton    3a   1004    

The district Edmonton spans the boundaries of the counties of Essex, Hertfordshire and Middlesex

wrong i think as this is a James davis & not Robert

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Gloucestershire / Re: Rawlings Family Search - Still Causing Confusion
« on: Sunday 13 October 13 23:58 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: iluleah on Sunday 13 October 13 15:11 BST (UK)
So Matilda's parents ......
Marriages 1Q 1849 

Lambert    Elizabeth         Tetbury    11   509      
Underhill    William         Tetbury    11   50

I believe these are the correct parents

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Gloucestershire / Re: Rawlings Family Search - Still Causing Confusion
« on: Sunday 13 October 13 23:56 BST (UK)  »
I have the Birth cert for Robert William Davis & it states his father is Robert Davis First Class Petty Officer in the Royal Navy.

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Gloucestershire / Re: Rawlings Family Search - Still Causing Confusion
« on: Sunday 13 October 13 15:00 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: iluleah on Sunday 13 October 13 14:28 BST (UK)
Is this your Matilda?

Name:    Matilda Underhill
Event Type:    Census
Event Date:    1871
Gender:    Female
Age:    6
Relationship to Head of Household:    Daughter
Birthplace:    Tetbury, Gloucestershire
Schedule Type:    Household
Registration District:    Tetbury
Sub-District:    Tetbury
Parish:    Tetbury
County:    Gloucestershire
     Household    Gender    Age    Birthplace
Self    William Underhill    M    44    Tetbury, Gloucestershire
Wife    Elizabeth Underhill    F    45    Tetbury, Gloucestershire
Daughter    Eliza Underhill    F    18    Tetbury, Gloucestershire
Son    Albert Underhill    M    15    Tetbury, Gloucestershire
Son    Richard Underhill    M    14    Tetbury, Gloucestershire
Daughter    Caroline Underhill    F    12    Tetbury, Gloucestershire
Son    Eli Underhill    M    10    Tetbury, Gloucestershire
Son    Henry Underhill    M    8    Tetbury, Gloucestershire
Daughter    Matilda Underhill    F    6    Tetbury, Gloucestershire
Son    Edward Underhill    M    4    Tetbury, Gloucestershire
Son    John Underhill    M    1    Tetbury, Gloucestershire

Hi yes i think this is the family

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Gloucestershire / Rawlings Family Search - Still Causing Confusion
« on: Sunday 13 October 13 14:22 BST (UK)  »
Hi All

I am trying to search for the Rawlings family, but it is causing great confusion.

John Rawlings married Matilda Underhill in Tetbury 1889 & had a son Robert William Rawlings born - 18 Feb 1900 (possibly in Portsmouth).  It is believed that John was a Petty Officer in the Royal Marines & died not long after Robert william was born.  I can find no birth record for Robert William.  It is believed that John's birth year was around 1859 & Matilda 1864.  I have had no trouble finding Matilda's side of the family but when it comes to John it's proving very difficult. 

I have found a Robert William on the 1911 Census living with his mother in Bristol, Matilda is stated as widowed.  I have found a John Rawlings on the 1891 census as being in Gloucester Lunatic Asylum (could this be him?). 

A chatter from Roots kindly helped me & found a Robert William Davis B in Portsmouth in 1900, mother Matilda Davis on the 1901 census.  But this would mean that Matilda was a Underhill then married & became a Rawlings, then changed to Davis & then back to Rawlings which makes no sense at all.  The chatter  who helped me found a wedding for a Davis to Underhill in Sept 1901 in London, they advised me to get a birth cert for this Robert Davis but it turns out the father name was Robert & not James as stated on the marriage cert.  I simply do not know if this Davis is of any connection at all.  The only info i know is 100% correct is that Robert william Rawlings married a Maggie Pitman in Bath Somerset Glos in 1922.  Stated on that marriage cert for father of groom is John Rawlings deceased.

Could it be that Matilda married John then he went into Asylum & she went onto marry Davis, bit it still does not explain why they reverted back the the name Rawlings if this is the correct family.

We know he was a Postman in Bristol later on in his life & it looks like I have a probate for Matilda & she leaves all to Robert.  I am totally & utterly confused & dont really know what my next search should be or where???

Any help would be gratefully appreciated

Many thanks

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Gloucestershire / Re: In search of Rawlings Family
« on: Wednesday 02 October 13 20:24 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Victor Harvey on Wednesday 02 October 13 19:38 BST (UK)
Hi,
I've found some more historical data that is most probably your family tree.
William UNDERHILL, son of William & Maria, a Labourer of Tetbury, baptised at St Mary the Virgin, Tetbury, 29th July 1827.
William UNDERHILL married Maria NIXON at St Mary the Virgin, Tetbury, 18th June 1815.
Elizabeth LAMBERT, dau of George & Maria, a Carrier of Cirencester, baptised at St Mary the Virgin, Tetbury, 27th December 1825.
George LAMBERT married Maria BARNFIELD at St Mary the Virgin, Tetbury, 19th October 1818.
Victor  :)
Hi many thanks for that very interesting

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