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Kerry / Re: Kennelly / Enright from Ballylongford 1850-1880's
« on: Monday 20 February 17 16:29 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Catherine,

Yes. way too many common names and very confusing. I think we should just label everyone a cousin and leave it at that.

Terry

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Kerry / Re: Kennelly / Enright from Ballylongford 1850-1880's
« on: Friday 10 February 17 14:45 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Maggsie,

I guess we are some form of distant cousins.

i know a lot of the Kennelly Enright families went to the Philadelphia, Pennsylvania area and then later spread out to surrounding states (NY, NJ,IL) and to Ontario.

I have come across records for other Enrights in Ontario but have never been able to directly connect them to the family.

I also know there is another large family of Kennellys in Ontario that came here about 30 years prior to my Kennelly family arriving, once again not sure of the connection.

Terry

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Banffshire / Re: Jessie Morrison born in Aberchirder 1869
« on: Friday 10 February 17 13:31 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Forfarian,

I have seen a lot of spelling variations over the years so I try not to read too much into them.

You are correct the census would not give the date of birth,  the ABT 1870 came from the transcriber.

On the official registration it just has South Street, Aberchirder.

William found a newspaper advertisement where a John Morrison was selling his property on South Street in 1869. on the Scotslandpeoples site the 1865 valuation rolls has a John Morrison as Proprietor Occupier of House, Milk House, Barn and Brye, South Street Aberchirder.

Thanks for the link to the Ancestry vs ScotslandPeople discussion. I do prefer to research in Scotslandpeople but due to the expense I use Ancestry or Familysearch for initial research.

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Banffshire / Re: Jessie Morrison born in Aberchirder 1869
« on: Thursday 09 February 17 20:27 GMT (UK)  »
Hi William,

Adding to my confusion, not only are there multiple Jessie and John Morrisons to sort out, there are also multiple Alexander Morrisons.

My understanding is there was Alexander Morrison (Farmer) married to Jane Milne.
Their son was Alexander Morrison (master mason) married to Elizabeth Joss
And their sons were Alexander Morrison (Mason) and John Morrison (carpenter.)

Reading your posting makes it sound like Alexander the master mason became a farmer (inherited the farm?) or could he have been both mason and farmer?

I found the references about the sale of the premises and fittings to be interesting as it appears John Morrison leaves the area around then. Were the premises on South Street?

I’ll follow up on the Canadian records, I did take a quick look at the online Manitoba records but they did not have a lot of details on them.

Just to add to the confusion, my great grandmother was living in Belleville Ontario in 1890. I discovered that In 1880 another Jessie Morrison (also born in Scotland in 1869) was sent to Belleville as a British Home child. I can find her in the passenger lists just not by great-grandmother.

So I had to sort out multiple Jessie Morrisons in Scotland and in Ontario.

Thanks again.

Terry

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Banffshire / Re: Jessie Morrison born in Aberchirder 1869
« on: Thursday 09 February 17 16:15 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Ev and William,

I do believe she may related to that family.

In the 1851 census the family is listed as Morison, the father is Alexander and there is a Alexander and John listed as sons.

In the 1861 census Alexander is not listed at home only John.

Jessie is born in 1869 and in the 1871 census there is a Jessie Morrison (born in Marnoch abt 1870) listed as a niece with Alexander and Helen Morrison.

In the 1881 census Alexander and Helen Morrison now have more children of their own however there is no niece listed. However, in the 1881 census there is now a granddaughter Jessie Morrison (born Marnoch abt 1870) living with the senior Alexander Morrison.

I think the difference in the years may be due to rounding due to when the census was taken and her birthday being in November.

It is a good possibility that is the family, I just can't find any secondary records to confirm it and there are many Jessie and John Morrisons to choose from.

William, I had considered that perhaps John Morrison was a carpenter on a ship.  Your posting of John Morrison being born in Macduff in 1845 would tie him into that family.

Thanks again.

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Kerry / Re: Kennelly / Enright from Ballylongford 1850-1880's
« on: Thursday 09 February 17 14:59 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you aghadowey for the tip on linking directly.

I have mainly searched the church records and not the civil records.  I will try the links you provided.

Thanks again.

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Banffshire / Jessie Morrison born in Aberchirder 1869
« on: Thursday 09 February 17 14:32 GMT (UK)  »
I am researching my great grandmother Jessie Morrison. She was born November 17th 1869, the illegitimate daughter of John Morrison (a carpenter) and Jessie Fleming (a domestic servant). She was born on South Street, Aberchirder, and the birth was registered on Dec 6th at St Marnoch, Marnoch, Banff. Both parents signatures are on the registration.

I have researched the records at Ancestry.com and some at Scotlandspeople.gov.uk and it appears Jessie Morrison was a common name at the time.  I can confirm this is my grandmother as her marriage certificate lists them as her parents, her birthday was November 17th and my father remembers her speaking of  a “Fergieloen”? which I finally figured out was Foggieloan.

My great grandmother immigrated to Canada prior to 1890, (I can trace her from 1890 on, just not from 1869 to 1890.)

Any information on the Morrison families in the area at the time would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

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Kerry / Kennelly / Enright from Ballylongford 1850-1880's
« on: Thursday 09 February 17 13:54 GMT (UK)  »
I’m researching my great grandparents from county Kerry, Martin Kennelly (b1855) and Ellen Enright (b.1858.)

I believe Ellen was from Ballylongford and Martin was Ballybunion?

Martin’s parents were James Kennelly and Margaret Diggon . Ellen’s parents were John Enright and Margaret Irving.  I believe they each had several siblings but I cannot not tell from the church records who were directly related. Ellen may have had a brother John J. Enright.

This is what I have found and can “partially confirm” the information with other records. In some cases the birth years may be off by one year, and there may be a variation on the name. The birth year being off could be due to some of the other records I am comparing to are approximated ages. Names can either be transcription errors or a preference to go another name or by a middle name?

Name   MARTIN KENNELLY
Date of Birth   4 July 1855 (BASED ON OTHER DATE INFORMATION)
Address   BALLYCONERY
Father   JAMES KENNELLY
Mother   MARGARET DIGGIN
Further details in the record
Father Occupation   NR
Sponsor 1   PATRICK GRIFFIN
Sponsor 2   MARGARET GRIFFIN
Priest   REV.M.MCMAHON
About the record
Book Number   Page   Entry Number   Record_Identifier
N/R    447    N/R    KY-RC-BA-38918

They had the following children in Ireland before immigrating to Canada in 1883.

Name   JAMES KENNELLY
Date of Birth   25 March 1877
Address   BALLYLINE
Father   MARTIN KENNELLY
Mother   HELEN ENRIGHT
Further details in the record
Father Occupation   NR
Sponsor 1   JOHN ENRIGHT
Sponsor 2   MARGARET ENRIGHT
Priest   REV.M.O'SULLIVAN
   
About the record
Book Number   Page   Entry Number   Record_Identifier
N/R    62    N/R    KY-RC-BA-76463
 It says Helen and not Ellen but they did have a son James in 1877 or 1878?.

Name   JOHN KENNELLY
Date of Birth   1 December 1878
Address   TARBERT
Father   MARTIN KENNELLY
Mother   ELLEN ENRIGHT
Further details in the record
Father Occupation   NR
Sponsor 1   JOHN KENNELLY
Sponsor 2   JOANNA ENRIGHT
Priest   (NO ENTRY)
About the record
Book Number   Page   Entry Number   Record_Identifier
1    N/R    100    KY-RC-BA-441713

Name   MARGARET KENNELLY
Date of Birth   16 April 1881
Address   SALLOWGLIN
Father   MARTIN KENNELLY
Mother   ELLEN ENRIGHT
Further details in the record
Father Occupation   NR
Sponsor 1   JAMES KENNELLY
Sponsor 2   MARY ENRIGHT
Priest   (NO ENTRY)

About the record
Book Number   Page   Entry Number   Record_Identifier
1    N/R    111    KY-RC-BA-441904


         
Name   BRIDGET KENNELLY
Date of Birth   3 February 1883
Address   SALLOWGLIN
Father   MARTIN KENNELLY
Mother   ELLEN ENRIGHT
Further details in the record
Father Occupation   NR
Sponsor 1   JAMES MCMAHON
Sponsor 2   MARGARET MCMAHON
Priest   (NO ENTRY)
About the record
Book Number   Page   Entry Number   Record_Identifier
1    N/R    120    KY-RC-BA-442048

“Bridget” was Bertha Claudius (Bert)

I have this record but I am not sure it is them.
Husband   Wife
Name   MARTIN KENNELLY    JOHANNA ENRIGHT
Address   BALLYLINE    BALLYLONGFORD
Occupation   NR    NR
Father   JAMES KENNELLY    JOHN ENRIGHT
Mother   HELEN DIGGINS    MARGARET LEYNE
Further details in the record
Priest   REV.M.O'SULLIVAN
Husband's Father's Occupation   NR

I assumed as they probably worked as farm labour that a change in location every few years would not be unusual?

If anyone has further information on the Kennellys or Enrights in the Ballylongford area it would be appreciated.

Thanks
Terry

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Moray (Elginshire) / Re: My Banffshire Surnames
« on: Wednesday 08 February 17 04:10 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Elaine,

How much information to you have on the family?
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Alexander (b1811) married Elizabeth JOSS (b circa 1815 Aberdeen) in 1840 at Old Machar, Aberdeen. They had 9 children -
Jean b circa 1842 Old Machar, Jane  b circa 1843 Old Machar, John b 1844 Gamrie, James b circa 1847 Gamrie, Robert b 1848 Gamrie, Isabella b 1850 Gamrie , Mary b 1855 Gamrie, William b 1859 Marnoch and Elizabeth b 1862 Marnoch.
The 1851 Census has the family living in Macduff. The 1861, 71 and 81 Census has them at Brokenfolds, Marnoch. Alexander's occupation - Master Mason.

I am researching my great grandmother Jessie Morrison born 1869 in Aberchirder to John Morrison (carpenter) and Jessie Fleming (domestic servant.)

In the 1871 census there is a Jessie Morrison listed as a niece living with Alexander Morrison (Jr) (The 1851 census shows there was also a son named Alexander in the family.) In the 1881 census Jessie is listed as a granddaughter living with Alexander (Sr).

I can't find a Jessie Morrison with the family in 1891 however by 1890 my great grandmother emigrated to Canada.

Do you have any information on the John Morrison in the family?

Thank you    Terry

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