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Gloucestershire / Re: MOTT - Cheltenham
« on: Monday 05 September 16 22:38 BST (UK)  »
Hi Jayne!
I've just discovered how to send you a reply (and my email address) in private message format. Let me know if there's any probs with reading.
Great to be in touch!!
Best wishes
Katharine

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The Common Room / Re: Ada Louisa Selwood/ Williams b 1870 Cheltenham
« on: Tuesday 30 August 16 21:03 BST (UK)  »
 Hi Annette, thanks for the congrats!
Yes, that's right. Although she was never married to (William) James Hopton she married Mr Cale calling herself Hopton. She had quite a collection of last names in her life :)

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The Common Room / Re: Ada Louisa Selwood/ Williams b 1870 Cheltenham
« on: Monday 29 August 16 22:16 BST (UK)  »
Thanks both!! Hi Milliepede, glad I was able to thank you!
You should have heard the loud 'Yes!!' when I found her burial record in Birmingham Library! Lol !

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Gloucestershire / Re: MOTT - Cheltenham
« on: Monday 29 August 16 22:01 BST (UK)  »
Hello Spriggy
We are, in a way, related! Your husband's great grandmother Louisa was an elder sister to my great great grandfather- William Mott. He was William Richard Mott born 1856, baptised 11th May St. Mary's Cheltenham. He doesn't appear to be aware of his real age at various points in his life (he gives slightly differing ages e.g. on enlistment) so I think that might have thrown some of the other contributors to this thread.
William Mott's story is an interesting one. He fathered a child with my great great grandmother Ada Louise Selwood in Birmingham. Their daughter Eva Lizzie Selwood was born in March 1892. She was illegitimate and spent the rest of her life trying to cover up this fact... she never told any of her descendants i.e. my granny or my mum where she came from. It's take me about 13 years on and off to figure out what became of her mother Ada- it's been a real labour of love because she used different surnames.

It's brilliant to find someone else who is connected with all this! Dare I ask... do you have any Mott family photos? We have nothing  :(  I would be overjoyed if you, or anyone else reading this, has any photos, letters or ANYTHING(!!) to do with the Motts.

Best wishes,
Katharine

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The Common Room / Re: Ada Louisa Selwood/ Williams b 1870 Cheltenham
« on: Monday 29 August 16 21:06 BST (UK)  »
CASE CLOSED! After over a decade of searching....

I am pleased to say that I have 'FOUND' my great great grandmother, born Ada Louise/a Selwood 1870, Cheltenham. She died as ' Ada Louise Cale' in Selly Oak Hospital, Birmingham, on 17th August 1938.
And just the other day I discovered her last resting place and went to visit her grave, on the 78th anniversary of her death.

If anyone reading this happens to be one of the old posters to this thread then I just want to thank you very much!

Now... for the task of attempting to find anyone who had any contact with Ada and whether there are any photos or anything out there (we have none). I'll be posting one or more pleas on the subject. Nellie Cowley (previous name Hackley) nee Nicholas was the sole recipient in Ada's will (granted 5th Sept 1938) they were great friends and lived together at 5 Cromer Road, Balsall Heath. So I'm most keen to hear of any living relatives of Nellie's first, for any potential ephemera....           Thanks for reading!

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The Common Room / Re: Ada Louisa Selwood/ Williams b 1870 Cheltenham
« on: Monday 03 August 15 22:53 BST (UK)  »
Hi again!
Right, so... after some further sleuthing by my husband... we've double checked Bertie and Ada L Willams from those Birmingham electoral registers and ... it's definitely the wrong couple.

This Ada was born a Timmins in 1895, married a Hodges who then died, and then married Bertie Williams. This was all figured out by working out the relationships between Bertie and Ada and the others listed in the household in the 1950 electoral register.

The case continues....!!

Best,
katkingreen 

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The Common Room / Re: Ada Louisa Selwood/ Williams b 1870 Cheltenham
« on: Monday 03 August 15 11:52 BST (UK)  »
Naming her father as Robert Selwood was her first step to covering up her past. He simply did not exist. She even said he was a deceased clerk or something similar.
By the way, I know Ada didn't go back to William Mott (father of her child) after her marriage broke up. William was with a Nellie Bayliss by then and he had children by her. (Actually at my last count he had children with 4 different women in his lifetime). He was with Nellie til his death in 1909.
K

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The Common Room / Re: Ada Louisa Selwood/ Williams b 1870 Cheltenham
« on: Monday 03 August 15 11:36 BST (UK)  »
Hi everyone
Need all the help I can get with this, so thanks for your contributions. Sadly going down the route of death informant   doesn't help. Was a good idea though. James' death was registered by wife Emma in 1878, whilst I've still got tabs on Ada. Emma's was 1894 registered by daughter Elizabeth. Elizabeth's was registered in 1912 by her neice/ Ada's daughter Eva. (The probate to Frank Norman is interesting, on a side note. He became Eva's guardian. He's not a relative though).

Re the Bertie Williams result, I remember there being some sort of problem with this. I don't have a note on
it though, I'll check it again this eve when I have more time.

Thanks everyone
katkingreen

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The Common Room / Re: Ada Louisa Selwood/ Williams b 1870 Cheltenham
« on: Sunday 02 August 15 22:59 BST (UK)  »
Yes, sorry- she was born on 7th April 1870 at 11 Worcester Street, Cheltenham. Yes, I'm pretty sure that is the right death date for that 1911 James Hopton.
K

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