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Sligo / Re: Jeremiah Wallace of Easky
« on: Wednesday 07 April 21 07:55 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Linda.

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Sligo / Re: Jeremiah Wallace of Easky
« on: Wednesday 07 April 21 01:05 BST (UK)  »
Hi Linda.

Robert Nairne - 1st Lord Nairne, married Margaret Graham, daughter of Graham of Inchbrakie.

regards, Kerry

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Sligo / Re: Jeremiah Wallace of Easky
« on: Wednesday 07 April 21 00:15 BST (UK)  »
Hi Linda.

Thank you for your very informative and detailed reply.

Im not a very scientific person, so i find the whole Dna thing pretty complicated at times.I think i will probably end up doing both an Autosomal & Y test, maybe just the 37 Marker Test instead of the more expensive 111 Marker Test.

One of my Irish born Great Uncles, Robert Nairn 1896 - 1965 , born in Co Meath, who came out to N.Z in 1922 apparently always claimed that our branch of Nairns were related to the ''Lords Nairne''.I never knew Robert , but i did know his Son,& he told me that his Father was always Adamant about that.I have a copy of a letter Robert wrote to his Nephew in England from 1955, claiming this connection.
My research hasnt turned up anything or even a hint of anything as the Irish records pre 1800 are almost non existent ! I guess its possible ? , the ''Lords Nairne''of Strathord,Perthshire were Jacobites & were Persecuted by the English for thier active involvement in the jacobite rebellions , 1715,1745 .Its a ''riches to rags'' story ,where they had their estates confiscated and were almost reduced to poverty . After the battle of  Culloden, 1746 they were Banished to France.My Great Uncle claims some of the Family also fled to Ireland at that time, and the earliest record of Nairns in Co Sligo to be found is 1749, just 3 years after Culloden, so who knows, maybe one day it could be confirmed through Dna ? 
One of that Family (Lords Nairne) married a Daughter ,of Graham of Inchbrakie, Scotland from memory.

regards, Kerry.


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Sligo / Re: Jeremiah Wallace of Easky
« on: Tuesday 06 April 21 07:40 BST (UK)  »
Hi Linda.
Thanks for your reply.

So your saying an Autosomal Test would be the correct test for me ? to try and determine whether for example William Nairn ,1814 - 1899 , Farmer of Ballisodare, Co Sligo is my 3x gt Grandfather ?.Id like to try and get Nairn Surname matches further back into Scotland if possible.

Maurice Gleeson talking about the Y Dna Tests mentions BIT (break in Transmission) ie through Illegitimacy, that are not at all uncommon.So for example if my Great Grandfathers Father was a McCallum for instance (Could well be ?) i would only get the McCallum line Dna ? and nothing for the Nairn Surname ?Would a Y-Dna Test, show matches to Nairns Further back ? or not at all ?

regards, Kerry.
 

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Sligo / Re: Jeremiah Wallace of Easky
« on: Sunday 04 April 21 08:45 BST (UK)  »
Hi.

Im thinking about doing the FTDNA Y - Dna 111 Test, which isnt cheap ! , You mentioned a Test for $49.00 US  is that a Y - Dna ?

Id recommend watching Dr Maurice Gleesons utube Videos on using Dna To Trace Ancestors.I found he explains it well & its easy to Follow.One video is ''Using Y- Dna to research your Surname'' & ''interpreting your Y-Dna results''.
Dr Gleeson mentions the need to be prepared to ''follow the paper Trail'' for 3 or 4 generations between Matches if necessary, & if possible !

I now have a relatively good knowledge of different Branches of the Scottish Nairns, often named in Scotland as ie, John Nairn of Greenyards, Alexander Nairn of Sandford,  William Nairn of Strathord, etc etc, so if i was able to get a Match to one of these, that would be great ! , but may be Wishful thinking on my part ?


Guess who ''Scot Irish'' is ? & the other funny bit ! Where he lives.Thats right you quessed it, Auckland.

Regards, Kerry

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Sligo / Re: Jeremiah Wallace of Easky
« on: Sunday 04 April 21 02:29 BST (UK)  »
Hi.

Just remembered the Family that the Nairns seem to have married into several times was BROWN. Also the MULLENS.

William Nairn, 1824 - 1904, Farmer of Kilmacowen married 1. MARY ANN JOHNSTONE of Drumcliffe in 1846, Protestant Family,10 Children.
He married 2. HELEN BROWN of Kilmacowen in 1872, Catholic family , 10 Children.

Id be keen to hear of these Families in your Tree,if you have them.Could easily be a connection somewhere ?

regards, Kerry.


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Sligo / Re: Jeremiah Wallace of Easky
« on: Sunday 04 April 21 00:57 BST (UK)  »
Hi.
Do you mind me asking , what your Surname is ? and have you done a Y - Dna Test at all ?Im considering doing one.

The problem with my direct Nairn branch, is that my Great Grandfather, David John Nairn, was born illegitimate in Glasgow 1871.His Mothers Name on his birth certificate is MARY ANN NAIRN and she was from CO SLIGO, born abt 1832- 1835.I know this because she was also recorded at the same Glasgow address on the March 1871 census and her age on that is recorded as 36. So im assuming her Father was a Nairn of Co Sligo.There were at least 3 William Nairns living in Co Sligo during the 1800s, all Farmers.
David John Nairn was resident at the Nairn property in Springfield in June 1893,when he married ! This is significant for sure.The Main family at Springfield at the time were Parents, Thomas Nairn & ELIZABETH SPROULE , with 5 Children.I have a record for Thomas Nairn , born at Springfield in 1851.He had a sister, MARY ANN NAIRN, born at Springfield in 1846 ! If this is my Gt Gt Grandmother her date of birth is about ten years out ? unless she lied about her age on the Glasgow census for some reason ? The Parents of Thomas and Mary Ann Nairn were William Nairn , Farmer of Ballisodare who married  CATHERINE McKIM of Carrick Henry in 1846.This William Nairn may be my gt gt gt Grandfather ? and im thinking a Y - DNa Test may be able to determine this ? Although obviously the Y Chromosome wouldnt have been passed through Mary Ann Nairn.
It gets pretty complicated !  Im interested in the Y - test also as you can join Surname/clan Projects etc.
 Other Sligo Names that appear connected to the Nairns ,ie Marriages , witnesses etc, include , MERRICK , (John Nairn, Farmer of Kilmacowen , d. 1839, married Elizabeth Merrick in Ballisodare in 1818) IRWIN, ALLINGHAM, BEATTY, WOODLAND, McDONAGH, CURREN, amongst others.

The possible  Donegal link for these Families is interesting ! I have a Hearth Tax record , 1665, for a JOHN NEARNE living in the Townland of Tullyrap.Raphoe, Co Donegal, and im pretty sure there is also a SPROULE  in Donegal on the Hearth Tax records.

I would be interested in seeing your Sligo Tree if thats Ok with you ?

regards, Kerry

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Sligo / Re: Jeremiah Wallace of Easky
« on: Friday 02 April 21 03:57 BST (UK)  »
 Hi. Thats an interesting connection. I have Leslie & Percy Edmond Nairn & Isabella Black in one of my ''Nairns of Co Sligo Trees'' on Ancestry.com.

I have several Different ''Nairns of Co Sligo'' Trees. There were basically three or Four Nairn Families in the 19th c in Co Sligo, & apparently they were all related to one another, but finding out how is a mission !
William Nairn who married ANN WALLACE bef 1800, is basically the Oldest record i have of any Nairns in Co Sligo, apart from a John ''Nearon'' of Killoran who appears on the 1796 Flax growers list.Then there is the 1749 Elphin census record of two Nairn Families in the Townland of Kilmacowen.A John Nairn & wife , Protestant Farmers with two servants, and a ''Widow'' Nairn , Farmer with one child over 14.
The William Nairn who married ANN WALLACE bef 1800 , could possibly be the ''Child over 14'' in 1749 ?
Ive always wondered why in 1749 , John Nairn & wife had 2 servants, but No Children ? I would have thought, being Farmers they would have had as many Children as possible to work the Farm ? According to one Theory, they may have arrived in Co Sligo at that time having fled Scotland after Culloden in 1746.Some Nairns were Jacobites !, and Nairn/e is a Scottish Name. Another Sligo Nairn, reckons the Nairns arrived with William of Orange, ie abt 1690, & yet another reckons they arrived in Plantation times , firstly to Londonderry ? I think the ''Black'' Family in Co Sligo may have had connections to Northern Ireland ?

regards, Kerry 
 

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Sligo / Re: Jeremiah Wallace of Easky
« on: Wednesday 31 March 21 22:32 BST (UK)  »
 Hi There.
 
 Im looking at the WALLACES OF CO SLIGO , Ireland.

My Ancestor , William Nairn , bef 1800 d ? married an ANN WALLACE  , bef 1800 , d ?
They first appear as Farmers ? , living in the townland of Baroe , in Calry, on the outskirts of Sligo Town.
By 1805 they were living in the Townland of Carrowgobbadagh, Kilmacowen, Co Sligo.
They had at least 2 Children, William born in 1805 and Elizabeth born 1807.
The Surname Wallace seems to have later been adopted into the Nairn Families of County Sligo (Ballydrehid) as a Christian Name or middle name ,ie WALLACE Nairn of Ballydrehid  b. abt 1824 - d.1900 and this continued down the Family line where one of my Great uncles , born 1911 was James WALLACE Nairn.



Any help would be Appreciated.

regards , Kerry.


   

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