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On both censuses it states that his father is Thomas Hibbert and mother Mary Hibbert nee Riley.
Relationships on the census are how they are related to the head of the household, ie Thomas
Do you have the marriage certificate to Mary
I have someone sending a copy over when they find it, however I think it may says widower which is where people have Mary Jane Stephenson. But I am just guessing
There is also a Frances Hibbert born and died 1867 Manchester with mothers name Stevenson.
Could be theirs.
Thanks I will follow this up.
Baptism record is from the same church that his children with Riley are baptised in.
21 July 1867 baptism took place
Living in George St and he is a labourer.
Mother: Mary Jane.
Very possible
QuoteBaptism record is from the same church that his children with Riley are baptised in.
No doubt you have already looked back to the time Frederick was born for a baptism there.
You can't help feeling Mary Jane Stephenson was his mother (Frederick) can you but ?
There is also a Frances Hibbert born and died 1867 Manchester with mothers name Stevenson.
Could be theirs.
Thanks I will follow this up.
There is also a Frances Hibbert born and died 1867 Manchester with mothers name Stevenson.
Could be theirs.
Mary Jane Hibbert death Manchester Jun 1868 age 20.
So that could be his first wife.
Doesn't help with a birth for Frederick but hopefully will sort the marriages/wives out.
1891 has his place of birth as Newton Heath living at 53, Parker Street, Bradford cum Beswick,
RG12/3257 f21 p35