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Aberdeenshire / Re: Dalgarno of Aberdeen
« on: Saturday 04 March 17 08:18 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Red Roses
Quite happy to share information regarding this elusive Dalgarno family.  Contact me at (*)

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 but please allow me a week to reply!  I am travelling home from south of France and stopping along the way.

Look forward to chatting on email.  Thanks RootsChat for making this possible.

Frances

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Aberdeenshire / Re: Militia ~1800 Aberdeenshire
« on: Monday 13 February 17 10:15 GMT (UK)  »
As a start point (assuming you have not been able to progress) try the following:  http://www.aberdeencity.gov.uk/education_learning/local_history/archives/loc_cataloguesmilitia.asp

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Aberdeenshire / Re: Dalgarno of Aberdeen
« on: Monday 06 February 17 12:03 GMT (UK)  »
Hi
After some considerable time I have found a source of information for Dalgarno.  This may be rather time consuming, but on a visit to the Aberdeen and North East Scotland Family History Society office in King Street, Aberdeen, I had some success at last.  A 5th cousin (also researching) ran a check on burial records for Dalgarno.  This produced three records for children of John Dalgarno, Shoemaker and another for his wife, Catherine Carrol.  Ages and addresses are included.  I believe this to be my missing shoemaker.  In with these records were two burials for children of my other Dalgarno (William).  I asked for the relevant microfiches and now have prints.

Perhaps an enquiry to these people might be a way forward if no other information comes to light?  Remember there are variants on this name.  Some of my records were found under Dalgarden.  I think his spouse may also be listed under Karl in records though I have not checked this yet.

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Aberdeenshire / Re: Dalgarno of Aberdeen
« on: Saturday 05 March 16 20:48 GMT (UK)  »
Hayley
Sorry, this is not good news for you.  Some time ago I searched for all Dalgarnos on FamilySearch then posted them into a spreadsheet to look for family groups. I found your Andrew and his spouse, also children Sylvester and Christen.  I did not find obvious parents for Andrew.  If you have already searched, I think the record(s) no longer exist.

I never did solve my John Dalgarno problem.  I think his records are missing.  I was able to follow the Kitson family but still can't 'fit' them into my tree.  So many Ancestry trees have conflicting people I don't know if the answers we seek will be found.  On the bright side, anything we can verify before 1800 has to be a bonus!

Frances

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Aberdeenshire / Re: Dalgarno of Aberdeen
« on: Friday 28 June 13 11:14 BST (UK)  »
Does anyone out there have any fresh ideas?  Re the above - I have been round some graveyards in the Aberdeen area and noted any Dalgarnos appearing there but none seem to relate to mine.  I think they must all be in Aberdeen itself.

I found the stone for Barbara Dalgarno who married George Harris and with the information I tracked Barbara.  She is definately not the one on my tree who was born/baptised January 1801 to William Dalgarno and Margaret Runciman - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XBQ3-2BL.  Unfortunately I have found nothing else for her.

I have checked with Aberdeen Archives but they have no record on John Dalgarno, Shoemaker.

Frances

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Aberdeenshire / Re: Dalgarno of Aberdeen
« on: Monday 27 May 13 20:17 BST (UK)  »
Looby
Checked my info again - another point of interest!  My Helen B K McGregor was born 29 Aug 1868 in BANFF!  I could not understand this but I have the documentation.  Her parents were visiting the Kitson home!!  The address on the child's birth cert and Eliza's death cert are the same!!!  This probably explains the duplicate naming.

Re the Census:  I don't have these saved but I just looked them up again.  No 1841 Census.  1851 - 1881 only.  I will look into your Isabella theory.  By the way - I checked the Harris spouse connection.  I am certain the trees I looked at are not accurate.  Spouse Harris married a different Barbara, not my family.  I have visitors arriving tomorrow, so it will be a few days.

Frances

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Aberdeenshire / Re: Dalgarno of Aberdeen
« on: Monday 27 May 13 18:14 BST (UK)  »
Hi Looby
Yes, that's the stage I have reached.  It was when I saw the middle names of the children I thought - assuming the one is named after the other - the two families must have been close.  Henry Kitson died after 1851 and Elizabeth moved to Banff to live with family.  I had hoped I could come around in a circle and 'sneak up' on John from a different angle.

I think John in Old deer might still be my shoemaker but if so, there must be another one around whose birth is in the correct time frame.  I have checked the trades Burgess records and apprentice register for John but he does not appear.  These are both online but they seem to only cover Aberdeen city.  I have other ancestors in both books.

There appear to be Dalgarno strongholds at Slains (still a possible family), Old/New Deer, Peterhead and Longside.  All are within a reasonable distance of Aberdeen.  When I traced Elizabeth's death after 1855 I thought I had it.  Imagine my disbelief when I saw the parent information missing  :'(.

By the way, my friend Carole searching for her missing grandfather Scott in the Borders found not only him but family she knew nothing about.  I know you were trying to help her.

Frances

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Aberdeenshire / Re: Dalgarno of Aberdeen
« on: Monday 27 May 13 14:01 BST (UK)  »
OK, so the above Dalgarno search failed.  I have taken a membership offer for Ancestry but any promising leads failed to produce reliable results and I can spot errors in some trees I have checked.  Sources appear to be other Ancestry treet.

There are lots of John Dalgarno's in and around Aberdeen.  I have located John who was a shoemaker in the 1841 and 1851 census for the village of Deer/Old Deer).  He is probably my shoemaker, but I stumbled on unexpected information:

In my tree there is a child named Elisabeth Blackhall Kitson Mcgregor, born 1868.  I have found a birth in 1847 (Aberdeen St Nicholas) for Elisabeth Blackhall Kitson.  This seems to be some coincidence! :-\ :-\ I think mine was named for this one.  Her parents were Henry Kitson (a seaman) and Eliza Dalgarno. Eliza/Elizabeth died in 1882 at Banff.  Unfortunately her parents were not known by her children with who she was living at her death.  Her father is named as ---- Dalgarno, shoemaker.

I am unable to find further information but I need to connect John with a family containing a William Dalgarno who married Margaret Runciman in Aberdeen and had a child Jean Dalgarno in 1799.

Can anyone see a way forward??

Frances

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Hi
I just came across this thread today.  It has been interesting to see the 'other' side of the search.  My grandfather and his cousin were Lithuanians who emigrated to Scotland the found they had either to join the British Forces during WW1 or be deported to Russia.  They arrived in Archangel in 1917.  Many men moved on and joined Russia 'white' units.  Most failed to return to their families in Scotland.  My grandfather and his cousin remained in the area and were recruited into the Slavo British Legion in the following spring when Maynard and his forces arrived.  They were probably in the unit that mutinied although I believe only a small number of men, possibly Bolshevik prisoners who joined the group, but the legion was downgraded to a labour unit.  The men returned home in the evacuation from Archangel.

It is a fascinating bit of history, information is had to find and I most certainly agree the fear of comunism was at the heart of it.  I found the WhitePapers relating to the decision to deport the foreign men online at the National Archives website.  They are described as Russian, regardless of origin.

I hope you find what you are looking for.

Frances

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