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Norfolk / Re: Tracing Pearson Family Tree
« on: Tuesday 02 September 14 08:43 BST (UK)  »
Hi Ed

There are two possible options for you.  One is to check parish records to see if Charlotte had the children baptised; the other is to take a chance and order the birth certificates to see who are the registered parents. There is no other way I can think of.

Good luck
Trevor

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Norfolk / Re: Tracing Pearson Family Tree
« on: Monday 24 February 14 14:46 GMT (UK)  »
Charlotte was a frequent visitor to her sister in Holt and it was true that she remained a favourite Aunt to Martha’s children.  After Martha married, her children wrote affectionately to her, as seen from the many  postcards mentioning her name.  The fact that she was an affectionate Aunt is not in doubt.  Not only did Aunt Charlotte visit her sister and family in Holt but loving nephews visited her in London.  There is no record to be found of Charlotte in the 1891 census.  Although Charlotte moved to the exclusive area of London, brother George stayed around the area where he was brought up. From the 1881 Census we find George Augustus James Pearson boarding at 1 Radnor Street Plaistow, lodging with the widowed Elizabeth Pawley. His occupation recorded as a Booking Clerk Railways. He was interred West Ham Cemetery on 26th January 1901.   Catherine’s son John Walter continued as a wheelwright living at 1 Newton Steet West Ham in 1881 and then 3 Newton Street in 1891.(see your document mentioning Mrs Wing in Newton Street). Mixed fortunes meant that by 1901 he was a pauper inmate a West Ham Union Work House where he remained until after 1911.  His wife Mary Ann continued to live with her daughter in 1901 and 1911.

Catherine’s other son, Frederick Wing and his wife Emma had a son called Albert and sadly, Private Albert Edward Wing of the Royal Veterinary Corps died on the battle fields of France from bomb wounds less than 6 months before the end of the First World War. 

Charlotte was regarded as a fond spinster with no children.  What a mystery.

Your document is fascinating. I haven't yet deciphered it all.  If you have a transcript already done I would like to see it.       

There is so much info we could exchange. Tell me about your G Uncle.  Did he look after the child?

Kind regards
Trevor                     

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Norfolk / Re: Tracing Pearson Family Tree
« on: Monday 24 February 14 14:45 GMT (UK)  »
The result of the Beerhouse Act was the opening of hundreds of new pubs throughout England, and the reduction of the influence of the large breweries. The startling discovery that 1 Shirley Street was the address of an inn called The Prince Alfred was only surpassed by the further discovery that the first licensee of this public house was George Pearson, first licence granted at the Petty Sessions on 13th September 1872.    It also shows that George was not the licensee in 1873 as it had passed to Frederick King on 6th December (could this be a misprint and is it his step son Frederick Wing?) confirming the theory that he moved to other premises (possibly New Road near the West India Docks). It looks as though George was selling beer from his home called The Prince Alfred at West Ham but this couldn’t provide enough money to support his family and certainly holding a beer house license was not regarded by the Victorians as a profession but more a secondary source of income.  What is clear is that our Great Aunty Mary’s original thought that George took an inn near the Docks seems to be confirmed more and more through the discovery of historical documents. Sadly Catherine was never to see the public house flourish, her children grow up or young Emily, her grandchild, grow past 10 years of age. 
In 1872 Catherine fell ill and succumbed to a bout of fever and congestion of the lungs. Catherine’s mother, Elizabeth Aries travelled from the Britannia in the small village of Thrupp to be with her daughter but even her care and support could not save Catherine from the inevitable.  On 26th October 1872, at 1 Shirley Street, just a month after starting up the public house, Catherine’s life slipped away, her mother with her at the end.  Catherine was just 50 years of age had been married to George Pearson for 17 years.  They had moved from Oxford to Northampton to London. 
George’s fortunes had been mixed as a railway porter, station master, beerhouse keeper and now, as Catherine’s death certificate showed, a labourer in the shipyard and it was the Docks that would claim George’s life nearly 4 years to the day after Catherine’s death, leaving the children destitute and alone. The next possible mention of George Pearson can be found in Kelly’s Post Office Directory of 1874.  An entry for Canning Town shows George Pearson (a beer retailer) living in New Road. Does it seem likely that George moved house from the newly established inn after his wife’s death and continued to sell beer?  Certainly this seems more likely now that it is clear that George had given up the licence in Shirley Street to Frederick King in December 1873.On Monday 9th October 1876, George Pearson was found dead next or near India Dock & Tavern.  He was 41 years old and his occupation described as an Innkeeper.    The cause of death was determined by John Humprhreys the famous coroner for Middlesex who registered the death after the inquest on 11th October.  The conclusion was that George had died violently having been suffocated by drowning with the added haunting phrase, “How not proven!” George was buried in West Ham cemetery 17th October 1876.  Charlotte Pearson the eldest daughter of the family found a position as a servant in an exclusive house in Wood Green to a widow, Mr Cooper and his two sons and two daughters.  Gt A Mary said,
“Charlotte, being older than my Mother was found an situation in London, where she remained until she died during the 1914 war.”

“Aunt Charlotte was a very treasured Aunt to us, gave us such wonderful presents, marvellous toys.
Aunt Charlotte worked for a French lady all her life, hence the lovely gifts we received.”


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Norfolk / Re: Tracing Pearson Family Tree
« on: Monday 24 February 14 14:44 GMT (UK)  »
Wow what a piece of news.  Thanks for sending the document. Charlotte Louisa never mentionsed a child and there is no evidence of one.  I wonder if it survived?  The document is interesting and she has most of the facts correct.

Catherine Aries' first husband George Joseph Wing had drowned and she had two children of her own, (John) Walter Wing born 1845 in Bow and  Frederick Wing on 3rd November 1846 at 5 Three Colt Court, in Shoreditch.  In 1851 they are residing in Summertown and Catherine is a housekeeper.Two years before she married George Pearson there was an addition to the family. In 1853 at Summertown St Giles, Oxfordshire, Catherine Elizabeth Wing was born, father unknown.  Catherine and George married in 1855 in Oxford. George hadn't been married before it was Catherine who had been married.After George and Catherine married, they lived in Oxford City for a few years and George continued as a railway porter on the newly established railway line. Whilst in Oxford they had a child of their own, George Augustus James Pearson adding to the already existing family of four children. It seems that George was tempted by a position close to Catherine’s family and where the Aries had lived for at least three-hundred years. In the late 1850s the Pearson family move to a small village called Aynho near Deddington not far up the canal from the old Britannia Inn at Thrupp.
The family decide to have George junior baptised alongside their new addition to the family Charlotte Louisa a small baby in 1859 as they settled in Aynho. George describes himself as the Station Master. Martha (our relation) was born on December 23rd 1861 and George’s occupation is listed as porter living at Aynho. In 1861 the 21 year old Walter Wing was not living at home and is recorded as living in High Street Brackley, Northamptonshire less than 7 miles from Aynho, as apprentice wheelwright to Thomas Shakespeare. In 1866, in Middlesex, he married Mary Ann Buttle an Essex girl from Plaistow.  Their first child, Emily Wing was born in 1870 in Plaistow. Walter and the family appear again later in 1871 in London living next to his mother and stepfather. (Catherine mentions this).By 1871 George and his family added to London’s numbers and moved to Canning Town Plaistow.               



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Norfolk / Re: Tracing Pearson Family Tree
« on: Sunday 23 February 14 08:27 GMT (UK)  »
I am sorry to say that George and Catherine did not have a daughter called Louisa. You may be referring to Charlotte Louisa, their second child. I have written a fairly substantial family history which has a section on my Great Great Aunt.  What is your connection with her?

George Pearson born in Holt Norfolk was indeed an innkeeper and you probably know he was linkely to have been murdered in London whilst keeping an inn near the Docks.  My Great Aunt used to listen to stories about it but never thought it true until I uncovered the history.  George was also a station worker in Oxford, Station Master in Aynho, sacked for not keeping the accounts correctly and moved to London to supervise the unloading of the ballast for his builder brother.  Charlotte was born at Aynho Station on 29th May 1859.  When her mother died quickly followed by her father she stayed in London and was a domestic.  She wrote often to her younger sister Martha ( my Great GM) who was sent to live with her uncle back in Holt. Charlotte worked for upper class households and often brought back expensive gifts for her sister.  In 1892 Charlotte’s brother gave her a prayer book for her 33rd  birthday.  The inscription shows a Piccadilly address.  The census for 1891 shows that the costumers, Thomas and Emily Wright lived there with five servants.
In 1911 Charlotte worked at 24 St Mary Abbott’s Terrace, an 11 bed house in a private road a short distance from Holland Park.  The head of the house made a small error on the form and spelt Charlotte’s name incorrectly. His name was Chainsononitz Prosper Elieson from Poland , his wife Antoinette from Switzerland living with their actress daughter and young granddaughter? Her Swiss mistress could have very well been the French speaking lady my Great Aunt Mary spoke about. I don't know when she died.  If you have any info then I shall be pleased to receive it.


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Norfolk / Re: Tracing Pearson Family Tree
« on: Monday 28 January 13 16:19 GMT (UK)  »
James was a Holt shoemaker married Charlotte Ram, daughter ofs William Ramm and Alice (Ann) Inglish.
Little is known about the Ramm family but what we can assume is that William Ramm and Alice had four children, all born in Binham:
Rice (1796), Charlotte (1792) Richard (1794) and Henry (1796).
James Pearson married Charlotte Ram 21st October 1813 at Holt Parish Church and their marriage was to last 42 years until James died in 1855.
The Parish records of the Parish Church are just legible for the early years and it is fortunate that the entry for James and Charlotte in 1813 can be clearly made out.
It is interesting to note that one of the witnesses to the marriage Charlotte’s brother Richard which seems to confirm the research that Charlotte’s parents were William and Alice Ramm.
The registers clearly show that James wrote his name clearly and in a legible hand whereas Charlotte made her mark which seems to suggest that the Pearsons were educated, literate and respectable, a fact borne out by some of the jobs and professions many of their 10 children followed including Martha’s Uncle James a builder and contractor and her father George who worked for most of his working life in the new industry sparked by the development of the railways.
James and Charlotte’s children were all born in Holt:
William (1822), Charlotte (1826), Richard (1832), Martha (1819), May (1815), Alice (1828), John (1819), James (1824) George (1835), Flourias (1838).
We know that not all of them survived into adulthood. May died when she was only 14 years old and Alice when she was 2 years old. James must have been immensely proud of his children as many of them secured effective employment in and around Holt in a time when employment had been, in many cases, hard to come by.
William was a Bricklayer I have a photo of his daughter Elizabeth Gertrude’s wedding sent to me by a Genes member. Richard became a Solicitor’s Booking Clerk, John a Yeoman, James a Builder and Carter and George rising from the ranks of being an Agricultural Labourer to a railway clerk and much later a highly exalted position for the Railways in Northamptonshire.   George was later to found dead in suspicious circumstances in London ( he is my relative).  I have carried out a lot of research on his line of the Pearson family ( including a 13,000 word history)

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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) Lookup Requests / Re: Susan/Susannah Quip - Sculcoates
« on: Thursday 20 October 11 22:00 BST (UK)  »
John Quipp b 1709 married Elizabeth Harper 10.12.1733 Doddington Lincs

son
John Quipp b 1.06.1745 Doddington married Mary Barrett on 23 Nov 1772 Gainsborough Lincs

son
William Quipp born 02.03 1774  married Hannah Watson 21 May 1801 St Marys Kingston upon Hull
daughter Susannah (Susan) Quipp born 08.01.1816 married Henry Lamson 14 Nov 1836 (widowed 1837)
Susannah (Susan ) Lamson then married my GGGrandfather James Shanks on 31 Mar 1839





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Oxfordshire / Re: ARIES ARIS from Kidlington
« on: Tuesday 13 September 11 14:18 BST (UK)  »
Hi Tracy,
I have witten a detailed history of the Pearson family ( George Pearson married Catherine Pearson after George was drowned) so I have lots of info about Aries which I posted earlier.  I have a picture of Catherine as well!  If you have any info or pictures to share it would be good.  I have been in contact with someone through Genes who is related to the Wing family as well.

Trevor

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Staffordshire / Re: Family of John Aston, Willenhall?
« on: Friday 02 September 11 09:42 BST (UK)  »
Hi Joel,

My Astons come from Willenhall and wondered if we are related:

Isaac Aston about 1795 parents possibly son of Issac and Mary married Sarah Byrch(Birch)
son John Aston b.1855 Wednesfield

Kind regards
trevetherev

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