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Oxfordshire / Re: History of Hailey House Ownership
« on: Friday 17 November 23 15:02 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: hanes teulu on Friday 17 November 23 14:47 GMT (UK)
John Carys "Itinerary; ...; Accompanied with a most extensive selection of Noblemen and Gentlemens' Seats; ..." - published 1798

Thank you for these snippets, very interesting! So I can be assured that William Walker actually owned it, and it was him the EIC purchased the property from. I wonder what family he came from…

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Oxfordshire / History of Hailey House Ownership
« on: Friday 17 November 23 13:47 GMT (UK)  »
Hi all,

An ancestor of mine’s will names one relative: a William Walker of ‘Haily burryhouse in Hodson, Hertfordshire’. I have deduced that he was referring to Hailey Bury in Hoddesdon, Hertfordshire, which is now known as Hailey House.

The Haileybury Society website states that “In 1805, the Directors of the East India Company purchased land and the ancient Hailey Bury (or manor house) near Hailey in Hertfordshire for £5000 to build a new College for the development of young men destined for service in India.” However, the will is dated 1801 and therefore the named relative must have been living there prior to its purchase and subsequent expansion by architect William Wilkins in 1809.

Historic England states that the original building dates from 1720 and was a private dwelling until its purchase by the EIC. Another unsubstantiated source claims that William Walker was previously a surgeon in the EIC and it was he that owned the Haileybury estate. However I’m really struggling to find any records that conclusively state this information. Has anyone got any suggestions as to where I might look for further information? TIA!

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Susan Mary Vargues 1850-1904 Admitted to Asylum After its Closure?
« on: Friday 03 November 23 19:04 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: cath151 on Friday 03 November 23 18:45 GMT (UK)
Hi
Do not have access to full articles but there are a couple of mentions in the Shoreditch Observer dated  Sep 3rd 1904
"closing of Hoxton House as a private asylum. A committee of Guardians had paid a visit to the house and found the eight or nine Shoreditch patients being satisfactorily cared for."

" we hear that the Hoxton House private asylum in Hoxton Street was finally closed on Wednesday evening all the patients and staff having been transferred to other institutions"

Cathy

Cathy, thank you so much for this! I will chase this up.

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Susan Mary Vargues 1850-1904 Admitted to Asylum After its Closure?
« on: Friday 03 November 23 16:37 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: rosie99 on Friday 03 November 23 16:15 GMT (UK)
Maybe it just closed for admissions in 1902, I see it was not demolished until 1911

Yes, it was closed for admissions in 1902. However, Susan wasn’t admitted there until 1904, albeit as a transfer from another asylum rather than as a new patient. This has been corroborated by two different records. I’m trying to work out how that can be possible.

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Susan Mary Vargues 1850-1904 Admitted to Asylum After its Closure?
« on: Friday 03 November 23 16:12 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: rosie99 on Friday 03 November 23 15:43 GMT (UK)
Deceased online has the burial register

Susan Vargues
burial date 24 August 1904
location Newham

Thank you for the nudge in this direction. The full record further confirms that she was resident in Hoxton House at death. A mystery, indeed.

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Susan Mary Vargues 1850-1904 Admitted to Asylum After its Closure?
« on: Friday 03 November 23 08:36 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: crisane on Friday 03 November 23 00:55 GMT (UK)
I see that there is no middle name recorded on the death record on FreeBMD
Do you have her death certificate? If so what address is given for place of death and who was the informant?
Like you I can only see articles saying Hoxton house was closed in 1902 and most of it demolished in 1911.

I have just ordered her death certificate and am now awaiting delivery. Her age at death was also recorded incorrectly on the register, as well as omitting her middle name, although the district of registration (Shoreditch) implies she was indeed at Hoxton House when she died.

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Susan Mary Vargues 1850-1904 Admitted to Asylum After its Closure?
« on: Thursday 02 November 23 23:57 GMT (UK)  »
Hi all,

As the title says, I’m baffled as there are two separate records corroborating that my named relative was admitted to (and died in) Hoxton House Asylum in 1904, two years after every source I’ve read advises it was closed to admissions. Is there somewhere I should start looking/asking questions about this major discrepancy? I’ve read many links provided on this forum in regards to this asylum, but none so far have answered my query.

Thanks,
Lauren

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