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Hello maxD
Thanks for the reply and the link, i'll give it a try now.
Thanks
issy

Sorry everyone who replied and did such a lot of work on my question of John Kirkpatrick and Elizabeth Begg.  I was a bit over whelmed by the response and it has taken me a while to get my head round it all. Although I have a lot more to find out including some suggestions on here, here is what I have so far, though some of the dates are a bit off.
1892 – Death - John Kirkpatrick, age 88?, (general labourer), born Troqueer 1808?, widower of Elizabeth Begg, son of Denholm Kirkpatrick (carter) and Mary Edgar, informant Denholm Kirkpatrick, son.
1889 – Death - Elizabeth Kirkpatrick, age 86?, married to John Kirkpatrick (general labourer), daughter of Martin Beggs (millwright) and Ann Beggs m.s. Caven, informant Denholm Kirkpatrick, son.
1868 – Marriage - William Kirkpatrick (age 20?) son of John Kirkpatrick and Elizabeth Kirkpatrick m.s. Beg, to Margaret Graham (age 22) daughter of David Graham and Jane Graham m.s. Nesbit at Ardwall, New Abbey. Witness David Graham and ............Dobie. (SP) 1863 – Anne Kirkpatrick husband Thomas Bennet daughter Elizabeth Begg Bennet, Kirkbean. (FS)
1862 – Ann Kirkpatrick married Thomas Benet, Kirkbean. (FS)
1861 – Census - William kirkpatrick at Wreaths, Kirkbean, Southerness.
John Kirkpatrick age 54, ag lab, Troqueer

Eliza age 55, ag lab's wife, Isle of Man

Ann age 23, ag lab, Kirkpatrick

Robt age 15, scholar, Kirkbean

William age 11, scholar, Kirkbean (SP)

1855 – Death - Ann Begg m.s. Caven, age 83 at Buitle?, Kirkpatrick Durham. Father Robert? Caven married to Elizabeth Caven m.s. Orr. Husband Martin Begg, Millwright (Deceased).

    Elizabeth 48

    Mary 32

    Helen Dec

    John Dec. . 2

    John Dec. . 9 months

    James Dec. . 3 months

Church yard Kirkpatrick Durham, reported by Elizabeth Begg, daughter.

1855 – Death - Begg Martin, age 82. Son of Martin Begg (millwright?) and mother Mary Begg m.s. Milligan. Married to Ann Caven.

1. Elizabeth 48

2. Mary 32

3. Helen Dec

4. John Dec. . 2

5. John Dec. . 9 months

6. James Dec. . 3 months

Church yard kirkpatrick Durham, reported by Elizabeth Begg, daughter.

1851 – Census – John Kirkpatrick, age 41, ploughman, Troqueer. (SP &FS)

Elisabeth, age 42, Kirkpatrick. (SP?)

Ann, age 14, Kirkpatrick. (SP & FS)

David, age 12, Kirkpatrick. (SP & FS)

Lewis, age 10, Kirkpatrick. (Sp & FS)

Denholm, age 8, Kirkbean. (SP)

Martin, age 5, Kirkbean. (SP & FS)

Robert, age 4, Kirkbean. (SP)

William, age 1, Kirkbean. (SP)

1849 – Baptism on 09/12/1849 of William MartinKirkpatrick born 14/11/1849 lawful son of John Kirkpatrick & Elizabeth Begg at Durham, Kirkbean by Rev ...... Grierson. (SP)

1847 – Birth – Robert Smith Kirkpatrick to Elisabeth Begg and John Kirkpatrick at Kirkbean (FS).

1843 - Birth – Denholm Kirkpatrick to Elisabeth Begg and John Kirkpatrick at Kirkbean. (SP & FS).

1841 – Census - Ann Kirkpatrick, Kirkpatrick Durham. Village/s ?

John Kirkpatrick, age 31, ag lab.

Elisabeth, age 30/32 Isle of Man

John, age 9 (SP & FS)

Ann, age 4 1/2 (SP & FS)

David, age 2 1/2 (SP &FS)

Lewis, age 6 months (SP & FS)

1809 – Burials – Mary Begg 01/01/1809 at Malew. Mary daughter of Martin. (Isle of Man)

1808 – Born - John Kirkpatrick son of Denholm Kirkpatrick and Mary Edgar Baptised 22/06/1808 (SP).

1808 - Baptism – John Begg 10/01/1808 at Malew son of Martin Begg and Ann Cavins. (Isle of Man).

Thanks for all the support and sorry to be long winded, I still have other things to look into. I can see this taking a while yet as I've still only got the one marriage for such a big family.

Regards

issy

Hope some one can help I'm stuck with this couple John Kirkpatrick and Elizabeth Begg who are the parents on the marriage certificate of William Kirkpatrick who married Margaret Graham in 1868 at Ardwall, New Abbey. I have found various birth dates and various different places of birth for them and I may have them in the 1841 and 1851 census's in Kirkpatrick-Durham and Kirkbean, they may have had 8 children but I cannot find a marriage certificate or banns for the couple so don't feel I can verify anything. I have tried Scotlands People, Find My Past and Latter Day Saints but had no luck on any sites on their marriage. I have checked and re-checked all my other information leading back to 1968 it all appears correct. For months I have kept coming back to this couple and tried different approaches but to no avail and it's costing a fortune, I'm just about ready to give up.

Any help, hints, tips will be gratefully appreciated.

Regards

issy

Thanks for the reply's, but I'm no further forward.
On the certificate in the column where it say's at the top of the page "When, Where, and How Married", it mentions a couple of names and "Police Constable residing", as in perhaps - present.
Then in the 'witness' column it say's "Warrant of Sheriff Substitute of Ayrshire".
I assume by this that it was an 'Irregular Marriage'. I just wanted clarification on what this would mean?

Thanks

Hello Bev
Thanks for taking the time to reply. My relatives (Kirkpatrick) seem to be more around the Terregles , Kirkgunzeon, Logan and West Cost area's of Scotland. I've got as far back as early 1800s but had to leave it there for a bit just been to busy. Hope to get back to it soon though it's a great hobby full of twists and turns.

Thanks again for your time and good luck with your searches.

issy