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Perhaps you do need to purchase Lucy's birth certificate to confirm or refute our assumptions. I'm assuming that it is still your aim to ascertain her parentage. I can't readily see a baptism for her, certainly via the Church of England records available on FindMyPast and Ancestry.Thanks, will have to do when I get the chance.
Found her!Oh that's sad
Burial - Howden - 16 July 1850 - Rachel wife of Mark Nutbrowne - 36
Burial - Howden - 16 July 1850 - David son of Mark Nutbrowne - infant
How sad!
Hey!!!!Now that is really awesome!
Marriage - Howden - 25 November 1843 - by Banns
George Holmes, full age, widower, Labourer. Father: ------
Rachel Holmes, full age, spinster. Father: William, Labourer
So: Martha was Rachel's child before marriage. William, Solomon and probably Ann, after marriage.
Fine, I'll keep looking.I have seen that, but I didn't notice the no relationships in the 1841 census. So it's likely that she died between those dates.
A bit more information for you, which you may or may not have:
1841 Census - Hooton Pagnell, Yorkshire - HO107/1327/12 folio 9, page 12
Mary Holmes - 60 - born in Yorkshire
Martha Holmes - 3 - born in Yorkshire
So this could be Martha's grandmother - no relationships are shown in 1841.
I've had a look at the 1851 census return where Martha (14 - born Hooton Pagnell), William (7 - born Howden), Solomon (5 - born Howden) and Ann (3 - born Howden) are all in the Union Workhouse in Howden.
From the new GRO facility, I have found William with mmn of Holmes and Solomon with mmn of Holmes, both registered in Howden District. I cannot see Ann at this moment. A possible for Martha, registered December quarter 1837 in the Doncaster District - no mother's maiden name given.
OK, so you're now looking for William Holmes, born 1844 in the Howden area.
I'm confused by your latest post - "something just happened to him not too long after her birth" - do you mean William Morcombe? Whose death are you looking for?
Lucy is noted as having the surname of Holmes on the 1871 census, not Morcombe. She might be William's daughter, or she might not.
You know that William Morcombe and Martha Holmes were married in 1863, and you know that John and Charles Morcombe have mother's maiden name of Holmes when their births were registered - after the marriage.
The addition of mmn was from my looking at GRO - that doesn't appear on the actual census entry.
15 June 1863 - Christ Church, Doncaster - by Banns
William Sivel Morcombe, 22, bachelor, Engine Fitter. Father: William, Shoemaker
Martha Holmes, 23, spinster. Father: George, Surveyor
The marriage also took place prior to Lucy's birth in 1864, which I think would rule out Martha being Lucy's mother, apart from Lucy's mother's maiden name was Reynolds.
Is this the family you were looking at in 1871?Yep that's the one, I didn't see the version with the Reynolds afterward. I'm on mobile and some of it hard to use (first time with it, sorry!).
RG10/4717 folio 82, page 14
Orchard Street, Doncaster
William Morcombe - 30 - born Devonshire
Martha - 29 - born Doncaster
Lucy Holmes - 8 - (mmn Reynolds)
John Morcombe - 7 - (mmn Holmes)
Charles Morcombe - 5 - (mmn Holmes)
