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West Lothian (Linlithgowshire) / Re: Mcguires from Linlithgow
« on: Wednesday 29 March 06 23:01 BST (UK)  »
How do we "prove" that our McGuires are related? The first difficulty is that "my" McGuires were so much earlier and I can only prove that one of them - Ann McGuire - ever lived in Scotland.

Ann was the daughter of Luke McGuire and Katie McHurrey. She died in Linlithgow in 1861 aged 52.
Somebody did some research in Griffiths Valuation for me and there were 71 Maguire or McGuire families in Leitrim in 1856.
All the Irish seemed to live in the High Street in the 1840s, 50s and 60s.

Has anybody else traced their McGuires back to this period?

Rosemary

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Cumberland / Troutbeck and the Queen's Head Inn...
« on: Saturday 27 August 05 08:38 BST (UK)  »
Alas, I have no way of knowing at the moment if I am even related to the Tysons of Troutbeck - having re-read the history of the Lorn Furnace Company at Bonawe in Argyll, they were operating in the area from 1753, so it is entirely possible that the first Henry Tyson was indeed born in Argyll  - as the 1841 census claims.  That would mean that I am looking for his parents - possibly John Tyson but the mother's name is unknown since Henry only had one recorded daughter.

However, we went back to Cumbria a few weeks ago and had a lovely drink sitting outside the Queen's Head Inn, gazing out at the fells. Even if I never discover where MY Tysons come from, I shall have a lovely time tracking down all incidents of Tysons in the north-west and drinking to their memory in local hostelries.  My next trip will take in Nether Wasdale and L'al Ratty.

Gus

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Cumberland / Re: One Troutbeck too many...
« on: Wednesday 10 August 05 22:23 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for those kind replies.  My Henry was born about 1761 or 1762, as he is recorded as being 79 in the 1841 census in Argyll.  I think that the former Westmoreland Troutbeck is probably more likely as a source of Tysons, since there is some connection with Joseph Tyson married to Agnes Mackereth, whose relations(Mackereth) may have run the Queen's Head Inn at the time of the 1851 census.
Joseph Tyson's daughter Catherine Tyson was born in Bonawe, Argyll in 1780 but she is only christened in Troutbeck four years later - after her father had died and her mother had presumably returned there. The records for this family are in England - presumably they were Anglican not Church of Scotland, although the "English Church" in Taynuilt, Argyll, had one thousand members at the height of its influence.  These people must have come from Cumberland, Westmoreland and Lancashire.

Gus.

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Cumberland / One Troutbeck too many...
« on: Monday 08 August 05 21:34 BST (UK)  »
I'm trying to trace an ancestor - Henry Tyson - who possibly originated in Cumberland.  There is a Joseph Tyson who was in the same area - Argyll, Scotland - in the same time period - the 1780s.  I have traced  Joseph back to Troutbeck - his only daughter was christened there.  However, I now find that there are two separate Troutbecks - how do I know which is the correct  1780s Troutbeck?

Gus

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Argyllshire / Re: Link: Loch Fyne, Cairndow
« on: Thursday 04 August 05 18:32 BST (UK)  »
This is the most beautiful site - and if you care to contact them by telephone, you will find the most lovely people.  My ancestors spread to this area from further north.  I can thoroughly recommend the site AND the area. The Loch Fyne Oyster Bar is superb - and they are also lovely, caring people.  My last dog was injured near here and they could not have been more helpful or considerate.  A MUST VISIT! Their garden site is also pretty good.

Augustus

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Scotland / Re: scotlandspeople v IGI
« on: Thursday 04 August 05 18:25 BST (UK)  »
Following this line of enquiry, I have just been informed by a very polite gentleman that my ancestor in Muckairn parish, Argyll, did not exist. Eh, hello?
This poor fellow was under the misapprehension that everything appearing on the LDS Family Search site was the gospel truth, and that if your ancestors weren't there, then they didn't exist....
Sorry, chaps, but ...I don't think so!
As JAP says, make use of the Familysearch site because it's free, but be very aware that - like most records - there are large gaps.

Augustus

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Stirlingshire / Re: 1851 Census for lennoxtown
« on: Thursday 04 August 05 17:39 BST (UK)  »
Dear JAP,

I have noted your many postings on this forum with awe.  Have you any advice for somebody trying to pursue family named  - variously - Docherty, Dougherty, Doherty  - but of whom there seemed to be at least six unrelated strands in the parish of Campsie in the 1880s?

Should I treat the fact that each family has differently named forebears as proof that they are in no way connected, or should I presume that they are - back in Ireland - and I have simply failed to research them thoroughly enough?

Augustus

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Kinross-shire / Re: Bennet
« on: Thursday 04 August 05 17:27 BST (UK)  »
I take it that you are aware that Orwell Kirk at that time would have been nearer Milnathort than Kinross?

Augustus.

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