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Aberdeenshire / Re: Help! James Shand. b14 Dec 1828
« on: Sunday 12 January 20 13:28 GMT (UK)  »
I think we need to remember that not all births, marriages and deaths were recorded pre 1855 and even afterwards.
I have caused myself much grief assuming that X Shand must be the one I'm looking for because nobody else fits. Then I find a marriage or death cert for him who was not registered at birth.

Regarding names of people and places, the writer of whichever record would have spelled it as he saw fit. If you look far enough back you will find couples with Schande on their birth and marriage records but the writer called their children Shand.

Regarding Sessnie / Cessnie. James shand is credited with calling it Cessnie, was this his interpretation or the writers. James's will says he was resident at Mill of Sessnie. Same question.

His father Joseph was registered at birth but not death.
We assume he died between 1841 census and 1851.
This leads me to James Shand b1828.
He is on 1851 census but not 1861 so we assume he died, or migrated.
However, there is a death record for a Shand registered at Savoch of Deer, Methlick in 1851.
The entry is after Nov 10th and simply says 13th. November or December ??
It shouldn't be Joseph if we assume he died before 1851 census.
So could it be James ???
A tip with Scots People searches.
I put no name, ticked "both" in gender and Methlick to find this record.

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Aberdeenshire / Re: Help! James Shand. b14 Dec 1828
« on: Monday 06 January 20 13:16 GMT (UK)  »
Hi
Just returned after some years absent. Apologies if you've tried to contact me.
Have a look on wikitree.
I've uploaded most of what I have on Shand family. James b1794 seems quite a character, his will is worth downloading particularly re his haste marrying Jane Brand. I'm also puzzled as to why he re-registered Margaret Whytes 6 children in 1854. I think his father Joseph also only registered births 'when he got round to it'. I agree with the reference to James becoming Forbes Leith Shand although have not found mention of him post 1861.
Regards
William Shand

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Aberdeenshire / Re: Shand Family of Aberdeenshire
« on: Tuesday 07 March 17 12:26 GMT (UK)  »
Sorry I have been away so long.

I am in the process of entering all the data I have on to "WikiTree"

Hope this helps

Regards

Bill

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Aberdeenshire / Re: Shand Family of Aberdeenshire
« on: Monday 12 October 09 16:43 BST (UK)  »
Hi Anne
I've recently changed service provider and so the webpage I mentioned is no longer available.
I will hopefully set up a new webspace soon.
My tree is on Genes Reunited.
Do you subscribe to that site ?

Regards

Bill

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Aberdeenshire Lookup Requests / Re: irvines/ mains of drum,new deer
« on: Friday 02 March 07 09:59 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Amanda
New Deer stone 154 states
To the memory of William Irvine who lived in Barrack d.22 Nov 1805 aged 64, of his children Jean & George Irvine d. in infancy. Barbara Ritcheston his spouse d. 14 Feb 1812 aged 81. Their son William Irvine d. Drum 4 Sept 1812 aged 40. also John Irven who lived in Barras d 27 Jan 1817 aged 49. William Irven his son d. 8 July 1812 aged 3

Hope this helps

Bill

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Aberdeenshire / Re: Shand Family of Aberdeenshire
« on: Wednesday 23 August 06 22:58 BST (UK)  »
Hi Richard
You've got me wondering about this John Shand
His birth must have been around 1791
The James I have was born 1798.
1841 Folio 11 pg 3 shows Mill of Inkhorn with head Ann Shand. Male servant James Cassie suggests the Ann is indeed Ann Cassie widow, as John died 1830.

 Same page "next household" shows my Joseph Shand/ Barbra Godsman.

???

Bill

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Aberdeenshire / Re: Shand Family of Aberdeenshire
« on: Wednesday 23 August 06 22:19 BST (UK)  »
Hi Richard
Sorry, forgot to ask where you fit into the tree.

Bill

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Aberdeenshire / Re: Shand Family of Aberdeenshire
« on: Wednesday 23 August 06 22:06 BST (UK)  »
Dear All
I've compiled a tree roughly !!
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/aberdeenshand

Any/all comments gratefully received

Bill

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Aberdeenshire / Re: Shand Family of Aberdeenshire
« on: Wednesday 23 August 06 21:58 BST (UK)  »
Hi Richard
Methlick 28
Erected to the memory of James Shand late farmer Northseat of Inkhorn d.5 August 1878 age 52. William Shand his son died there 20 Apr 1880 age 9. Alexander his son d. 19 Sep 1885 age 23. His wife Margaret Stirling d. 22 Mar 1886 age 53. His daughter Ann Shand d. 21 Jun 1890 age 11.
Methlick 29
Erected by Ann Cassie to the memory of her affectionate husband John Shand late farmer Mill Inkhorn d. 14 Sep 1830 age 39. Their daur Sarah d. 29 Jul in 8th year. Son James d. 26 Jun 1852 age 24. Said Ann Cassie d.23 Mar 1878 age 80.
Methlick 30
Erected in memory of Thomas Barclay, Gowanwell Methlick d 19 Oct 1889 age 74. His wife Jane Shand d.19 Oct 1874 age 54. There sons George d. 5 Aug 1877 age 33. James Walker d.22 Jan 1914 age 72. Jane Barclay d. 6 June 1929 age 72. Robert Shand d. 23 May 1884 age 22.
Methlick 31
In memory of Alexander Shand Mill of Sessnie d. 20 Jul 1912 age 77. His wife Margaret Castle d. 19 Mar 1908 age 69. Their family Georgina d. 27 Aug 1900 age 27, Maggie d. 9 Feb 1890 age 15. Ebenezer d in infancy.

Bill

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