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Travelling People / Re: Millers Carlisle?
« on: Tuesday 12 April 11 11:22 BST (UK) »
Thats interesting Crisane, Im sure there are others who have found out more, can these people be emailed?
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Travelling People / Re: Millers Carlisle?
« on: Tuesday 12 April 11 09:36 BST (UK) »
Thanks Crisane,
I have a Marriage cert for Rachel and it says her father is george Miller but it may not be the case......
My sister is going to order the Birth cert and hopefully that will sort it out!!! Thanks so much for your time and help....ill have to keep ploughing on with this family history.......
j x
I have a Marriage cert for Rachel and it says her father is george Miller but it may not be the case......
My sister is going to order the Birth cert and hopefully that will sort it out!!! Thanks so much for your time and help....ill have to keep ploughing on with this family history.......
j x
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Travelling People / Re: Millers Carlisle?
« on: Monday 11 April 11 11:39 BST (UK) »
The year for that record was 1901.....
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Travelling People / Millers Carlisle?
« on: Monday 11 April 11 10:47 BST (UK) »
hi all....
Tracing the Miller side of my family tree....have a record for my great grandmother Rachel and was hoping someone might have links to other members of the family. Rachel married my Great Grandfatther John T Young (Horse Dealer) in Hexham 1915. She was the second youngest from this record but they could have had more children. How could I find out more? They were Hawkers and I dont know if they were travellers.
23 Old Broad Quarter Caldegate Carlisle Cumberland
George Miller head 44 hawker b. Carlisle
Mary J wife 39 b. Brampton
Richard 17 son hawk (this has been added to the original census page) b. Carlisle
John W 12 b. do
George H 10 b. do.
Elizabeth 7 b. do.
Rachel 6 b. do.
Isaac 2 b. do.
Hope soemone can help me x
j
Tracing the Miller side of my family tree....have a record for my great grandmother Rachel and was hoping someone might have links to other members of the family. Rachel married my Great Grandfatther John T Young (Horse Dealer) in Hexham 1915. She was the second youngest from this record but they could have had more children. How could I find out more? They were Hawkers and I dont know if they were travellers.
23 Old Broad Quarter Caldegate Carlisle Cumberland
George Miller head 44 hawker b. Carlisle
Mary J wife 39 b. Brampton
Richard 17 son hawk (this has been added to the original census page) b. Carlisle
John W 12 b. do
George H 10 b. do.
Elizabeth 7 b. do.
Rachel 6 b. do.
Isaac 2 b. do.
Hope soemone can help me x
j
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Travelling People / Re: Stewart and Young hawker families
« on: Wednesday 23 February 11 10:13 GMT (UK) »
Jackie M -
I was just reading back over this post and realised you have Miller connections!!....My Great Grandmoher was Rachel Miller bron in Carlise 1892 and married my Great Grandfater John T Young from Hexham Norhtumberland in 1915. Found all this out just recently as my Grandfather left the area for London in the 1950's and never returned.
Miller Jacob Age 30 b Cumberland - Penrith Occupation (General Dealer)
Miller Mary Ann Wife 26 B Lancashire
Miller Ann dau 8 b Cumberland - Cockermouth
Miller George (my gg grandfather???) 4 born Cumberland - Carlisle
Miller William 2 born cumberland - carlisle
Miller Jacob 5 months old born in Scotland.
this is a record from 1861 Census....I was just wondering do any of the names look familiar or do you have any info on the these Millers? They may well my Rachel's fathers family but im not sure, there is another record which could possibly be it!
Ill try dig that out and paste in here in a bit...found it
1891 for Rachels parents
16 Jane Street Caldegate
George Miller 28 general hawker
Mary J 26
Richard 8 scholar
John W 2
George H one month
all born Carlisle except Mary Jane b. Brampton
Rachel hadnt been born yet so think this might be the gang as the ages and occupations add up
Im finding it difficult to find any traces?
Hope you can shed some light....
Jo
I was just reading back over this post and realised you have Miller connections!!....My Great Grandmoher was Rachel Miller bron in Carlise 1892 and married my Great Grandfater John T Young from Hexham Norhtumberland in 1915. Found all this out just recently as my Grandfather left the area for London in the 1950's and never returned.
Miller Jacob Age 30 b Cumberland - Penrith Occupation (General Dealer)
Miller Mary Ann Wife 26 B Lancashire
Miller Ann dau 8 b Cumberland - Cockermouth
Miller George (my gg grandfather???) 4 born Cumberland - Carlisle
Miller William 2 born cumberland - carlisle
Miller Jacob 5 months old born in Scotland.
this is a record from 1861 Census....I was just wondering do any of the names look familiar or do you have any info on the these Millers? They may well my Rachel's fathers family but im not sure, there is another record which could possibly be it!
Ill try dig that out and paste in here in a bit...found it
1891 for Rachels parents
16 Jane Street Caldegate
George Miller 28 general hawker
Mary J 26
Richard 8 scholar
John W 2
George H one month
all born Carlisle except Mary Jane b. Brampton
Rachel hadnt been born yet so think this might be the gang as the ages and occupations add up
Im finding it difficult to find any traces?
Hope you can shed some light....
Jo
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Travelling People / Re: Stewart and Young hawker families
« on: Wednesday 16 February 11 10:54 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Jackie M,
I will get all my bits n pieces together and see if there is any connection...Its hard to find info on the women in the family tree as I can never trace their maiden names or very rarely. Our relatives could be cousins if we make the right connection......my Young relatives seemed to have been based in or around Hexham, North. Looking forward to hearting more and finding out more ...
Jo x
I will get all my bits n pieces together and see if there is any connection...Its hard to find info on the women in the family tree as I can never trace their maiden names or very rarely. Our relatives could be cousins if we make the right connection......my Young relatives seemed to have been based in or around Hexham, North. Looking forward to hearting more and finding out more ...
Jo x
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Travelling People / Re: Stewart and Young hawker families
« on: Wednesday 16 February 11 09:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jackie M - Great to hear from you...i have spent the last few nights trawling family search sites to trace back the Millers......Im in work now and left all my notes at home but the name Jacob Miller is my gggrangfather and possible a Jacob Miller is his father too...does this name ring any bells to you...my great great grandfather was a George Miller and agian i have the details at home poss p.o.b would be Cockermouth, Cumberland?
regards
Jo
regards
Jo
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Travelling People / Re: Stewart and Young hawker families
« on: Monday 14 February 11 21:16 GMT (UK) »
thanks for that rob g, totally understandable that you have to live your life sometimes not telling people your true identity because of the prejuduces that are there, very sad and I feel a loss for everyone as non gypsy people would learn alot form romany gypsy life. I hope you will be around if i need some more help tracing my family
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Travelling People / Re: Stewart and Young hawker families
« on: Monday 14 February 11 09:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi Hillary,
I found out so much here but still no direct way to tell if my family were romany gypsies....my grandad left his family and moved away from them in the 1950s and had his own family but never spoke of his family to my dad so he never knew. They were all hawkers/pedlars or horse dealers and seemed to move around a bit, they were all very sallow skninned and my grandad was very dark and my dad is too.....I know its not much to go on but I believe either my grandad didnt want people to know he was a gypsy and that was the reason for all the mystery! Hope you find out more concrete clues than I have . Some of my dad rlatives are alive but we dont know them well enough as dad only found out he had relatives on his fathers side very recently, hopefully they will fill us in and all the pieces of the jigsaw can be put together.....I hope they can as I feel its sad that we still dont know and over the years I awlays asked Dad to find out...
joanne xxx
I found out so much here but still no direct way to tell if my family were romany gypsies....my grandad left his family and moved away from them in the 1950s and had his own family but never spoke of his family to my dad so he never knew. They were all hawkers/pedlars or horse dealers and seemed to move around a bit, they were all very sallow skninned and my grandad was very dark and my dad is too.....I know its not much to go on but I believe either my grandad didnt want people to know he was a gypsy and that was the reason for all the mystery! Hope you find out more concrete clues than I have . Some of my dad rlatives are alive but we dont know them well enough as dad only found out he had relatives on his fathers side very recently, hopefully they will fill us in and all the pieces of the jigsaw can be put together.....I hope they can as I feel its sad that we still dont know and over the years I awlays asked Dad to find out...
joanne xxx
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