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Longford / Re: Alexander Forbes & Jane Williams
« on: Tuesday 15 October 19 22:29 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: hallmark on Tuesday 15 October 19 19:18 BST (UK)


No problem!

So...no g/stone there or at Ballymacormack!

Newtownforbes is online... haven't checked them!

I photographed the Old Newtownforbes graveyard and it is online but can't get onto http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ to look at Co Longford....Headstones for some reason!!

Kilashee C of I is online "omewhere"

Clonguish is one of the smallest Churches I've come across.... 99% sure no Cemetery there.


Ay Kew I had to look for "The Papers on the Settlement of Canada" so maybe there are "The Papers on the Settlement of South Africa" BUT they won't get you the Irish State papers submitted by  Scanlan.

Scanlan was only a bully-boy sideswipe who elbowed his way into this Settlement Program....but surely he must have had to submit papers for "his group"!!

Plus....did any who went back home from Cork look for refunds or funds to resettle from   Irish  CSO??

My lot who attended same Church are buried over 10km away from Longford..

Would love to see the photo's shout when they load :)

Who is Kilashee?

Scanlan sure was, sadly I read that the Settlers were never expected to make it, they say that they were used as buffers between the Xhosas and Boers.


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Longford / Re: Alexander Forbes & Jane Williams
« on: Tuesday 15 October 19 18:25 BST (UK)  »
 ;D Absolutely amazing thank you.

One step closer than we were you are brilliant !!!

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Longford / Re: Alexander Forbes & Jane Williams
« on: Monday 14 October 19 21:19 BST (UK)  »
 ;D
Thank you
Thank you
Thank you
Thank you  ;)

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Longford / Re: Alexander Forbes & Jane Williams
« on: Monday 14 October 19 20:14 BST (UK)  »
Alexander Forbes (1750) and Jane Williams (Born 1760)

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Longford / Re: Alexander Forbes & Jane Williams
« on: Monday 14 October 19 20:12 BST (UK)  »
Alexander Forbes (About 1792) and Jane Thomas (About 1805)

I cannot thank you enough :D


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Longford / Re: Alexander Forbes & Jane Williams
« on: Monday 14 October 19 19:55 BST (UK)  »
Alexander Forbes (1750) and Jane Williams (1760), their baptism and marriage certificates or registry and their parents. I have married 30/09/1780, Templemichael, Longford

Child 1: Alexander Forbes - Just the date of death and a picture of his death notice

He married Jane Thomas (1805) first married Alexander Forbes - Then married Simes

Alexander and Jane had Maria Forbes (My Forbes) (apparently he was married before he left to Elizabeth Clarke and they had a Son John - Some say they died before he left Ireland and others say there is no record of them?)

Maria Forbes (05/05/1827) married William Henry Holder  (Leader of the 1820 Holders Party)

They had Sarah Ann Holder (17/10/1849) - Married Edward James Sterley (Sturley)

They had Harold Henry Sterley (26/07/1885) - Married Joanna de Wet

They had Harold James Sterley (26/07/1885) Only one I have all records for sadly

Eventually several Generations this will lead to me :D

That is what I am trying to determine what is on record that we can retrieve. As a lot of what I was finding is repetitive and finding baptismal records, birth records etc has proven to be a challenge or may not even exist.

But Civil registration of births began 1837 in England & Wales, 1855 Scotland and 1864 Ireland. South African Birth records (certificates) were introduced officially in the late 1800S and was not compulsory until 1905. These are the official dates of when it started in the various provinces:
Cape: 1895 - Natal: 1868 - Transvaal: 1901 - Orange Free State: 1903

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Longford / Re: Alexander Forbes & Jane Williams
« on: Monday 14 October 19 19:24 BST (UK)  »
They all left from Cork to SA

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Longford / Re: Alexander Forbes & Jane Williams
« on: Monday 14 October 19 19:23 BST (UK)  »
Yes they were all Irish.

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Longford / Re: Alexander Forbes & Jane Williams
« on: Monday 14 October 19 19:10 BST (UK)  »
Then you would certainly not be able to prove it today it seems without the notes,Port of entry, letters, churches and books with some proof they existed .

I had a look it seems that Birth records (certificates) were introduced officially in the late 1800’s and was not compulsory until 1905. These are the official dates of when it started in the various provinces:

Cape: 1895
Natal: 1868
Transvaal: 1901
Orange Free State: 1903

Civil registration of births began 1837 in England & Wales, 1855 Scotland and 1864 Ireland.

Question is were their children considered Irish or South African?




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