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Tipperary / Re: Lady Ellisha Mathew
« on: Monday 31 August 09 23:40 BST (UK)  »
This was posted in reply to my question about Robert Mathews in genforum by Nick Reddan -
"Alumni Dublenses has:
Robert MATTHEWS son of John, musicus, born Co. Tipperary, matriculated 1812 aged 15. BA 1817 MA 1820".
It could be him!  Who knows? 

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Tipperary / Re: Lady Ellisha Mathew
« on: Monday 31 August 09 23:31 BST (UK)  »
If it isn't anything to do with the masons, do you think it might be something ito do with the "orange order", because the fily seem to have been involved in that in their day?

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Tipperary / Re: Lady Ellisha Mathew
« on: Friday 28 August 09 12:01 BST (UK)  »
I can see the photo now, thanks.
"Vincula Temno" - "I despise bonds" - an odd phrase and apart from it being the family motto for the Sinclair family seems to have something to do with archery?  No idea what.
I still think it is all to do with masonry.   But not being a mason I have no idea.

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Tipperary / Re: Lady Ellisha Mathew
« on: Tuesday 25 August 09 22:30 BST (UK)  »
Sorry can't seem to be able to see the picture, I am obviously doing something stupid.  Do you know of any reason for the family to use the name Marcus or Beresford?  I can't seem to find any link apart from the fact that Beresford was the Archbishop at that time and the family were very prominent in Ireland.

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Tipperary / Re: Lady Ellisha Mathew
« on: Tuesday 25 August 09 21:20 BST (UK)  »
Just had a quick look on the web and this crest seems to be used in the middle temple where barristers are in London, it was originally used by the the Knights Templar in the crusader years.  My husband's father had the crest when he became a barrister in the middle temple at the inn of law, and he remembers his father taking him there and showing it to him.

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Tipperary / Re: Lady Ellisha Mathew
« on: Tuesday 25 August 09 20:41 BST (UK)  »
The ring looks like it has something to do with the masonic order.  I really don't think it is a family crest.

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Tipperary / Re: Lady Ellisha Mathew
« on: Monday 08 June 09 21:16 BST (UK)  »
I was sent this by a cousin, and thought that you might be interested.
It puts forward a few questions like:
Why was he diaconised at Dublin Castle and not at church?
Why was the service conducted by Bishop of Cloyne and not Dublin?
Some other things interesting at the time are:
The Bishop of Dublin at the time was Beresford.
King George IV had left Ireland after a visit 5 days before this took place.
Any knowlege or ideas from anyone would be good.
This is the first document that places the man at a specific place and at a certain time, which is great!

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Tipperary / Re: Lady Ellisha Mathew
« on: Wednesday 15 April 09 17:38 BST (UK)  »
Dear Maria,

I am so sorry to hear of your Father's death, it must be a very sad time for you and your family.

I can't tell you how pleased I am you got in touch.  My Father was very close to your Grandfather.   After Alfred (my Grandfather) died Uncle Marcus took my father under his wind and got him a job in HSBC, oh so many years ago.

I remember when a child and Uncle Marcus was in a Nursing Home in Greystones, Co. Wicklow Dad would always go and visit him.  I myself never met him.  I would only have been about 8, and not very interested in relations, although now I do regret it.

It is written on the family tree that your father and family were last heard of in South America!

I would love to hear about your life and any memories that you might have of your father or Grandfather.


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Tipperary / Re: Lady Ellisha Mathew
« on: Monday 12 January 09 11:27 GMT (UK)  »
I think nerys-wales must be talking about a different Ellisha Mathew.  There is no doubt in my mind that Lady Ellisha died unmarried.  All anouncements and any letters about her in any of the newspapers of the time say that she died unmarried and without an heir, leaving the estate to her first cousin Count Chabot.
Lady Ellisha was known as "Lady Elizabeth Mathew" and considering how the families of that era tended to re-use first names so much, there probably was another Ellisha in the family.

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