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Hello again Wivenhoe
I forgot to thank you for the most interesting find where the sons of Eliza were ordered to pay her
so much a week..... we were just talking a few days back of how the old ones survived before
superannuation started.  I have search paper past and thought I had found all there, but I have now learn't keep looking............

Will get onto ordering Printouts for Jane and  John William  Wilson marriage 1856, notice date 16 Feb.
and also Eliza and John Thomas Bowen  3/7/1882 Invercargill
 

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Sorry everyone ...  John Thomas Bowen arrived in NZ 1876 on the ship Otago.
Yes that is our family of John Thomas Bowen and Eliza Bowen

BUT in my list of children  for John William and Jane Shipton
no Eliza
 I thought she was Eleanor ..... so will order a Printout as you have said.

Eleanor  maybe she had her very Young  and did she die?????
I have 9 children for jane and John William Wilson
mary jane 1856 Bird Island Amoura NZ
George Shipston 1858
Louisa 1859
Eleanor 1862 place...Arowhenua.  ( I have her actual birth Cert. and mother named as Jane Wilson
I was thinking she is Eliza.)  father john William Wilson  ( I forgot I had this)
Eva  1864 Arowhenua near Te Muka
Robert William 1865 m. Mary Brinkley
Margaret 1866 twin
Maria 1866 twin
Isabella Richardson (known as Ada ) spinster d. 1946 CHCH Bromley Cemetery CHCH

Have identified John Thomas Bowen parents as he had his fathers Crimean War medal and the black truck sent from England by his brother William Willie Bowen, b Zante Ionian Islands during the war.
Florence Nightingale put soldiers belongings into the Box ( which has his name George Bowen.No 1609, 41st Regiment of Foot with a letter that has been lost in NZ,  and this Box and Medal are in Tauranga nz with our cousins.
Found where Mary his wife is by a helpful person on Rootschat some years ago
Last year we visited wales and the Church and the death is in the Church book we were allowed to
look.  No headstone for Mary Bowen died 33 yrs.4/5/1857 Severn Port Llanidloes, of pneumonia  Richard Meredith present at death.
Also William Willie and wife Ellen Charlotte Bowen's grave New Brentford , Hounslow, London
they had no family  have wonderful pictures of William and Ellen Charlotte they had sent to NZ
to John Thomas Bowen
It has been quiet a adventure. 
Your help everyone is most appreciated
Decota

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John Thomas Bowen  b. 4/9/1854 Presteigne Radnorshire  England.
parents George Bowen died Crimean War.
Mary Bowen nee Leeke. ( I have found Mary buried in the St Idloes church yard, Llanidloes,
County of Montgomery, England
where her parents are also buried.

John Thomas Bowen arrived in NZ 1908  lived at Woodend 
died New Plymouth 9/8/1925  while living with his son John James Bowen at Marakopa, near Awakino. North Island.
Eliza spent her last years in Christchurch.  Article in Paperspast of how she attended Council meetings
and sometimes the only person in the Gallery.   .. so must have separated??? Eliza Bowen in Bromley Cemetery Christchurch headstone has just her name.
John Thomas and Eliza Wilson... usual address on marriage Cert.   both of them...   Woodend  (near Christchurch)  I have only Certified Copy of Entry of marriage , no witnesses on this.
Would there be a actual marriage Cert.  with witnesses if I send for one.  in 1882   
Should I send for one???

Freshfields       Thank you for the transcript of the headstone in kaiapoi

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witnesses on Certificate for marriage of John W Wilson and jane Shipston both aged 22 yrs,
marriage 2o February 1856 Lyttelton.
In the presence of Thomas Ervin??
and Jane Riddle.

I have a certified copy of entry of marriage for John Bowen and Eliza Wilson
3 july 1882 at Rev. J.G. Paterson's Invercargill
Eliza's parents John Wilson and Jane Wilson named Maiden name of mother Shipton

Maybe the Eleanor is wrong  I remember searching few years back and somehow have
misread the year 20 years difference.  as now you point in out Eleanor and Eliza are from different families. Just thought at the time she used two names.....
Our old photos of Eliza Bowen (nee) Wilson are all named Eliza. Thank you for pointing this out to me

minniehaha     Yes this could be her death.     Is this in the  Invercargill cemetery  ?? 

Decota


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Hello Janette
Thank you for searching for the cemetery records.

 Have been trying to tie in the initials  trying to find George Wilson, d. 19 May 1947
but he doesn't fit in to the family. so far....   But the John William Wilson grave is good as When... I
am able to identify him as Janes Shipton's husband.    will  know where he is .....

maybe they are not in Invercargill somewhere else in the South Island of New Zealand???
thank you Kiwihalfpint for working on this too
Decota

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Hello again
Yes  the marriage original Certificate is the only one I have and you are right no names of parents.
This is where I have her name as Shipston. she signed, he put a cross.
 
No  I have no definite information that the death of 1880 is our John William Wilson.

Guess I need to search the Cemetery file in Library  to see if they are in the same plot?

Eleanor  (Eliza) Wilson Married John Thomas Bowen,  Invercargill New Zealand ?
b.  1862   Timaru  (maybe incorrect)  no Cert. 
d. 18/09/1940 Christchurch  in her 79th year. (have death notice from paper)




 

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Hi KHP  and  Wivenhoe
Yes the names are correct    I have found in paperspast the death for John Wilson (not John William)
5th April 1880 in Gaol, Invercargill,  there is also a copy of a  commission of enquiry into Death of Prisoner Wilson...but I cannot
identify him as no mention of a wife, but your death date ties in with this.
Will also check out the tree on ancestry...  thank you

Hello Wivenhoe
Yes this is our family  I have these and we are related to Eleanor Wilson,
but don't have the Certificates for Births etc. 
Really would like to go back and find out more about John William Wilson and Jane Shipton
Thank you both for working on this for me
Decota 
     

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Please... need more information about the above two names... our GGreat Grandparents.
They were married 20/02/1856 Lyttleton, Wesleyan Church, Lyttlelton,  lived in Invercargill NZ ???
birth and death dates and where buried? cannot find them so far.
Also their parents names and where from ?   
Many thanks  Decota

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Samual Maltby Wilson Kaitangata Otago
« on: Sunday 01 April 18 10:34 BST (UK)  »
Hi Matilda30
I have sent you a personal message with the email address of contact I have
who are related to Samuel Maltby Wilson.   
If you have not received my message let me know..
Regards  Decota 

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