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Somerset / Re: Cottle/Cottel family - Shepton Mallet and Radstock areas
« on: Tuesday 17 November 15 23:13 GMT (UK)  »
Yes, that is one theory that myself and another family researcher are also thinking since we cannot find anything on "Cleue".

Thanks for the map link, that awesome :)

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Somerset Lookup Requests / Uriah Cottle - Bonded out to America 1752
« on: Monday 16 November 15 14:03 GMT (UK)  »
My first Ancestor in America was Uriah Cottle. He was transported as "Bonded to America" in March of 1752.

All theories on this side of the Atlantic are that he was convicted of a crime - hence deported.

I do not have a "World" Ancestry account so can not explore it there. I have googled it and still have come up with nothing.

Is there records available free online for convictions? I have searched through the website British History Online. I do not mind doing the work searching for it but I am starting to think that it may be some sort of pay site or maybe a site that is only offered to Brits.

I am trying to find the court record to see what crime he committed and to see if any of his family was sent with him.

That is why this is in the "Lookup" forum.

Thank you.

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Somerset / Cottle/Cottel family - Shepton Mallet and Radstock areas
« on: Monday 16 November 15 13:41 GMT (UK)  »
I am tracing an Ancestral line of the Cottle/Cottels in Shepton Mallet and Radstock. I will try to attach the Parish Record but just in case the fails, here is my question.

An Ancestor named Edward Cottle, born 30 March 1657 has his father as John Cottle and mother as Dorothy. In the notes of the parish record it states: John Cottle - Alias John of Cleue.

I have done a google search for just John of Cleue and the complete line and come up with nothing.

Does anyone know anything about this John Cottle or John of Cleue?

Thank you.

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Wigtownshire / Re: McKerlies - Campbell's Croft, Old Luce, Wigtownshire, 1700's
« on: Saturday 26 September 15 10:30 BST (UK)  »
Who was your Grandfather?

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Wigtownshire / Re: McKerlies - Campbell's Croft, Old Luce, Wigtownshire, 1700's
« on: Tuesday 24 July 12 11:23 BST (UK)  »
Update and I need some advice please.

I confirmed through Scotspeople that indeed Both John and Agnes are the children of George and Martha but the spelling was McCarlie. Interestingly enough though the orginal McKerlie son that started all of this James b. 1808 was not in the birth records but I do have his death record.

I ordered both records and then went off and running trying to find more information on Agnes. I just assumed when I went back to Scotspeople it would be in my cart and I could check out. Nope, nothing there.

They are in my timeline and I do have them saved to my favorites. Does anyone know how I can re-order them without having to pay the 5 credits to pull them up again?

Secondly, I think it is time for me to hit the Ireland boards for George and Agnes, Can anyone put me in the right direction?

Thanks.

PS I hit a brick wall for Agnes McCarlie after the 1851 British Census. I guess the next step is looking at her kids to see if she may be mentioned there :-\

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Wigtownshire / Re: McKerlies - Campbell's Croft, Old Luce, Wigtownshire, 1700's
« on: Monday 23 July 12 23:03 BST (UK)  »
I went ahead and ordered the 60 year (with shipping $30). I did find a hardback 80 year but they wanted $73.85 + shipping.

By the way I found out that the publisher, Nabu Press, is going to have an iPad app later this summer where you can download the book. When their app site is up and running it will be called Biblioboard.

K

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Wigtownshire / Re: McKerlies - Campbell's Croft, Old Luce, Wigtownshire, 1700's
« on: Monday 23 July 12 22:14 BST (UK)  »
The 60 years threw me off. I will order a copy, thanks.

Karen

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Wigtownshire / Re: McKerlies - Campbell's Croft, Old Luce, Wigtownshire, 1700's
« on: Monday 23 July 12 21:05 BST (UK)  »
Good afternoon Monica,

Something tells me that if I could find a census prior to the 1841 I may be able to solve my problems, but alas.....

This morning I worked for 4-5 hours strictly on agnes. I started with Scotspeople and concentrated fom 1760- 1804 for births and marriage's. The reason I started with 1760 is because a few trees state that both of their birthdays were 1762 even though I knew there was little chance that Agnes would have a 3 children in her 50's. Or at least I did not think so.

So I found 3 possible birth records for an Agnes in that time period.

30 April 1772, Father Patrick McDowall, Stranraer Parish

04 April 1778, Father James McDowell, Mother Helen McCoskrie, Stranaer Parish

15 Oct 1784, Father William McDowell, Mother Agnes McClurg, Kirkmaiden, Wig.

Those birthdates to me make more sense for the age of a mother from 1800-1808.

There were 4 marriages for an Agnes McDowell during that period but none to a George McDowell.

As far as death goes I checked on Scotspeople and hit a dead end. So my only option is to start looking into Ireland since John had that as his place of birth on the 1841 census. I think since I do not have a county though, I will only concentrate on the coastal counties across the sea from Wigtownshire.

I will take your advice on checking with other researchers, thanks for the tip.

My next move is going to try to piece together this James b. 1802 and Agnes b. 1802. I will try Scotspeople first.

I was lucky with the McKerlies tree. My husbands cousin Ellen traveled from California to Old Luce back in the early 70's. She passed away in 2001 and when my husband started a webpage for the Vyborny-McKerlie family her kids passed it on to him. She researched everything prior to the internet and handtyped it.

My husbands grandfather (and hers) was Alexander who was the son of James b. 1839 who was the son of James 1808.

Alexander married Roxie Doran in 1903. That was a little tricker to figure out but I have it back to 1825 in Franklin County, Va. and a lead possibly taking it back to the further generation in 1690 but I need to contact the Library of Virginia to ask them to please, please pull the file and send me a copy. At least I have the box number and file number.

Ah and then the Vyborny's. My husband already had them back to 1790 but try building a tree on Ancestry and typing all of those Czech names in, not fun. There is a Czech Vyborny site online that I can continue to link our family to but I am not in a rush to start typing those names again :(

So as to MY family? One was easy, there was already a book written on my mothers family (Duffields from England who immigrated to the US in 1682) so I have not bothered to build a tree since it is all over Ancestry.

My fathers is another story. I have made it back to my great grandfather who arrived in the US from Italy, Giovanni Senise in 1888 and hit a brick wall. So I totally understand.

What is the family information that you hit a brick wall on. Maybe someone else looking at it fresh may help. Trust me, I am getting burnt out on George and Agnes and want to pull my hair out.

Are you in Scotland?

Karen

 

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Wigtownshire / Re: McKerlies - Campbell's Croft, Old Luce, Wigtownshire, 1700's
« on: Monday 23 July 12 11:41 BST (UK)  »
I now have close to 45 different spellings for mcKerlie.

I went to all of my online booksellers and one of them had this:

Galloway Gossip Sixty Years Ago; Being a Series of Articles Illustrative of the Manners, Customs, and Peculiarities of the Aboriginal Picts of Galloway

by Maria Trotter

But that does not seem to to be the same. Maybe his wife's or daughter?

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