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Canada Lookup Request / Charlotte Mercer and John Newlove
« on: Thursday 05 February 15 22:20 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Canadian Roots Chatters

I am looking to confirm the date, and possibly details, of the marriage of John Newlove and Charlotte Mercer. Some trees say 1841 some have an actual date 24 Jan 1847 but not a place or church. i.e. the date may be from a Family Bible and may be wrong if written down years after the event.

I think the parties were Anglican. John's Newlove family were in Toronto Twp. Peel but they also had land in Etobicoke Twp. York. Charlotte's Mercer family were based around York Mills but her father may have moved to Peel because he is buried in Dixie St John's cemetery. As were John Newlove and his father.

If the date is after 1843, then it looks like it may be a second marriage as there is a child born about 1842/3 and also one in 1846. The first child was stated in the census and other records to have been born in the U.S.

The nitty gritty of Canadian records is not my strong suit. I have a feeling that Anglican records from the Dixie Union Chapel may have been lost in a fire in the new church of St John the Baptist. I am assuming the old registers from their time at the Chapel were moved into the new church.

Did the Anglicans send copies of their records to the Diocese as per Bishop's Transcripts? Or are all records lost? I see there are cemetery records for sale for Dixie. Can anyone tell me if they are transcripts of information on monuments or are they a transcript of all the burials that took place there?

I would be very grateful for clarification on any of these questions.
Thanks for reading.
Venelow

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Canada / McCullogh of McCullough's Lake Sullivan Township, Grey County, Ontario
« on: Thursday 04 September 14 05:57 BST (UK)  »
Hi Rootschatters

I am looking for information on John McCullough after whom McCullough's Lake in Sullivan Township, Grey County, Ontario was named. 

Apparently a John McCullough and his brother William came to Sullivan about 1822 and then returned to Ireland. They came back to Sullivan in1827 and eventually took two lots on Conc. 4 which were partly on a lake. William returned to Ireland in 1830 and died there. John cleared his title to the land and gave his name to the lake. 

In 1851 a John McCullough had land in Sullivan, on Conc 4 Lot 22 but his age (29 -30) was too young to be the same John who was on the land in the 1820s. He may have been a nephew of the John who came in 1822 and returned in 1827. According to his marriage details, the younger John McCullough was the son of F. McCullough and N. Glasgow

Does anyone have information on the elder John McCullough who gave his name to McCullough's Lake?

Venelow
Ontario

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Cornwall / Phrase: Born South of the Horsepool
« on: Friday 01 August 14 02:45 BST (UK)  »
Dear Cousins:

 "Born South of the Horsepool"

This is a phrase I first heard 45 years ago, made by an inhabitant of West Cornwall who was born before WWI.

I have Googled the phrase to no effect.

I take it to mean people born in a very specific area, possibly West Penwith or the Penwith Peninsular.

Does anyone else recall this phrase?  Where was the Horsepool exactly?

Venelow
Canada

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I am posting this to the Common Room as multiple locations could be involved.

James Tonkin and Elizabeth Midlen gave their son William (bpt. 1796 Paul, Cornwall)  his mother's name as a middle name. Due to people being, illiterate, unsure of spelling, hard of hearing etc. his name was rendered as William Middling Tonkin. Elizabeth's father was actually William Medlyn so the name has many variations.

William Middling / Medlin had a child, Julia Jane, baptized at St Mary's Penzance on Jan 28 1831. His name is recorded as William Medlin Tonkin and the child's mother is called Rachel. It is recorded that Julia Jane Tonkin was born on 22 Oct 1829. The place of birth is not mentioned. When the baptism took place the family were living in Penzance and her father's occupation was Master Mariner.

In 1841 William and Rachel are living in St Helier, Jersey. Both 45 years old and he is a Seaman. There is a Julia in the household but she does not have the same surname and is too old to be their daughter who should only be about 11 or 12 years old.  Have to assume that Julia Jane Tonkin is deceased or living elsewhere.

In 1851 Rachel Tonkin is living alone in St Helier, Jersey aged 56years old and is a widow.  A database of Master Mariners for Jersey states William Tonkin lost at sea on the Zibiah 1851.

I am looking for the marriage of William Middling/ Midlen/ Medlyn/  TONKIN to Rachel UNKNOWN and also the death of Julia Jane Tonkin or her marriage if some how she was not with her parents in 1841.

Hope someone can help.

Venelow
Canada

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Hi Roots Chatters

According to notes in a Family Bible, Catherine Mary Lawrence (nee Smith) died 8 May 1786 at Plymouth Dock and was buried in Stone-Church near Plymouth.

Not sure where Stone-Church is. It may be an error for Stonehouse (East Stonehouse). That parish does not have an OPC. If any one has access to these burial records and can let me have details of the entry that would be great.

I am especially interested to know if her husband William and his occupational status are mentioned. This couple were living at Chester when their children were born and their father was described as a Gentleman and stated to be the Store Keeper of Chester Castle.

The last child was baptized at Chester in March 1785 so the family were recent arrivals at Plymouth Dock.

I would also be interested to hear from anyone else researching this family. I have no information re William Lawrence's birth and parentage. The children of William and Catherine were Lucy, Paul, Edwin and Charlotte but I suspect that William took a second wife and there may be other children.

Venelow
Canada

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Dear Roots Chatters

This is to alert present and potential customers of Find My Past re:

Apprentices of Great Britain 1710 - 1774.

After a series of frustrating e-mails to Find My Past trying to find out why I was not getting results from the above data set, FindMyPast has finally informed me that the data set was not fully indexed and is not available until the indexing project has been completed.

I have searched the Apprentices of Great Britain previously under the old search so it seems they were content to have a partial index previously and suddenly they are not. 

The person I was dealing with, who proved to be unable to comprehend what I was stating, twice told me where to search for this data set and it was not until I instructed her to show my e-mail to her supervisor or manager that I received the answer that it was not currently available.

This situation was probably due to poor communication to their Customer Support Staff Management not withstanding a front line staffer who seemed to have inadequate comprehension skills and an inability to test the instructions she was giving to the customer. The first response was the equivalent of the IT standby - Have you tried switching it off and on again?

Please note that the data set is still listed as being part of the Apprentices Collection on the Apprentices page under Education and Work at the time of this message.  However, if you try and filter for that data set is does not appear in the Filter List nor does it appear in the Alphabetical List.

Libby
Canada

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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Mary Houfe of Skipwith c. 1790
« on: Tuesday 31 December 13 22:05 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Rootschatters

Mary Houfe was the daughter of Thomas Houfe and Hannah baptized at Skipwith 28 Nov 1790.

Does anyone have any information on what happened to her?
Died young? Married? Died unmarried?

I am trying to find the identity of the wife of William Boyd b. Airmyn about 1788/9. William was a blacksmith. The information about his wife Mary in the census of 1851 points to Mary Houfe being a candidate. In 1851 they lived at Selby.

I have been trying to find William's marriage for years. The first three children of William Boyd and Mary were baptized at Skipwith between 1816 and 1822.

William and Mary later moved to Leeds where two more children were born. They are there in 1841.

In 1861, still in Selby, Mary is stated to have been born at Stamford Bridge. That's either some sort of error or he acquired another wife called Mary, however she is the same age as the first one.

Any information or suggestions gratefully received.

Venelow in Canada

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