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Northumberland / Re: Searching for John Alder of Norham who died about 1840
« on: Thursday 23 April 15 12:08 BST (UK)  »
No Alder baptisms at Norham Presbyterian or Associated Congregation of Norham.  2 Elder baptisms but they were in the 1780's

There was an Alder family from Norham having children baptised in Spittal Presbyterian but no John Alder born around 1815 or so.  One in 1830.

Nothing in Cornhill.  Folks that lived in Norham used this parish sometimes.

Janis

Thanks, Janis. Apologies for my delay in responding. I'm a relative newcomer to genealogy, and after talking to a genealogist here in the States (who is also a distant relative), and re-reading some of the old family charts that I have in my possession, I have learned that the father of John Lewis Alder may have actually been named William. It *might* be possible that they were once Catholic, but it's difficult to know for sure. John Lewis Alder married a Catholic French woman in the U.S., after he arrived here. The Alder family seemed to become Presbyterian during the time of John Lewis Alder's son, who was baptized Catholic, but who married into a New England Presbyterian family. Apparently, both John Lewis Alder and his father (who may have been named William) had no siblings. I find it a bit odd that neither of them had siblings, so I will believe that when I know more.

Again, thank you for responding to my earlier search.

Sincerely, Jon

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Northumberland / Re: Searching for John Alder of Norham who died about 1840
« on: Thursday 05 March 15 13:34 GMT (UK)  »
Sounds like I also need to set up an account at findmypast.
They have a free weekend from Friday this week   ;D

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=714676.0
Thanks for letting me know!

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Northumberland / Re: Searching for John Alder of Norham who died about 1840
« on: Wednesday 04 March 15 23:32 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

Welcome to RootsChat  :)


It looks like this John deserted, from "Army Deserters 1828-1840" at FindMyPast,


John ALDER
Age:  25
Birth year:  1815
Birth town:  Norham,  Durham
Summary:  98th Foot; 25; Norham; Durham; Carpenter; 27 Jul 1840


I found this burial  in Wisconsin but it doesn't mention a middle name.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=82960362&ref=acom

Where does the middle name of Lewis come from and why do you think he was born in Norham?

Regards,
Daisy

Hi again, Daisy.
Was there any other information accompanying the desertion info that you mentioned (familial info)? I am really curious to know if this was, in fact, my 4x-great grandfather. It might make some sense, considering that he never returned to England, and that he signed up to fight in the American Civil War when he was 45 (possibly to make up for having left the army previously?). Who knows? Sounds like I also need to set up an account at findmypast.

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Northumberland / Re: Searching for John Alder of Norham who died about 1840
« on: Tuesday 03 March 15 23:00 GMT (UK)  »
They are the index numbers you need to quote when ordering a certificate from the GRO - General Register Office.

https://www.gro.gov.uk
Thank you.

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Northumberland / Re: Searching for John Alder of Norham who died about 1840
« on: Tuesday 03 March 15 22:56 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

Welcome to RootsChat  :)


It looks like this John deserted, from "Army Deserters 1828-1840" at FindMyPast,


John ALDER
Age:  25
Birth year:  1815
Birth town:  Norham,  Durham
Summary:  98th Foot; 25; Norham; Durham; Carpenter; 27 Jul 1840


I found this burial  in Wisconsin but it doesn't mention a middle name.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=82960362&ref=acom

Where does the middle name of Lewis come from and why do you think he was born in Norham?

Regards,
Daisy
Hi, Daisy.
I am not sure where the middle name, Lewis, originates, but I acquired that information from the family charts that my great grandfather (the grandson of John Lewis Alder) filled out in the 1930s.

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Northumberland / Re: Searching for John Alder of Norham who died about 1840
« on: Tuesday 03 March 15 22:52 GMT (UK)  »
Oh yes, I noticed that but I wondered how/why Bert, the original poster, thought this was the John Lewis ALDER that he is researching :-\
Hi, again, Daisypetal.
Actually, I am trying to track down information on the father (and English family) of John Lewis Alder, though any new information that I find about John Lewis Alder along the way is appreciated, too.

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Northumberland / Re: Searching for John Alder of Norham who died about 1840
« on: Tuesday 03 March 15 22:20 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

Welcome to RootsChat  :)


It looks like this John deserted, from "Army Deserters 1828-1840" at FindMyPast,


John ALDER
Age:  25
Birth year:  1815
Birth town:  Norham,  Durham
Summary:  98th Foot; 25; Norham; Durham; Carpenter; 27 Jul 1840


I found this burial  in Wisconsin but it doesn't mention a middle name.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=82960362&ref=acom

Where does the middle name of Lewis come from and why do you think he was born in Norham?

Regards,
Daisy
Hi, Daisy.
Thanks for the tip. I will definitely check this out. Since I don't know much about his past, I have no idea whether or not this is also him. Very interesting.
Best,
Jon

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Northumberland / Re: Searching for John Alder of Norham who died about 1840
« on: Tuesday 03 March 15 22:08 GMT (UK)  »
Welcome to Rootschat

This is the only death I can find that might fit.

Deaths Sep 1841   
ALDER    John        Tynemouth    25   753


How do you know that his name was John?
Hello, and thanks for responding. I am curious to know what the two numbers mean that follow Tynemouth.

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Northumberland / Re: Searching for John Alder of Norham who died about 1840
« on: Tuesday 03 March 15 20:43 GMT (UK)  »
Sorry jeaves I should have said  'Welcome to rootschat'  :)

Does his Army record have his full name. Is it available to view online.

Rosie
Hi, Rosie.
I could email you the whole enlistment document that was sent to me by a friend the other day. The doc is too large to upload on this thread, unfortunately (2.3MB). Attached is the line with his name. I do believe that this is the same John Lewis Alder who came to the Caribbean in the military, and then moved to Buffalo, NY and married Marie Antoinette Rossenbach (Rosenbach), though his middle name is not on the document. They then moved to Eastman, Wisconsin, and started a family. His son, John William Alder, joined the Union Army to fight in the Civil War, and John Lewis also joined. Both survived. John William was my grandfather's grandfather.
-Jon

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