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Limerick / Re: Ballingarry - Kenney
« on: Wednesday 14 May 14 21:48 BST (UK)  »
Mary Hickey Kenney died in 1898.   Kate Kenney was born in 1862.  Her death certificate was wrong.  Same date, wrong year.  She may have told her 2nd husband she was alot younger than what she was.  I can't find her and George Kenney's marriage cert (he was born 7/22/1883 and died 8/30/1969 in Oak Park).  His 2nd (or 3rd) wife was Rose Faigl Hondlik. 

Kate Kiley (1st husband) and PJ Kiley were in the papers alot.  He was the Superintendent of the Insane Asylum for a few years.  He died in 1893.  Patrick Kenney found him dead, he suffocated after drinking too much. 

I have all of this information, and all the information you just commented on my tree.

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Limerick / Re: Ballingarry - Kenney
« on: Wednesday 14 May 14 21:25 BST (UK)  »
John Kenney & Elizabeth O'Connell Kenney, are not my relatives.  I already worked on that lineage.   

Patrick had a brother John, at least I can only assume so.  John died 7/25/1917 and is buried with Patrick and Mary, and then Alexander Kiley & Patrick J. Kiley.  Alexander is the son of Patrick Kiley.  And Patrick Kiley was married to Kate Kenney - daughter of Patrick & Mary. 

John's death certificate is a little unclear, but it looks as if his place of birth states "Ireland" or "Cleveland".  Kate Kiley remarried a George Kenney sometime in 1917-1918.  So I can't put aside that the John Kenney buried with Patrick Kenney, could be related to Kate's 2nd husband.  So confusing...i know.  SHe married a man with the same last name as her maiden name.  Haven't figured out that either. 

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Limerick / Re: Ballingarry - Kenney
« on: Wednesday 14 May 14 21:16 BST (UK)  »
Most of those entries are from me.  I'm just stuck...not sure where else I can obtain information to know more about the Hickey line or the Kenneys.

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Limerick / Re: Ballingarry - Kenney
« on: Wednesday 14 May 14 20:59 BST (UK)  »
Its approximate...their marriage record doesn't state it.  The US 1870 census states that Patrick was 30 and Mary Kenney was 33.  so Patrick (born approx 1840) and Mary (approx 1837).  Patrick Kenney died 11/23/1909 in Chicago.  Mary Kenney died 2/9/1899 in Chicago.

I have their death certficiates.

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Limerick / Ballingarry - Kenney
« on: Wednesday 14 May 14 19:26 BST (UK)  »
I'm trying to dig further on my Kenney & Hickey ancestors from Ballingarry, Limerick.  Unfortunately Patrick Kenney and Mary Hickey were born with such common names and their marriage record (1860) didn't offer their parents names.   They had a daughter Catherine in 1862 and came to Chicago sometime before 1870.  The family has resided in Chicago ever since.

Can anyone help me try and figure out how i can go about figuring out their siblings, parents? I can't find their passenger list either. 


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Waterford / Re: Lalor Confusion
« on: Monday 10 February 14 18:16 GMT (UK)  »
No it just lists her name as Ann Lalor.  I'm taking it as his wife, as he had a wife Ann (Nancy).  She then remarried a few years later.   

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Waterford / Re: Lalor Confusion
« on: Saturday 08 February 14 12:52 GMT (UK)  »
So The Walter Lalor death record where I stated he died in 1872, Ann Madden was the informant.    If you look at the record, the Walter Lalor who died in 1868, a Walter Lalor is the informant.  If you look at the death records side by side, they are living at the same address.   Another interesting thing is the marriage record between Walter & Ann, a Walter Lalor is the witness.   They couldn't have been father and son as the ages are off.  They are only like 10-12 years apart.   
 
One of the Walter Lalors had a father Walter who was a farmer.  His siblings were Jeremiah, Margaret and Mary.I know Poulnagunoge was small back then, so all of these people have to be related.   The question is, now my 3rd great grandmother, who was her mother.  Mary Madden or Ann madden? I'm not sure I'll ever really know.  Its so confusing since both Walter Lawlor families at that time went to the same church. 

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Waterford / Re: Lalor Confusion
« on: Friday 07 February 14 21:57 GMT (UK)  »
Ok I went and purchased some certs today....


Ok these two Walter Lawlors have to be related some how. I’ve been staring at these records for the last 30 minutes.

1. Walter Lawlor born around 1820 – 3/19/1868. Address: Poulnagunoge St. Mary’s. Occupation: Small Farmer. The informant on his death notice was Walter Lawlor.

2. Walter Lawlor born around 1810 – 11/18/1872. Address: Poulnagunoge St. Mary’s. Occupation: Small Farmer. The informant on his death notice was Ann Madden Lawlor.


The Walter Lawlor who married Ann Madden in 1860, the witness was Walter Lawlor.


These are all the women married to Walter Lawlor in the Waterford/Tipperary


25 credits Church Marriage Cahil Johanna 1801 Co. Waterford


25 credits Church Marriage Mahony Mary 1840 Co. Waterford


Already Viewed Church Marriage Kelly Alice 1846 Co. Waterford


25 credits Church Marriage Kelly Johanna 1846 Co. Tipperary


25 credits Civil Marriage Madden Mariane 1855 Co. Tipperary


Already Viewed Church Marriage Madden Mary 1855 Co. Waterford


Already Viewed Church Marriage Madden Ann 1860 Co. Waterford


25 credits Church Marriage Madden Anna 1860 Co. Tipperary


I purchased the Johanna Kelly and Mary Mahony marriage cert. They both married a Walter Lawlor in Powerstown. Mary must have died, then he married Alice/Johanna. Now whether there’s any relation to the Walter Lawlor I'm looking for, I’m not sure. But its worth looking into as someone may have a family tree out there on these woman and a Walter Lawlor.

Is Powerstown close?  I'm just at a loss as there are so many Walter Lalors now and its getting confusing.  Could it be father and son? 

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Waterford / Re: Lalor Confusion
« on: Friday 07 February 14 19:04 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you!

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