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Ireland / Re: Duffy's in Ireland in the 1800's and earlier
« on: Tuesday 13 February 24 13:04 GMT (UK)  »
Ellen McCurdy's parents were Patrick and Rose Ann Stewart. Rose Ann died aged 61 in Ballymena County Antrim and Patrick died in Ballymena in 1875 aged 75.

Ellen had at least one Sibling: Mary Ann married William McIlvennan in 1866 (she reported her father's death).

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Samuel McCurdy
« on: Tuesday 13 February 24 12:26 GMT (UK)  »
I don't check this board as often as I should.

Wee bit of information.

Your Samuel had a brother James who also moved to Scotland with his wife, Eliza Morton. Luckily James married in Tullydrum, Dungiven, Newtownlimavady, County Londonderry in 1868 father, Daniel, a Blacksmith wasn't recorded as deceased, but there are no deaths of a Daniel McCurdy between 1868 and 1875 when Samuel's father in recorded as deceased on the marriage certificate.

There IS, however, an 1867 death of a 72 year old Daniel in Newtownlimavady.

I did a search for Letitia McCurdy's deaths, only two are listed, One for 1876 aged 56 in Coleraine, Londonderry. The other was in Dungannon, County Tyrone a 96 year old, I did a bit of digging and she was married to an Alexander McCurdy, the death was reported by her son, Thomas George McCurdy. So I think you've found out the location.

James and Eliza/Elizabeth had two children in Newtownlimavady, Robert in 1870 and Mary in 1871. They, too, moved to Falkirk where James was born in 1872 before heading to Cathcart Lanarkshire where Jane was born in 1876.


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Renfrewshire / Re: Greenock Poorhouse Inmates
« on: Tuesday 13 February 24 11:05 GMT (UK)  »
I don't check RootsChat as often as I should.

Regarding John Scott and Mary McCurdy:

On the marriage Certificate Mary's father is named as Thomas, a carpenter/farmer, not reported as deceased, and her mother as Rose Scally. On the death Certificate the father is given as Patrick and the mother Rose Scally.

Mary Jane McCurdy was born was born on 18th April 1866 to DANIEL McCurdy and Rose Scally in Cushendall. She had five siblings that I know of:

Patrick born 1863 moved to New Zealand married Mary Ann Murray and produced 10 children. After Mary Ann died in 1925 he married Catherine May Lester in 1937, without issue.

Mary was the second born.

Daniel was borm in 1868, married quite late to Elizabeth Matha McCormick in 1928, without issue.

Rosetta born 1871 married Neil Murray in Cushendall in 1897 then moved to Scotland where the couple had three children before moving back to Antrim sometime around 1904 producing another three.

James born 1875 also married quite late in 1930 to Mary Jane Webb, without issue.

Alexander, the youngest, moved to Scotland where he married Mary O'Neill in 1905 in Glasgow. They then moved to Edinburgh producing one daughter, Margaret, soon after they moved to New Zealand where they produced another four children. Sometime after 1912 they returned to Scotland where son, James, was born in 1916 in Edinburgh.

Hope this was of interest.

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Antrim / Re: McQuilkin family Rathlin Island
« on: Thursday 19 July 18 15:08 BST (UK)  »
Hi Cathy,

I had a My Heritage DNA test done recently and a positive match came up for a woman in Belfast whose mother was a Rathlin McFaul. Anyway, I already had her family tree going back to Alexander McQuilkin and Mary Graham.

She also had matches with another two people who share my lines to Daniel McQuilkin born about 1764. This would seem to indicate that Daniel's son John born 1791 was very probably the father of both your Alexander and my Allan McQuilkin born 1812.

Best regards,

Andy

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Antrim / Re: Broadley
« on: Sunday 15 April 12 17:15 BST (UK)  »
I have a wee bit on this family and I'd like to find out where you fit in.

It is likely that John's father was John Bradley recorded in the Tithe Records for Rathlin for 1823 in Ballynagard townland. And, given the eldest son's name was Neil, that the grandfather was Neil Bradley of Church Quarter, listed in the Agricultural Census of 1803 - I have not been able to find absolute proof of these relationships.

I lost many of my original findings a few years ago but I am fairly certain that John left or deserted the family sometine after the birth of the last daughter, Helen, who was born in 1864.

He moved to Greenock and died next door in Gourock in 1881. The death certificate doesn't name parents but notes that he had had mental health problems for many years.

I have VERY limitted lines from Michael and John, two of the sons, but have at least one line from the eldest son, Neil, right up-to-date.

Hope this was of interest


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The Lighter Side / Re: Where do you draw the line ?
« on: Friday 30 March 12 20:29 BST (UK)  »
Hi Iain,

I actually run the website for Rathlin Island (now, badly) so it really is great to get in contact. I suspect you may be under 50 so my records don't include your parents, yet! (hint, hint)

If you have any grandparents or Great grandparents I can probably be of more help since even the Rathlin online database isn't as up-to-date as the master database.

Cheers,

Andy


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The Lighter Side / Re: Proof that all Europeans are related from c.1240-1400AD...
« on: Thursday 08 March 12 20:52 GMT (UK)  »
Part 2

Graphic 3 is now, hopefully attached

Recent developments in DNA sourcing show that all living European females can be directly linked to 10 or, perhaps, 12 individual women about 150,000 years ago. These weren’t the only European females but are the only ones for whom DNA “Lives On”

Worldwide, only 36 “Clan Mothers” have been identified

Every woman living is related, way back, to one of these 36

Of course, every man is too

Unfortunately male DNA can’t be traced back in the same way so “Clan Fathers” may never be found

All factors mean that we have a lot fewer ancestors than most people assume. In a fairly closed community, probably about 6.8% of the total population today. Under 500,000 individuals for the whole of Britain.

Although we have far fewer ancestors than most people think, perhaps as few as 500,000 or so. Just imagine any ONE of them falling down a well, succumbing to any of the many plagues, being killed in a war or tribal battle, getting trampled by a woolly mammoth or even if a former great-great-grandmother had a “Headache” precluding the birth of a great-grandparent

YOU COULDN’T BE READING THIS!

Indeed! The fact that you ARE here is: HARDLY HUMANLY POSSIBLE!


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The Lighter Side / Re: Proof that all Europeans are related from c.1240-1400AD...
« on: Thursday 08 March 12 20:43 GMT (UK)  »
I've received a fair amount of requests on my comment so here we go - I don't know yet if there is a maximum length for posts so I may have to spread this out.

6,805,700,000
Estimated Current World Population 2010

How Many Ancestors Do We Have?

The usual estimate is based upon a simple progression

SELF
2 PARENTS
4 GRANDPARENTS
8 GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
16 GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
32 GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
64 GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
128 GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
256 GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENT
512 GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
1024 GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS

Predictably, this is called the “Pyramid Model”

However – we have a problem!

Let’s continue a wee bit:
Gen. 12:        2048 – abt. 360 years ago (+/- 70)    
Gen. 13:        4096 – abt. 390 years ago (+/- 70)    
Gen. 14:        8192 – abt. 420 years ago (+/- 70)
Gen. 15:      16384 – abt. 450 years ago (+/- 70)    
Gen. 16:      32768 – abt. 480 years ago (+/- 70)    
Gen. 17:      65536 – abt. 510 years ago (+/- 70)
Gen. 18:    131072 – abt. 540 years ago (+/- 70)
Gen. 19:    262144 – abt. 570 years ago (+/- 70)
Gen. 20:    524288 – abt. 600 years ago (+/- 70)

See where we’re going yet?

6,805,700,000
Estimated World Population 2010

Generation 30 using the Pyramid
WE SHOULD HAVE
536,870,912 ancestors about 900 years ago!

4 Generations later about 1020 years ago
8,589,934,592

40 generations back at 30 years per generation about 1200 years ago

2,199,023,255,552

40 generations back at 30 years per generation, about 1200 years ago

2,199,023,255,552

THAT’S 2.2 TRILLION

Official estimate of total World population (ever to have lived)
About 106,000,000,000
JUST OVER 100 BILLION

We can’t have more ancestors than available people who have EVER lived.

I Think I've attached a graphic showing population data - so I'll continue.

So, depending on the years defining a “generation” at about 1200AD, using 30 years per generation, your “ancestors” surpass available people.
At 20 years per generation you are related to everyone before about 1500AD !

HOW CAN THIS BE?

IT CAN’T !!!!!

The Pyramid Theory assumes that no relations EVER married

This is impossible because the number of ancestors can never be more than the total population at a given time

Relations did marry, perhaps not in an Egyptian, Roman or Royal way, but subtly

The actual model we have to use is a “Diamond Model”

SELF
2 PARENTS
4 GRANDPARENTS
8 GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
16 GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
32 GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
64 GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
128 GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
256 GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENT
512 GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
1024 GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
x G-G-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
x G-G-G-G-G-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
x G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
x-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS

This can be displayed in a lateral branch of my own “Tree” from quite recently (second attachment)

But much more radically in the family tree of King Charles II of Spain (it's famous and you can look that up yourselves)

His Christmas and birthday lists must have been a nightmare!

Perhaps fortunately, a limited gene pool caused him to be too mad to worry!

If first cousins marry, any children lose 2 shared Great-grandparents, 4 shared Great-Great-Grandparents Etc.

If second cousins marry, any children will lose 2 shared Great-Great-Great-grandparents, 4 shared Great-Great-Great-Great Grandparents Etc.

This is called Pedigree Collapse

Charles’ great-great-great or (add-great-great, depending along which lineage one counts) Grandmother, was two of Charles' 16 great-great-great-grandmothers, six of his 32 great-great-great-great-grandmothers, and six of his 64 great-great-great-great-great-grandmothers.

In fact out of a possible 64 individuals Charles had 12 individual 4x great-grandparents

Only TWO in the “Direct” paternal line out of a possible 32!!!!!

Humans, as we would recognize them today, appeared about 50,000 years ago. But some Human DNA may be in existence from as early as 250,000 years ago.

Mitochondrial Eve about 140,000 years ago

Y-chromosomal Adam about 60,000 years ago

Don't know how to add another file so we'll break off here and start on a new thread

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The Lighter Side / Proof that all Europeans are related from c.1240-1400AD...
« on: Saturday 11 February 12 17:38 GMT (UK)  »
* Moderator comment: topic split from http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,578371.10.html *

Had a wee look at the website from Adam. It should have started from 7700BC - going by the Jewish calendar.

More accurately Adam was born about 60,000 years ago but Eve about 140,000 years ago. Genetically, or personally, they never dated or exchanged an apple!

In fact I can show how, genetically, EVERYONE is related prior to about 1150AD - regardless of ethnicity.

I can prove mathematically that all Europeans are related from about 1240AD -1400AD - So you DO have Royal blood.

If anyone is interested - ASK!

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