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Durham Completed Look up Requests / Re: Raine birth
« on: Saturday 06 September 08 16:52 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the tip, Gobbo.
Regards
Viv
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Viv
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Durham Completed Look up Requests / Re: Raine birth
« on: Friday 05 September 08 12:44 BST (UK) »
Hi Gobbo
Thank you everso for all your useful suggestions and for your hard work on my behalf.
I agree that there are a number of reasons why the family information could well be wrong, especially wrongly remembered birth date and using a middle name as the name you are known by.
I think the first thing I'll pursue is the idea of the birth date being in the same quarter as his parents marriage (yes, you did indentify the correct marriage). I'll apply for that certificate. If this is not right, you have given me a number of other useful leads I can try, and I'm very grateful.
Viv
Thank you everso for all your useful suggestions and for your hard work on my behalf.
I agree that there are a number of reasons why the family information could well be wrong, especially wrongly remembered birth date and using a middle name as the name you are known by.
I think the first thing I'll pursue is the idea of the birth date being in the same quarter as his parents marriage (yes, you did indentify the correct marriage). I'll apply for that certificate. If this is not right, you have given me a number of other useful leads I can try, and I'm very grateful.
Viv
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Durham Completed Look up Requests / Re: Raine birth
« on: Wednesday 03 September 08 20:39 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for the 1923 notification. I've taken a look on Findmypast and the mother's name is not right. And while I realise that FreeBMD isn't complete, shouldn't a birth be on the registration indexes available through, say, Findmypast? Or have I got that wrong?
I do appreciate the effort you both have made so far. Thanks.
Viv
I do appreciate the effort you both have made so far. Thanks.
Viv
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Durham Completed Look up Requests / Raine birth
« on: Wednesday 03 September 08 19:21 BST (UK) »
I'm looking to apply for the birth certificate of Norman RAINE. I know from family members that he was born on 16 Sept 1918. His parents were living in Sunderland and his mother's maiden name was DUKE. But I can't find any record of him on the Indexes in Findmypast, FreeBMD or Ancestry. Am I doing something wrong? Any help from more experienced researchers than me would be appreciated.
Viv
Viv
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The Common Room / Re: From miner to teacher: How easy?
« on: Thursday 14 June 07 18:23 BST (UK) »
Hi again Maggott
Have done as you suggest and sent you a PM. Extremely good of you. Very many thanks.
Viv
Have done as you suggest and sent you a PM. Extremely good of you. Very many thanks.
Viv
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The Common Room / Re: From miner to teacher: How easy?
« on: Thursday 14 June 07 17:52 BST (UK) »
Picking up a comment by Bill, there was always a family story that he went to Oxford. The assumption was that he got a degree there. I've always thought that was part of the "putting on airs and graces" myth (see my earlier comment). But if he was a pupil teacher and then went away to qualify, could he have gone as far as Oxford (a long way from west cornwall in those days I imagine), or would it be more likely that he'd go nearer home, say to Truro? What do you think?
Viv
p.s. thanks for the thought, Barbara, but everything stacks up that it's the same man. V.
Viv
p.s. thanks for the thought, Barbara, but everything stacks up that it's the same man. V.
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The Common Room / Re: From miner to teacher: How easy?
« on: Thursday 14 June 07 17:12 BST (UK) »
Many thanks to both Maggott and Stan. Most helpful.
Do you think it's at all significant that his first job was as a teacher in the local workhouse? A low prestige job at the start of the career, maybe? Only later did he go as the teacher in the local elementary school.
His daughter (my grandmother) married a royal navy sailor, and was considered by family (and by herself!) to have married well beneath her. She had real airs and graces e.g she was christened Rebecca but insisted that it be spelt Rebekah!
Viv
Do you think it's at all significant that his first job was as a teacher in the local workhouse? A low prestige job at the start of the career, maybe? Only later did he go as the teacher in the local elementary school.
His daughter (my grandmother) married a royal navy sailor, and was considered by family (and by herself!) to have married well beneath her. She had real airs and graces e.g she was christened Rebecca but insisted that it be spelt Rebekah!
Viv
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The Common Room / From miner to teacher: How easy? **COMPLETED**
« on: Thursday 14 June 07 16:51 BST (UK) »
Hi
I'm fairly new to family history, so apologies if this seems a stupid question.
My question is about moving from one occupation to another. In the 1861 census my great grandfather, aged 16, was a tin miner, just like his dad, in a small village in the far west of Cornwall. 10 years later, the 1871 census shows he was a schoolmaster, a profession he kept for the rest of his life. I have a photo of him as the head teacher of the village elementary school.
My understanding is that in the mid 19th century, it would have been unusual for someone to move from being a manual worker in a traditional Cornish industry like tin mining, to being a member of a respected middle class profession. Or is this not so? How did someone move classes like this? Or am I missing something?
My thanks for your time and any comments you would like to make.
Viv
I'm fairly new to family history, so apologies if this seems a stupid question.
My question is about moving from one occupation to another. In the 1861 census my great grandfather, aged 16, was a tin miner, just like his dad, in a small village in the far west of Cornwall. 10 years later, the 1871 census shows he was a schoolmaster, a profession he kept for the rest of his life. I have a photo of him as the head teacher of the village elementary school.
My understanding is that in the mid 19th century, it would have been unusual for someone to move from being a manual worker in a traditional Cornish industry like tin mining, to being a member of a respected middle class profession. Or is this not so? How did someone move classes like this? Or am I missing something?
My thanks for your time and any comments you would like to make.
Viv
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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / 1871 census Norris
« on: Monday 28 May 07 16:36 BST (UK) »
Hi. I wonder if some kind person could help. I've looked but failed to find the following family on the 1871 census:
Sarah Elizabeth Norris, born Finsbury, Middlesex, July 1866; father Thomas and mother Sarah (nee Cecily). Thomas was a blacksmith's journeyman in 1866 but later became a carman. There may also have been another daughter called Alice. They are almost certainly living somewhere in London.
The only family coming close to that description that I can find is one in Waltham, Kent, but that is definitely wrong.
You can guess that Norris is often transcribed incorrectly.
Any help you can offer would be much appreciated.
Viv
Sarah Elizabeth Norris, born Finsbury, Middlesex, July 1866; father Thomas and mother Sarah (nee Cecily). Thomas was a blacksmith's journeyman in 1866 but later became a carman. There may also have been another daughter called Alice. They are almost certainly living somewhere in London.
The only family coming close to that description that I can find is one in Waltham, Kent, but that is definitely wrong.
You can guess that Norris is often transcribed incorrectly.
Any help you can offer would be much appreciated.
Viv