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I have a Elizabeth Couldery in my tree, married to Thomas Larking. The marriage took place in Charlton, Kent in 1839. Elizabeth is down as of full age and a spinster. Her fathers name is Richard Couldery, a butcher. They had eight children.
In the 1841 census they are living in Greenwich and have a son Thomas 1yr old. Living with them is Frederick Couldery age 16. probably Elizabeths brother. They are all ticked born in County. In the 1851 census Frederick is a visitor at Blackheath Hill, Greenwich age 26 and a Butcher. In 1871 Frederick is married to Rosina and still in Blackheath Hill, although now he is the Head of family, there are no children. In 1851 Richard Couldery appears as a witness on the marriage certificate of Edward Larking, my g.g.grandfather.

How certain are you that the Frederick Couldery who married Rosina Job (14 Jun 1858 in Saint Dunstan, Stepney) is the same Frederick Couldery who was living with your Elizabeth Couldery and Thomas Larking in 1841? I could be wrong, but I have Frederick as the son of William Couldery and Ann, and in 1841 Frederick is living with them at Turnpin Lane, Greenwich, Kent (HO107 / 489 / 1  Folio 18, Page 30). So, it seems that the 1841 census has two Frederick Coulderys in Greenwich who are about the same age and born in the county. I'm not certain which one later married Rosina Job.


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I just did a google search for Couldery and Greenwich and spotted this thread. I have a Susannah Couldery in my tree. born about 1832, her father was Richard Couldery a butcher. She appears at the Royal Hospital School in Greenwich on the 1841 census. She married James Larking in 1850 and then Charles Joseph Austin in 1859. I too found the Susannah mentioned above, but the dates seem  wrong. I also found the will of a William Couldery, also a butcher who died in Greenwich in 1844. His widow was Ann. If anyone has any info on Susannah or Richard I'd be really grateful.

Hi Chesvilla and Bumblemum. Although I started this thread, I seem to have lost track of it until today when I got an e-mail from RootsChat saying that the topic has been moved. Anyway, I was pleased to see your messages as I'm doing a sort of one-name study of Couldery and have collected a lot of information. I have info on many Coulderys from Greenwich and Lewisham. At first glance, I don't see a connection to the ones you've mentioned, but I'll have a closer look today and see if I can figure out how they fit in.

I'd be very interested in the will of William Couldery which you mentioned. I have a fair bit of info on the descendants of William and Ann (6 generations).

I'd be happy to share any of my Couldery info with you. And, if we put our heads together, maybe we can fit your Coulderys into my database. Send me a personal message if you're interested.


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Could it be that Rebecca was Mary's sister?

Yep, found them in the IGI. Parents were John WRIGGLESWORTH and Ellen CROUTCHLEY.
And on the Yorkshire BMD site, I found that James DRIVER married Mary Wrigglesworth in 1837 at Holy Trinity Church, Rothwell.

Fascinating!

 WG


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Death for Mary Dec 1852, James marries Rebecca Wrigglesworth Jun 1853, that was quick!

Just found this on FreeBMD:

Surname  First name(s)   District   Vol   Page
Marriages Dec 1837

AMBLER Mary Ann          Leeds       23    444
Bathwaite Jane           Leeds       23    444
Benton Mary              Leeds       23    444
Driver James             Leeds       23    444
Flower Ann               Bradford    23    444
Ingham John              Leeds       23    444
PARKER James             Leeds       23    444
SPENCER Robert           Leeds       23    444
WRIGLESWORTH Mary        Leeds       23    444

Could it be that Rebecca was Mary's sister?


 WG


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Yorkshire (West Riding) Completed Requests / Re: SMITH, Florence Ethel - census lookup
« on: Tuesday 27 February 07 23:37 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks so much for all your help Barbara. You did an amazing job.

 WG


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Yorkshire (West Riding) Completed Requests / Re: SMITH, Florence Ethel - census lookup
« on: Tuesday 27 February 07 23:20 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks a lot Barbara! You've found quite a lot of new info. Very interesting about Rebecca.

Can you find Florence Ethel in 1901? She didn't marry until 1909 so I assume she'll still be living with her father (Richard). I believe her mother (Mary Hannah) died in 1899 so Richard will be a widower in the 1901. I'm curious to know if there were any other siblings I didn't know about.

Thanks again,
 WG


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Yorkshire (West Riding) Completed Requests / Re: SMITH, Florence Ethel - census lookup
« on: Tuesday 27 February 07 22:23 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Barbara. Yes, I've now found them in the 1881 census. I had seen the record before but wasn't sure it was them because I didn't know Florence had an older sister. Looking forward to seeing what you can find in the other censuses.

 WG


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I'm trying to find some info on the parents of Florence Ethel SMITH. She was born 5 Sep 1881 in Lower Green Baildon, Yeardon, Wharfedale, Yorkshire. I know her parents were Richard SMITH and Mary Hannah DRIVER and their marriage was registered Q4 1875 in Bradford, WRY (according to FreeBMD) -- but that's ALL I know about them. Could someone please find Florence Ethel SMITH (age 9) in the 1891 census, then use the household info to find her parents in the other censuses?

Thanks,
 WG


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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: 1871 - Oldham - MURGATROYD
« on: Wednesday 20 September 06 19:26 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Sheila. That makes sense now. It sounds like he was born in Ovenden and the birth was registered in nearby Halifax.

By the way, I noticed you're researching BURKEs from Ireland and Lancashire. My 3x-great-grandfather was Michael BURKE, a shoe maker born in Ireland about 1840. He married Hannah Elger COPE about 1864 in Manchester, then they moved to London. I'm not sure how long Michael's family lived in Lancashire, but I think I've found them in the 1861 census in Salford (unconfirmed). I know Burke is a pretty common name, so my Burkes might not be connected to yours, but if you want to compare notes, perhaps you could send me a personal message or start a new topic.

 - WG

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