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Hi Debra
She is dead and I am not spending any more time on her. As I have said before I have paid a researcher and was told a lot of garbage. I have the marriage registration for John and Deborah in Tralee and the date fits with the information contained in John and Deborah's children's' birth certificates from Queensland.

Thanks for your reply: much appreciated.

Cheers from Jenny

Hi majm
I will take your suggestion as I was never interested in doing more research overseas on John and Deborah and their parents. I have been researching this for about 5 years now and no new records have come to light in that time other than the information contained in John and Deborah's childrens birth certs. As I say I am only after the descendants: I have quite a few of the grandchildren's names and the names of their spouses. I just thought that someone may recognise that a person from the list is their grandparents or someone from the Cahill side of the family recognises Deborah's name as I have quite a lot of information on her sisters and their families but nothing on the boys except that Daniel may have died young. For Deborah and her sisters I take the records as being correct as all the family folklores from their families are very much the same stories.

Thanks again for all your work: much appreciated.

Cheers from Jenny

Hi aghadowey and majm
Aghadowey, I realise what you were saying about the births and the spelling as heard when being recorded. However, through researching my father's side of my family, his great grandad was a military man and two of his children were born in Ireland whilst the family was stationed there but their births are registered in England not Ireland. So I do wonder if Deborah's birth was registered back in Ireland when the family returned as they were not in England very long. If this is the case then maybe just maybe her record was destroyed in the big fire of 1922.

I have tried putting in all kinds of spellings for her surname but to no avail. I did learn through my research that De-bor-ah is a very English way of spelling her name while the Irish use Deb-or-a.

majm, Yes I am aware that births are only recorded up to 1916, marriages up to 1943 and deaths up to 1981. Death certs are really good as they have a lot of information recorded on them. As for the great grandchildren of John and Deborah, I have quite a few names through marriages and the deaths of their parents being recorded on Trove (which do match with the names I have) and it is these children that I am trying to find. I should mention that my Aunt, who died just recently, and her niece (my cousin), still living, have been very helpful with the names of family members. As my Aunt was the last of the grandchildren, it is the great grandchildren that I am trying to contact as I will not put their name on here or anywhere as they are still living. My hope is that they see my post and recognise a person as being their grandad or grandma and will contact me through the site.

Once again I do appreciate the input that you have both provided.

Cheers from Jenny

Hi aghadowey
John and Julia, Deborah's parents were not military as far as I am aware. On the baptism certificates I have found in Kerry Ireland, John was listed as a farmer, on some but not all. The only reason I can think of why they were in England is due to the potato famine and they would have arrived after the birth of their son Maurice who was born in 1854. I did however come across a newspaper article about a John Cahill resident of Aldershot being fined for a dung pile that he had in his front yard. However proving that it was my John Cahill is next to impossible.

As for Deborah, I did find a Deborah but she died in Islington (I think that was where it was). As I said before, I paid a researcher in England and the report was useless. With regards to purchasing another document from England, if the docs were destroyed in a fire (probably the Arnside Warehouse) I can't see what the value of purchasing it would be if no records can be backed up to the files.

I have already decided to search for churches in the area during the time frame that she was born to see if she was baptised in England. They were Roman Catholic so that is my next port of call for Deborah. But at this stage I am more interested in finding the descendants of John and Deborah's children in Queensland as all family units have family folklore: some are stories and some turn out to be fact that can be backed up with documents.

Cheers from Jenny