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Armagh / Re: Tandragee Cemetry Lookup
« on: Monday 05 July 10 17:50 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: orangelil on Wednesday 30 June 10 16:36 BST (UK)
Ryk
Just turned the page of the book about Tandragee and found a note that Private Alexander Brown (born ballyshiel c1805) was part of the British Expeditionary Force sent to China during the first Opium war.

26th Regiment of Foot (Cameronian)
listed as 5'5 in height with fair hair, hazel eyes and a fair complexion
Enlisted at Gibraltar 21/07/1818 aged 13, discharged 26/10/1846 aged 41 due to ill health brought on by bouts of fever and dysentry sustained serving abroad. 
Service included 14 years in India and 10 months in China.

Karen


Karen, Thank you very much for this information.  I have attached it to my research leads.
Ryk

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Perthshire / Re: Am in a right mess
« on: Tuesday 16 February 10 12:25 GMT (UK)  »
Patvp
Sorry for the delay in replying.  Thanks very much for the additional info.  This very much helps correct family records.
Ryk

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Perthshire / Re: Am in a right mess
« on: Wednesday 10 February 10 18:19 GMT (UK)  »
Kirsty
Thank for the look up.  Very kind of you.
Ryk

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Perthshire / Re: Am in a right mess
« on: Wednesday 10 February 10 15:12 GMT (UK)  »
Oops, I overlooked your comment:

"...there is a Jane Stewart (pauper) born 1807 Dunblane on the 1851 census, born 1807 Dunblane...
Children - Duncan 1842, Edward 1845, Jane 1847, ROBERT 1849 Mary 1850 all born Stirling."

Yes, this does look very promising!  I searched for Edward's birth and found nothing in the IGI.  I'm out of credits for SP, so I'll have to recharge.

Interestingly, I have searched for this family in 1861 and cannot find them.  Edward appears in no census records post-1851 in UK, Canada or USA.  There is a possible match for Duncan on his own in 1861 residing in Kincardine as a farm labourer, but that's all I can find. I wonder if they emigrated.

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Perthshire / Re: Am in a right mess
« on: Wednesday 10 February 10 15:04 GMT (UK)  »
PS - Since I'm not allowed to post my email addy here, perhaps I can post a link to our clan web site: http://chuckspeed.com/balquhidder/balquhidder%20stewarts.html . You can contact me directly through that site or if that's not allowed then just google "Stewarts of Balquhidder Research Group" and you'll find me pretty quickly.

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Perthshire / Re: Am in a right mess
« on: Wednesday 10 February 10 15:03 GMT (UK)  »
FYI here is what I have on the McGregors:

Peter MCGREGOR, b 1829 in Muthill, Perthshire, Scotland.  Married on 11 JUN 1848 in Muthill, Perthshire, Scotland to Elizabeth BAYNE, b 1828 in Muthill, Perthshire, Scotland.  In 1841, Peter was residing with the family of Alex Miller in Muthill Village, Muthill, Perthshire, Scotland.  However Peter is shown as only 5 years old at the time.  It’s not known why he was not with his parents or what his relation is to the Millers.  Residing with them was 35 year old John Miller who is again found residing with Peter in 1861.  In 1851 Peter was residing in New Street, Blackford, Perthshire, Scotland and employed as a farm labourer.  In 1861 Peter was residing in Whitharns, Ardoch, Perthshire, Scotland, employed as a ploughman.  Also residing with them was 52 year old John Miller who matches with the John Miller residing with Peter in 1841.  In 1871 Peter was residing in Muthill, Perthshire, Scotland, employed as a dyke builder.  In 1881 Peter was residing in Muthill, Perthshire, Scotland employed as a dyke builder.  His grandchildren, May Williamson McGregor (parents unknown), Peter McLaren, Elizabeth McLaren, and Lillias McLaren (children of Helen McGregor) were also residing with them.  In 1891 Peter was residing alone at Thornhill Street, Muthill, Perthshire, Scotland and employed as a dyke and fence builder.  He was presumably widowed by this time.
1.   Janet MCGREGOR, b 1848 in Muthill, Perthshire, Scotland.  No birth registration has been found for her.  She married 11 DEC 1868 in the Free Church of Scotland, parish of Muthill, Perthshire, Scotland to Robert STEWART (above).  In 1851 & 1861 she was residing with her parents.
2.   Helen MCGREGOR, b NOV 1850 in Muthill, Perthshire, Scotland.  No birth registration has been found for her.  She was found residing with her parents in 1851 and not in 1861.   She married on 22 MAR 1870 in Muthill, Perthshire, Scotland to Archibald MCLAREN.
1.   Peter MCLAREN, b 1870 in Muthill, Perthshire, Scotland.
2.   Elizabeth MCLAREN, b 1872 in Hamilton, Lanark, Scotland.
3.   Lillias MCLAREN, b 1873 in Hamilton, Lanark, Scotland.
3.   Elisabeth MCGREGOR, b 1854 in Blackford, Perthshire, Scotland.  Residing with her parents in 1861.
4.   Peter MCGREGOR, b 4 MAR 1855, Blackford, Perthshire, Scotland.  Residing with his parents in 1861 & 1871.
5.   Isabella Brunton, MCGREGOR, b 25 MAY 1858 in Ardoch, Blackford, Perthshire, Scotland.  Residing with her parents in 1861, but not in 1871.
6.   Mary Bayne MCGREGOR, b 4 JUN 1860 in Ardoch, Muthill, Perthshire, Scotland.  Residing with her parents in 1861 & 1871.
7.   Alexander Bayne MCGREGOR, b 25 SEP 1862 in Muthill, Perthshire, Scotland.  Residing with his parents in 1871 & 1881.
8.   James MCGREGOR, b 11 FEB 1865 in Muthill, Perthshire, Scotland.  Residing with his parents in 1871, but not in 1881.
9.   John MCGREGOR, b 14 OCT 1868 in Muthill, Perthshire, Scotland.  Residing with his parents in 1871 & 1881.


Ryk Brown
Stewarts of Balquhidder Research Group
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Perthshire / Re: Am in a right mess
« on: Wednesday 10 February 10 15:00 GMT (UK)  »
Jane Pedderwick STEWART, b 1874 in Alva, Stirlingshire, Scotland. Residence: 1881 with parents, 1901 at 2 Leighton Cottage, Callander, Callander, Perthshire, Scotland. In 1895 Jane was working as a millworker at the Deanston Mills in Deanston, Kilmadock, Perthshire, Scotland.  Married on 15 JAN 1895 in Free Church at Deanston, Kilmadock, Perthshire, Scotland to Andrew WAUGH, b 1870 in Logie, Clackmannanshire, Scotland, son of Andrew Waugh and Elizabeth McArthur. Marriage witnessed by John Waugh and Lizzie King. Jane died 29 SEP 1913, five days after the birth of her stillborn child.
1.   Jessie Ann WAUGH, b illegitimately in 1894 in Kilmadock, Perthshire, Scotland.  Residing in 1901 with parents. Died 1975
2.   Elizabeth WAUGH, claimed in family records to have been born in 1894 and died in 1896.  If so then she was a twin to Jessie and was also illegitimate.
3.   Andrew WAUGH, b 1897 in Callander, Perthshire, Scotland.  According to family records he was born 1887 (sic) and died at age 3 weeks, however, he was alive in 1901 at age 4 years and residing with his parents.  Another Andrew is said to have died during WWI.  Family records are confused.
4.   Robert WAUGH, b 1899 in Callander, Perthshire, Scotland.  Residing in 1901 with parents.  Died in WWI.
5.   William WAUGH, b JAN 1901 in Callander, Callander, Perthshire, Scotland.  Residing in 1901 with parents. According to family records he was born in 1904 and died in 1960, but he is found alive in the 1901 census.
6.   Jean WAUGH, 1901-1995 according to family records.
7.   John WAUGH, 1903-1975, according to family records.
8.   Peter WAUGH, b 1908 and died at 12 days old, according to family records.
9.   Mary Ann WAUGH, 1909-1910 according to family records.
10.   Elizabeth WAUGH, 1910-1980 according to family records.
11.   Corona WAUGH, 1911-1995 according to family records.
12.   Baby WAUGH, stillborn 24 SEP 1913.

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Perthshire / Re: Am in a right mess
« on: Wednesday 10 February 10 14:59 GMT (UK)  »
Anyway, here is what I have:

Robert STEWART, b 1848 in Logie (1871, 1891), Cornton (1901) or Falkirk (1881), Stirlingshire, Scotland, son of John STEWART and Janet MCCULLOCH. Occupation: ploughman (1868), farm servant (1871), agricultural labourer (1881), farm servant (1891), cotton work carter at Deanston Works (1901).  Residence: 1868 in Willurdistone (sic, Whirrieston), Kilmadock, Perthshire, Scotland; 1871 in Boquhapple, Kincardine-by-Doune, Perthshire, Scotland; 1881 in East Murdieston (Whirrieston or Munnieston?), Kilmadock, Perthshire, Scotland; 1891 at Broich Cottage, Kilmadock, Perthshire, Scotland; 1901 at 5th Division, Deanston, Kilmadock, Scotland. Robert married 11 DEC 1868 in the Free Church of Scotland, parish of Muthill, Perthshire, Scotland to Janet Hellen MCGREGOR, b 1848 in parish of Muthill, Perthshire, Scotland, daughter of Peter McGregor and Elisabeth Bayne.  Robert’s marriage record gives his parents' names as John Stewart and Janet McCulloch, which does not fit onomastically.  Also residing with the family in 1881 was Janet’s sister, Mary B McGregor, b 1861 in Muthill, Perthshire, Scotland.
1.   James STEWART, b 18 MAR 1869 in Kilmadock, Perthshire, Scotland. Residence in 1871 with parents. Not found in 1881. Presumed to have died in childhood 1871-1881.
2.   Elizabeth Bayne STEWART, b 10 JUL 1870 in Kilmadock, Perthshire, Scotland. Residing with parents in 1871 & 1881. Not residing with parents in 1891.
3.   Peter STEWART, b 2 MAY 1872 in Kincardine-by-Doune, Perthshire, Scotland. Residing in 1881 & 1891 with parents.
4.   Jane Pedderwick STEWART, b 7 FEB 1874 in Alva, Clackmannan/Stirlingshire, Scotland. Residing in 1881 with parents. Residing in 1891 at West Spittalton, Kilmadock, Perthshire, Scotland employed as a general domestic servant to the family of James King (whose daughter Lizzie King was a witness at Jane’s wedding). There is no such place name or surname found anywhere in Scotland as “Pedderwick”.  This is likely an IGI transcription error.  The original record has not been viewed.  See below.
5.   Robert STEWART, b 1876 in Logie, Stirlingshire (1881) or Kilmadock (1891), Perthshire, Scotland. Residing in 1881 & 1891 & 1901 with parents. Occupation: coal carter (1901). Marriage record gives Robert’s place of birth as Deanston, Kilmadock, Perthshire, Scotland.  Robert married in 1899 in Kilmadock, Perthshire, Scotland to Jane Ann Ferguson.
6.   Alexander Byne STEWART, b 1878 in Logie, Stirlingshire, Scotland. Residing in 1881 & 1891 with parents. His middle name is probably “Bayne”.
7.   Janet H STEWART, b 1880 in Logie, Stirlingshire, Scotland. Residing in 1881 & 1891 with parents.
8.   James STEWART, b 1882 in Kilmadock, Perthshire, Scotland. Residing in 1891 with parents.
9.   Mary Margaret STEWART, b 1884 in Kilmadock, Perthshire, Scotland. Residing in 1891 & 1901 with parents.
10.   Isabella McGregor STEWART, b 1886 in Kilmadock, Perthshire, Scotland. Residing in 1891 & 1901 with parents.
11.   Duncan STEWART, b 1888 in Kilmadock, Perthshire, Scotland. Residing in 1891 & 1901 with parents.
12.   John McGregor STEWART, b 1893 in Kilmadock, Perthshire, Scotland

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Perthshire / Re: Am in a right mess
« on: Wednesday 10 February 10 14:58 GMT (UK)  »
(...continued)

As to the name Pedderwick, given the fact that he names his first daughter Elisabeth Bayne after his wife's mother, it would be reasonable to suggest that "Jane Pedderwich" was Robert's mother's name.  But, like you, I can locate no such person.  In fact I can locate no such surname or even place name anywhere in Scotland.  Since the name "Pedderwick" comes to us from the IGI, I suggest that it's a transcription error.  I hope to be able to download the original to have a look for myself.  But I've even searched for any birth or marriage in the right date range with James or John Stewart as father and Jane ____ as mother and looked for any mother's surname that even resembled Pedderwick and came up with nothing.

It's very frustrating for me, because most of the Stewarts residing in southern Perthshire and northern Stirlingshire were descended from Clan Stewart of Balquhidder.  And our clan records are extensive up to 1820, so if we could only get this family back another generation or two then I might be able connect them up with one of the branches of that clan and we'd have another 500 years of ancestry in an instant!

We are chasing ghosts here!


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