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Thank you for the information on Clowne Burials...........If you type in Genuki Clowne Derbyshire..and scroll down to Clowne Burials...you'll find there are TWO post 1909 Burials.....I wonder where they came from!! Derek

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Derbyshire Resources & Offers / Re: Offer: Derbyshire Parish records
« on: Tuesday 14 April 20 11:28 BST (UK)  »
Hello Val..I think Matlock is an excellent source and I believe the detail with which they describe the archive suggests they have the full Records..........but don't bank on it.
I am a regular visitor to Derbyshire Records Office..and now you have presented me with the sort of problem I love I'll follow through..but obviously Matlock is closed. I'll find him!!
Do we agree that Charlotte came from East Farndon in Northants..that she married George Crook in Derbyshire.and also William Wardman (1902) in Derby??
I haven't looked yet, but are you aware which side of the family was Non conformist???? we'll have to find out what Charlotte was doing in Derby......just as a throw away..have you looked at William Wardman in Yorkshire???

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Derbyshire Resources & Offers / Re: Offer: Derbyshire Parish records
« on: Monday 13 April 20 09:36 BST (UK)  »
Hello Val....unfortunately i do not have those records; but they are, or would be in normal times, available at Derbyshire Records Office at Matlock.............which of course is shut due to certain current conditions. All is not lost..if and when the world returns to what some of us regard as normal..the records you are looking for are specifically Marriages 1899-1903 D4931/2/1.
If  things do return to normal and you are unable to get to Matlock..give me a yell.
All the best Derek.

Later..I don't know where you are in you research into this family..but I've had a quick look around.and Charlotte didn't seem to have had a very happy time..born 1869..seems to have married George Crook and been left a widow with two children by 1901..then married William Wardman in 1902.......who incidentally I can't find!!  and neither of them appear to be on the 1911.

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Derbyshire / Re: Gilbert Measham 1775/6 Derbyshire
« on: Wednesday 10 April 19 20:40 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Colin..I've found the following:
Gilbert 01.03.1776 Repton son of William MASAM and Ann........Ann turns out to be Ann Tunnicliffe of Ashbourne..who married William Measham at Ashbourne 1773.........crucially it says William Measham of Repton....so surely it must be the same man....William Measome born 1743 son of William.......
I'm a stickler for accuracy..but I think this'll do for me!!
Thanks again  Derek.

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Derbyshire / Gilbert Measham 1775/6 Derbyshire
« on: Wednesday 10 April 19 11:08 BST (UK)  »
This might get complicated!!! Gilbert Measham born Repton  1775 allegedly..but is not in the Repton PR's. Married Mary Meakin 1801 and had loads of kids..no problem. and died aged 84 in 1860.but where did he come from??
He is NOT the Gilbert Measham born 1790 Repton who.as a widower Married Mary Ann Parker in 1831 and died in 1858....I have a full history for this man, and he is irrelevant.
I am told that Gilbert 1775 was the son of Gilbert 1747 Repton....not so..or of William Measham 1743 Repton..again, not so.
The two Gilbert are so similar that they have been confused by some into being the same man or details attributed to the wrong man. The guy- MY Gilbert- who married Mary Meakin in 1801..was NOT born in 1790...neither was he the widower who married Mary ann Parker in 1831..because Mary nee Meakin actually outlived him...I have every last thing on this Gilbert..except his origins.. I know there is a Leicestershire connection somewhere..Odstone? Thornton?  but I can't pin it down    .Can anyone shed light - Please??  Derek (on behalf of a friend)

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Derbyshire / Re: Birth Record - Edith Lewis - 1903
« on: Monday 08 April 19 01:06 BST (UK)  »
The 1911 Census gives EDITH LEWIS as the sixth of seven children of George and Annie Lewis  living at 18 Union Street Long Eaton...........Her birth given as "about" 5 years...........George was  Railway Guard from Gloucestershire and his wife Annie was from lancashire..I suggest the work on the railway may have brought them to long Eaton...good luck..Derek

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Derbyshire / Re: Isaac Redfern
« on: Tuesday 19 February 19 17:36 GMT (UK)  »
Me again...........the Ashover Parish Records are disappointing  firstly because Obadiah's son William died as an infant. i ave a burial for an Isaac 27.12.1741
There is only ONE baptism for an Isaac REDFEARNE son of Abraham and Mary 18.08.1661..I can't find any other.............There is an Isaac and Mary producing children 1687-1704 at Ashover.almost certainly the one born 1661  .but if this is yours..it sort of knocks out the Morton stuff....including
 German....
The only way I see this working is if Isaac 1661 married Mary and had the Ashover brood nad mary died and Isaac remarried Anne and had the five Morton children...........That's a bit La La Land i'm afraid..but I#m looking!! Derek

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Derbyshire Lookup Requests / Re: Staveley Parish Registers - WORTHINGTON
« on: Tuesday 19 February 19 17:17 GMT (UK)  »
Rachel..you may have missed the fact that the Thread you have answered is NINE years old..and is unlikely to be still looking for answers..Try a PM..Good luck

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Derbyshire / Re: Isaac Redfern
« on: Tuesday 19 February 19 17:02 GMT (UK)  »
In the Morton Parish registers there are FIVE seemingly relevant Baptism..with Isaac Redfern named as father....and three of them have a mother Anne. You might think these to be two different families..but I'm sure they are not. In early baptisms the father may appear alone for any number of reasons..the wife was ill, or still recovering from the Birth
Iam certain that the following five children are yours because all six baptisms specifically say they were born at Brackenfield..a chapelry that did not achieve its own Parish records till 1827

ANNE daughter of Isaac and Anne bapt. 17.01.1698
ROBERT son of Isaac bapt. 08.01.1701
OBADIAH son of Isaac baptised08.08.1704
GERMAN son of isaac bapt 29.10.1707
THOMAS son of isaac and Anne baptised 12.12.1718

The only two burials at Morton are significant.being at Brackenfield   Isaac 30.09.1720 and Robert 18.12.1729

There are also two Baptisms for children of OBADIAH and MARY.. who were not married at Morton:
William Redfern bapt 13.02.1727   and Mary Redfern 25.01.1729
That is full extent of info to be gleaned from the Morton PR's..but I'll keep looking.
Your Ashover idea.might be relevant...............

Later:......getting somewhere?? OBADIAH REDFE(A)RN (!)....married MARY CANTRIL(L) at Ashover 009.09.1725..two different sources one of each spelling..I'm off to get my Aahover records out!!

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