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Warwickshire / Re: burial mystery- birmingham cemeteries
« on: Friday 31 August 12 08:13 BST (UK)  »
Hi there

Ok this is what I know. I know he had siblings but he didn't get on well with them and he didn't speak or see them when he was alive. So we don't even know where his siblings are or live.


Like mentioned in my previous post all I know his on the death reference it's says he died in the district of Wolverhampton in the. County of Staffordshire. So I don't know where you have got Warwickshire from and as far as we knew he died somewhere in. Birmingham.

We just want to find where he is buried and in what cemetery so we can go visit his grave and pay our respects

Hope this help  :)

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Warwickshire / burial mystery- birmingham cemeteries
« on: Thursday 30 August 12 21:02 BST (UK)  »
hi everyone ,

 i am stuck on where to look now.  i am trying to find out where a family member of mine was buired. all i know is he was buried somewhere around or near birmingham. 

his name was a Terence John Dalton
born: 13th november 1954
Died: 10th august 1976
i have found a death reference for the above but all it mentions is  he died in the district of wolverhampton and in the county of staffordshire.

i just don't know where to look to find the cemetery  he was buried in

any help would be greatly appreciated thank you


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Down / Re: Toman family help
« on: Wednesday 29 August 12 19:39 BST (UK)  »
just an update on info
thanks to the Irish name tradition sent by Padraig3   i have looked at the information i do have and believe that the Irish naming tradition was used by john toman . as john toman named his son felix toman (First son after father's father) and felix was john toman's father so i would be thinking that felix's father was named john Toman.

thanks again for all your help so far

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Down / Re: Toman family help
« on: Friday 24 August 12 16:45 BST (UK)  »
hi thanks for your reply Padraig3   in answer to your latest post

i have had a look at the bernard toman and the felix toman to a felix toman born of the same father and mother a margaret.  Only problem with that is the name that is written on the marriage certificate is Rose ( i know no other name for his wife) and also the years they were born in this searches is to late. The birth year range  for john toman is between 1827 upto 1835 ( as his birth year varies on census/marriage and death records)


with the licensed victualer  occupation of john toman. He wasnt always a licensed victualer when he lived in ireland he was a tailor and when he came over to liverpool he became a licensed victualer.

i dont think there is a connection with the bernard .

i do know that felix must be the right name for john tomans father as john toman had a sone called felix who died as a infant. And felix isnt a name i would of thought people would normally choose as a child name. only this would have been chosen if the name was in the family before.

below is a census search done for 1881 census and it is for the john toman in ireland other relatives of the tomans.

relation      Mary Mc Conville   F   63    Ireland
relation       Sarah A Quinn   F   73    Ireland

although i don't  know what relation they are to the tomans if they are relatives from the cunninghams or the tomans.

* Moderator Note: cut & paste LDS census details removed in accordance with Rootschat policy.

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Down / Re: Toman family help
« on: Friday 24 August 12 11:29 BST (UK)  »
UPDATED INFORMATION:

 i have looked at john toman's death certificate and also his marriage certificate and when  now hen using the year of marriage and his age his birth year actually comes to 1827

but when looking at the year of death and his age at death his year of birth comes to 1833

now it gets confusing because in the 1881 england census in liverpool john tomans birth year comes to 1834

in the 1891 census john tomans birth year comes to 1833


In reply to tara

i think he may of been catholic .

 i know felix and rose  stayed in ireland when john toman left for liverpool in 1851.

i have had a look on the rootsireland website and i have found a john toman born to a felix toman but his birth year is 1812.  I dont know where to look now. as i've tried everything .but i'll keep trying.

I thought that maybe felix and rose came over with john to liverpool in 1851, like alice jane cunningham and her parents all came over with her siblings. but i've not been able to find a felix and rose with john in liverpool together.  

thanks

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Down / Re: Toman family help
« on: Friday 24 August 12 08:18 BST (UK)  »
Hi tara thanks for your reply to my post. i can't tell you to be honest if they went to durham, there could be a possibility and i don't know where rose was born. As mentioned in my first post i think they were born around 1800-1810 as their son John toman was born in 1834 and i know john toman came over to liverpool and married a alice jane cunningham in liverpool that same year. I am also looking for alice jane cunninghams parents aswell.

samuel cunningham is alice jane cunninghams father and he was a general dealer/nail maker and was born around1811 give or take a few year.s her mother was also called alice (surname unknown.) i know they came from ireland maybe county downs area   alice jane cunningham born 1838 died 1882 had 3 siblings a ann born 1832 a eliza born 1836 and a john born 1838.

Back to john toman i know he was a tailor in ireland before he came over to liverpool in 1851 where he became a licensed victualer to a number of pub over a number years.

whats the link for the free index so i can have a look at who the eight children are.  do you think that john toman could have had a variation to his name thats why it doesnt show up as having a john toman born to a felix.

Hopefully if i do find out where my tomans came from in ireland i would eventually love to go over to ireland, but i dont know for definate where abouts they came from.

ido know that the tomans are commonly known in a few counties. but any help is appreciated.

thanks again.

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Down / Toman family help
« on: Thursday 23 August 12 17:59 BST (UK)  »
My name is Rachel Lowe and i am looking for the parents of  a john toman born 1834 in ireland, county down.
he married a alic jane cunningham also born in ireland.

John tomans parents are a felix toman ( occupation:weaver) and Rose( surname unknown) they were both born in ireland.  we believe that felix and rose were born around 1808 give or take a few years, but this is a guess.

the names felix and rose are correct because they appear on the 1851 marriage certificate and parish record for the marriage of john toman to alice jane cunningham in liverpool.

Now the two place names that have come up  when talk about the tomans is the names rafrilland and downpatrick although i do not know what these two place name reference to.

i am wanting to find out about any siblings of john toman also as we have only ever known of john toman and would be nice to find out if he had an brothers and sisters.

if anyone could help with any of this i would be extremely grateful as i hwant to know more about my irish relatives/ancestors and i have hit a brick wall with this and don't know how to move foward.

thanks

rachel lowe


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