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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Can't make out a railway occupation
« on: Sunday 12 November 23 17:26 GMT (UK) »
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Can't make out a railway occupation
« on: Sunday 12 November 23 16:44 GMT (UK) »
This is from 1943 in India.
I would be grateful for assistance in making out the first occupation retired ....
I would be grateful for assistance in making out the first occupation retired ....
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: 1830 Baptism
« on: Monday 09 October 23 14:54 BST (UK) »
Thanks. It does seem more like it is Sisy, but the mother's name was actually Lizy.
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: 1830 Baptism
« on: Sunday 08 October 23 22:26 BST (UK) »Don't know if it helps.....Bishop transcript has it has Lisy
Name Elley Meadows
Baptism Date 17 Jan 1830
Parish Wigan, Lancashire, England
Mother Lisy Meadows
Register Type Bishop's Transcripts
Reference Number DRL/2/518
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01spj/
Possible - can be used as a nickname for Elizabeth, Felicity, and Melissa?
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Thanks, that must be it. I guess this is from FamilySearch.
I am new to research in the Wigan area, but one thing I have noticed is that there are a lot of people baptised with nickname - Molly, Peggy, Kitty.
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / 1830 Baptism
« on: Sunday 08 October 23 21:14 BST (UK) »
I am seeking some input on a 1830 baptism in Wigan:
I am having troubles with the name of the mother of the child. The first letter seems clear to be an S, based on other words on the page. I am wondering if it is just recorded as Sing?
Original image: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/60561/images/41177_334161-00360?backlabel=ReturnSearchResults&queryId=1a97d4dc8b582fc1b91f6aa6291ffcc3&pId=334159
(bottom of the 2nd page)
Thank you in advance for your time.
I am having troubles with the name of the mother of the child. The first letter seems clear to be an S, based on other words on the page. I am wondering if it is just recorded as Sing?
Original image: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/60561/images/41177_334161-00360?backlabel=ReturnSearchResults&queryId=1a97d4dc8b582fc1b91f6aa6291ffcc3&pId=334159
(bottom of the 2nd page)
Thank you in advance for your time.
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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: My Heritage DNA - FREE Advanced Features
« on: Sunday 08 October 23 14:52 BST (UK) »Whilst some matches do have trees few if any of the UK trees go back very far, grandparents seem to be the norm with my matches and I generally struggle to find bmd records to support the claims in the trees.
If they have minimal trees on MY I will search for the dead-end in Ancestry trees, which is very quick and easy to work with in going back more generations. Most people born before 1900 occur in a tree, and many up to the 1940s.
I've been able to identify far more links with matches from quickly piecing together trees. Typically takes no more than 10 minutes per match. Even some where the link goes back to the 1700s and they just listed their grandparents in their tree.
On Ancestry, there is a search button at the top right of profiles:
Next to the clock and help icon.
If they have a short tree (on Ancestry) pull up all the dead end ancestor profiles, press the search button and look for continuations of the line in public trees.
For MyHeritage, you'll need to type them in.
Using this, I have been able to identify the link for about 80% of my matches over 40cM where I can identify the test taker.
When I can't find the link I assume it's due to a birth out of wedlock or infidelity. The historic infidelity rate was 1.35% or 1% according to two studies, throw in births out of wedlock and we're at about 3 if not 4% for the period in which autosomal tests are useful. Going back to 5th cousins, that's 11 pairings, so somewhere in the region of 1/3 chance of a non-paternal event.
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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Ethnicity Updates on Ancestry
« on: Sunday 08 October 23 14:35 BST (UK) »
The estimates now seem pretty good for those from the UK, but not good for anywhere else. One thing I have noticed is that they are not able to tell the difference between deep English families in Wales and Welsh. A considerable number of my ancestors who lived in Wales were of English origins, and had been living there since the 16th C. I think what Ancestry are doing is comparing trees to DNA and assigning certain occurrences as a certain ethnicity based on that. Their sample of data is very small beyond that. e.g. I have 0 Scandinavian matches on Ancestry, while about 33% of my MyHeritage matches are from Scandinavia. Despite only having 6.25% Scandinavian ancestry.
I do find ethnicity is somewhat useful. e.g. if I find a match and I see they share a certain ethnicity, I can have a good idea what line it is. Also when researching matches who have limited trees I will often look at the ethnicity. Often they are something like 12 Welsh, which I interpret as probably looking for a Welsh gg-grandparent. That narrowsthings down a little. Further, the ethnicity has allowed me to identify some tests that are only a name. If you have a 70cM match named TimNicholson76 and his ethnicity is 50% Scandinavian, I am expecting something like a Timothy Nicholson 1976 (mother's maiden name Olafson) in the birth index.
And if you happen to not know your ancestry or have rumours of a great-grandfather from another country, it can be useful.
Beside from that, we get a lot more matches to work with, from people buying the tests only for the ethnicity estimate, unaware that they are quite speculative.
I do find ethnicity is somewhat useful. e.g. if I find a match and I see they share a certain ethnicity, I can have a good idea what line it is. Also when researching matches who have limited trees I will often look at the ethnicity. Often they are something like 12 Welsh, which I interpret as probably looking for a Welsh gg-grandparent. That narrowsthings down a little. Further, the ethnicity has allowed me to identify some tests that are only a name. If you have a 70cM match named TimNicholson76 and his ethnicity is 50% Scandinavian, I am expecting something like a Timothy Nicholson 1976 (mother's maiden name Olafson) in the birth index.
And if you happen to not know your ancestry or have rumours of a great-grandfather from another country, it can be useful.
Beside from that, we get a lot more matches to work with, from people buying the tests only for the ethnicity estimate, unaware that they are quite speculative.
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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: 4th Great or 5th Great?
« on: Sunday 08 October 23 14:21 BST (UK) »
Is it possible to provide this as a tree? It would be easier to understand.
On the cM you provide, they all look reasonable, particularly the 2C1R one.
But it's worth noting that as each generation is added, the precision of cM decreases. e.g. a 900cM match could be a relatively small number of degrees of relation; while a 8cM could be many types of relation. For example an 8cM match could be anything from a 3rd to 8th cousin.
It sounds like you may benefit from using this tool: https://dnapainter.com/tools/probability
Don't enter matches below 40cM. With all your matches, you should be able to get a good idea of the possible relationships.
On the cM you provide, they all look reasonable, particularly the 2C1R one.
But it's worth noting that as each generation is added, the precision of cM decreases. e.g. a 900cM match could be a relatively small number of degrees of relation; while a 8cM could be many types of relation. For example an 8cM match could be anything from a 3rd to 8th cousin.
It sounds like you may benefit from using this tool: https://dnapainter.com/tools/probability
Don't enter matches below 40cM. With all your matches, you should be able to get a good idea of the possible relationships.
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Bastardy Order payments
« on: Thursday 05 October 23 09:05 BST (UK) »4b2 I think you have your LSD mixed up.
L is for pounds
S is for shillings
D is for pence
A labourer in the late 1700s would be earning about 12 pence per day.
In the 1930s a labourer might be happy to earn 3 pounds 10 shillings a week.
Yes. You are correct.