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Kent / Re: DYBALL family in Deptford - when did Mary die, please?
« on: Saturday 16 January 10 19:56 GMT (UK)  »
I have tree info for Samuel George Rutherford and Elizabeth if you want it (from Census and Parish Register), but no info for Mary.

Regards

Simon

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Monmouthshire Lookup Requests / Re: Royal Monmouth Light Infantry
« on: Tuesday 28 February 06 08:42 GMT (UK)  »
Dear 2shea,

I can't comment on the marriage situation, but the bandmaster bit is interesting.  Suggest you check his title on the music, whether its really Militia, Monmouthshire Light Infantry, Monmouthshire Regiment etc - picky I know but....

If he's living in St Mary Street, Monmouth, and was bandmaster to the Royal Monmouth anything, chances are it was the local Militia pre 1857, what is now the RMRE - allegedly the only unit with a double Royal in the title these days.  Seeing as your boy is in Southwark in 1851, its unlikely he'd be tied in to a Monmouthshire military unit before that

http://www.monmouthcastlemuseum.org.uk/militia.htm

If it was the Monmouthshire Regiment (or one of the other units who formed the South Wales Borderers), you may need to look at

http://www.rrw.org.uk/

There is probably a lot of Grenadier Guard Band  information out there

perhaps a good contact would be

http://www.grenadierguardsassn.freeserve.co.uk/ggaassoc.htm
rhqgrengds@yahoo.co.uk

You may be able to find a Victorian Military website, or something like Soldiers of the Queen (c.f. Rootschat or the Great War Forum) but I don't know of one.

http://www.vms.org.uk/fpage.html

Hope this helps,

Simon

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Norfolk / Re: Mingay, Sandall, Franklin & variants, Reepham 18th-19 thC
« on: Tuesday 28 February 06 07:49 GMT (UK)  »
I've just realised that William is supposed to have a son who died aged 17, of measles, presumably in Reepham.

I've not found him on BMD, or in the GRO indices yet - any trace ?

Regards

Simon

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Norfolk / Re: Mingay, Sandall, Franklin & variants, Reepham 18th-19 thC
« on: Sunday 26 February 06 17:25 GMT (UK)  »
Dear Eileen,

That's tremendous - it makes my hypothesis much more reaonable, and matches the anecdotes - now for the list of Norfolk postman ;D.

Many, many thanks,

Simon

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Norfolk / Mingay, Sandall, Franklin & variants, Reepham 18th-19 thC
« on: Sunday 26 February 06 09:20 GMT (UK)  »
Dear All,

This is a part of my periodic trawl to see if anyone can recognise anything. 

I'm searching for the family of Elizabeth Mingay-Sandall (c.1836 Reepham, Norfolk - 1916 Utica, NY).  She married in London (J.F.Peuss, 19 March 1861, St.George Bloomsbury), had two daughters them emigrated to the USA in 1865.  The two birth, the  marriage and the 1861 Census confirm the name Mingay-Sandall, and the fact that her father, William is a bricklayer.

US Family history associates the names Mingay, Sandall (with variants) and Frankland (with variants, including Franklin).  Elizabeth's father or uncle (Sandall) is apparently a postmaster who wrote letters for the parish, and the Franklands are in laws in-laws were a lay minister and school mistress in a small private school.  There  are family documents from c.1900, handwritten, but they merely confirm the trail that can be confirmed from the official records I've found.

Sarah Mingay-Sandall is a witness at Elizabeth Mingay-Sandall's wedding, but I haven't found much reference to her elsewhere (other than Sarah Mingay housemaid in London.  In 1901 there is a Sarah Sandall living with the Pummells in Reepham.  I've attached a conjectural tree, since I think that the William Mingay in Reepham may well be the father (since he is listed as a brick maker at one point), and the hyphenation is a genteel conceit that Sarah could have also used (there is also a William MIngat in Norwich, but I think he's the wrong one).   I've not found a Mingay-Sandall marriage in Norfolk (IGI, Genealogist etc).

Any connections out there ?


Regards

Simon

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Thank you for that - this could be the answer I've been looking for - Margaret dies in 1920 Kansas, surrounded by George's children.

Great.


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Kali

Those busy little Mormons eh ?  Thyanks for that, and now for the 1841 Census ....

Thank you.

Simon

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I believe John Smith (b 1784) and his wife Margaret (b 1796-98, Cenarth/Newcastle Emylyn nee Esau) are living in Cenarth with their family (children George Esau, possibly Elizabeth & Margaret) in 1841, possibly at Quarry Ffynnant - which may be a corruption of Ffynon/Fountain.  (From the 1851 Census Margaret is born in Cenarth, and certainly Margaret is there in 1861 and 1871).

Any info (and occupation/other siblings) much appreciated.

Regards

Simon


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On  minor point - it was possible to be a "Master Shipwright" and not necessarily a member of the Shipwrights Company, certainly by c.1850.  I'm not sure when the monopoly began to slip.  One family member was a Shipwright, free of the Merchant Taylors, with a Draper's Company charity apprenticeship.  It certainly confused me for some years.

There are certainly Rutherford shipwrights in the Rotherhithe/Deptford area in the 18thC, but we've yet to track Guild membership.  I believe it may be something to do with training elsewhere in the UK.

The Guildhall Library, and presumably the LMA, has a complete record of all the Freedoms of the City (which usually follow from the freedom of the various companies) on microfiche.

Regards for now.

Simon

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