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Wexford / Re: De Rinzy - Turbett
« on: Saturday 04 November 17 02:34 GMT (UK) »
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Wexford / Re: De Rinzy - Turbett
« on: Friday 03 November 17 23:43 GMT (UK) »
I have tested with both Ancestry and FamilyTree. I am happy to exchange information but I think we are supposed to correspond directly, not in a public forum.
I will figure out how this is done.
Regards,
John Turbott
I will figure out how this is done.
Regards,
John Turbott
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Wexford / Re: De Rinzy - Turbett
« on: Friday 03 November 17 03:23 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for your reply.
Since I posted my questions I have found out a little bit more about the De Rinzys. James Harward De Rinzy, civil engineer, married Elizabeth Turbitt in the Clogher Cathedral, County Tyrone, 24 July 1867. It seems possible that the marriage was not welcomed by his family. At the time, he had been living at Ballinroan House, County Wicklow. His father was Matthew Thomas De Rinzy of Clobemon Hall, County Wicklow and his mother Jane Richards Jessop.
The married couple left shortly after for India. They had a son Harwood Jessop Edwards De Rinzy, born in Allahabad, Bengal. I am not sure how long they lived in India but they returned to England at some time. James died in London in 1903 and Elizabeth in Dorset in 1906.
This is all I know. I hope it may be of some use to you in sorting out your family tree.
Kind regards,
John Turbott
Since I posted my questions I have found out a little bit more about the De Rinzys. James Harward De Rinzy, civil engineer, married Elizabeth Turbitt in the Clogher Cathedral, County Tyrone, 24 July 1867. It seems possible that the marriage was not welcomed by his family. At the time, he had been living at Ballinroan House, County Wicklow. His father was Matthew Thomas De Rinzy of Clobemon Hall, County Wicklow and his mother Jane Richards Jessop.
The married couple left shortly after for India. They had a son Harwood Jessop Edwards De Rinzy, born in Allahabad, Bengal. I am not sure how long they lived in India but they returned to England at some time. James died in London in 1903 and Elizabeth in Dorset in 1906.
This is all I know. I hope it may be of some use to you in sorting out your family tree.
Kind regards,
John Turbott
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Laois (Queens) / Re: Townland Tarbert
« on: Wednesday 30 August 17 03:47 BST (UK) »
I meant to say also that I have discovered a good deal of information about the Barony of Fore, where Turbotstown is located, from a little book "Medieval Fore, County Westmere" by Rory Masterson.
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Laois (Queens) / Re: Townland Tarbert
« on: Wednesday 30 August 17 03:43 BST (UK) »
I would be most interested to see a copy of the Tempan article in the Kerry Magazine (which is not available locally) if you are able to send it. I will also try to hunt down a copy of your book in the local genealogy library, if not perhaps try the services of Kenny's who do a good deal on international postage.
It would appear that the Deese (Dease) family took over the land at Turbotstown around 1272, well before the plantation period. Is it still possible that they were from a Laois sept?
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It would appear that the Deese (Dease) family took over the land at Turbotstown around 1272, well before the plantation period. Is it still possible that they were from a Laois sept?
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Laois (Queens) / Re: Townland Tarbert
« on: Tuesday 29 August 17 01:00 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for your helpful response. Apologies for not responding more quickly - I have been overseas (from New Zealand where I live).
Some time ago I received a response, through another avenue, to my query which suggested that the name Tarbert may have arisen in Laois from the Gaelic tairbeart, the reasoning being that there were two local streams, presumed to have been navigable rivers in Viking times, and that the townland may have been a portage point.
My interest is in trying to establish the provenance of the surname Turbott (Turbitt, Turbett) which, as far as I can establish, came to Ireland in Norman times. There is a townland Turbotstown in Westmeath which probably was so named in the time of Hugh DeLacey. About 100 years later, the land passed to the Deese family, who continued in ownership until the late 19th\early 20th century. I wonder if this family was related to one of the Laois septs.
Some time ago I received a response, through another avenue, to my query which suggested that the name Tarbert may have arisen in Laois from the Gaelic tairbeart, the reasoning being that there were two local streams, presumed to have been navigable rivers in Viking times, and that the townland may have been a portage point.
My interest is in trying to establish the provenance of the surname Turbott (Turbitt, Turbett) which, as far as I can establish, came to Ireland in Norman times. There is a townland Turbotstown in Westmeath which probably was so named in the time of Hugh DeLacey. About 100 years later, the land passed to the Deese family, who continued in ownership until the late 19th\early 20th century. I wonder if this family was related to one of the Laois septs.
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Tyrone / Re: James Turbitt shoemaker from Cormore townland or Ballygawley
« on: Sunday 19 June 16 02:09 BST (UK) »
Thanks for your reply.
I know the description shoemaker/Cormore or Ballygawley is rather vague but I have run out of leads and was hoping that this approach might ring a bell somewhere.
I know the description shoemaker/Cormore or Ballygawley is rather vague but I have run out of leads and was hoping that this approach might ring a bell somewhere.
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Armed Forces / Re: Kings Own Scottish Borderers, 25th regiment foot
« on: Sunday 19 June 16 02:06 BST (UK) »
Thanks Ken.
I have quite a lot of information about individual Turbitts (various spellings) in both the Clogher and Errigal Keerogue parishs of Couty Tyrone, and of course about the descendants of my great-grandparents since 1864. The problem has been to connect individuals named in the Griffith's valuations with their families prior to the 1901 census and existing BDM records, wills etc. are only partially informative, hence, I was hoping that military records might fill in the gaps with information about next of kin.
I will keep trying!
I have quite a lot of information about individual Turbitts (various spellings) in both the Clogher and Errigal Keerogue parishs of Couty Tyrone, and of course about the descendants of my great-grandparents since 1864. The problem has been to connect individuals named in the Griffith's valuations with their families prior to the 1901 census and existing BDM records, wills etc. are only partially informative, hence, I was hoping that military records might fill in the gaps with information about next of kin.
I will keep trying!
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Armed Forces / Re: Kings Own Scottish Borderers, 25th regiment foot
« on: Wednesday 15 June 16 05:45 BST (UK) »
Thanks a lot Ken - I will follow those leads.