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Warwickshire / Cemeteries in Birmingham
« on: Saturday 23 July 11 14:59 BST (UK)  »
Dear Fellow Researchers.

Back in the 1890's did the newspapers in Birmingham publish death notices that might have contained the name of the cemetery in which the deceased was to be buried?

I am trying to find the burial location for my great great grandparents.    I have their death records as follows:

Marth Barrow d. 16 Mar 1896, age 65 living at 60 Camden Street.
Joseph Barrow, journeyman tailor, d. 22 Feb 1900, age 68, can't make out his address but know that he also lived on Camden Street.

I believe they were Roman Catholic.

Since Joseph Barrow was listed as a journeyman tailor, would he have belonged to some trade association?

Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

Sincerely,
Bob Croman
Physics Teacher
Texas

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Staffordshire Lookup Requests / John Reynolds, Newcastle under Lyme, b. 1780 Am I kidding myself
« on: Sunday 19 April 09 19:52 BST (UK)  »
I am fairly certain that my GGGgrandfather was John Reynolds of Newcastle under Lyme, a slipmaker.    From the 1851 and 1861 census records he appears to have been born in Ipstones/Hipstones, Staffordshire.  And he seems to have been born about 1780.   His death record also indicates a birth year of 1780.   I have good reason to believe that he was a Roman Catholic for two reasons.    His daughter my GGgrandmother (Martha) and my GGgrandfather (Joseph Barrow) were married in Holy Trinity Roman Catholic Chapel, Newcastle under Lyme.    I have found the baptismal record for another  of his daughters, also at Holy Trinity.
Looking through Ancestry, I found in the Staffordshire Probate and Parish Records, Roman Catholic Registers, the following baptismal listing:    17 Dec 1780-1781   Jno Reynolds s. of John and Mary Reynolds   Godfather and mother Joseph Warrilow and Eliz. Cope, legitimus.
I then checked the IGI and found what appears to be the same record as:  John Reynolds to John and Mary Reynolds; christening: 17 DEC 1780   Saint Mary-Rc, Cresswell, Stafford, England.    So one can see that with the christening date of 1780 and the 1851/61 census records suggesting a birth year of 1780 I am tempted to believe I have found the christening record of my GGGgrandfather.   Unfortunately the LDS microfilm (0873649) does not circulate here in the states, so I can't check further details.
Checking GENUKI, it appears that there is not a Roman Catholic Chapel in Ipstones, but Ipstones is very close to Cresswell, maybe 7 Kilometers.    Is it possible that someone listed in the census records as born in Ipstones could have been christened in Cresswell (1780)?   Another question is the phrase " Godfather and mother Joseph Warrilow and Eliz. Cope, legitimus"   Can I assume that these Godparents are related to the Reynolds or is that too great a step to take?
Any help and opinions here would be appreciated so as to tell me whether I am just wishing this record to be part of my family history.

Best regards,
Bob Croman

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Staffordshire Lookup Requests / Elizabeth Broadhurst, Newcastle under Lyme, born 1797
« on: Friday 10 April 09 23:48 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

Going into "Ancestry" I found on the Staffordshire Parish and Probate data base they have a possible ancester.    They had the following:  "Elizabeth d. of Frances Broadhurst, b/bap 17 July 1797" Newca.stle under Lyme.    I also found the same record on the LDS IGI on film authored by Church of England, Church of Newcastle under Lyme and Percy W. L. Adams  (perhaps a transcription for I found the name Percy W. L. Adams associated with many Staffordshire Genealogical Books and maybe he was part of the Adams Pottery family of Stoke?).   I ordered the tape last week but was then informed that it does not circulate to LDS Libraries here in the states.    Can anyone help me out to find out more info about this data and specifically this Elizabeth Broadhurst.    I think she might have been my GGGgrandmother who married John Reynolds (a slipmaker) of Ipstones and they lived their lives in Newcastle under Lyme.    I know John Reynolds (b. 1780) was Roman Catholic and suspect that Elizabeth Broadhurst was also or maybe converted.

Many thanks in advance,
Bob Croman


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Warwickshire Lookup Requests / Birmingham 1854, Death Index
« on: Friday 16 November 07 21:16 GMT (UK)  »
I am trying to get a handle on my GGGgrandfather, Thomas Morton, of Birmingham born sometime around 1770-75.    I found in the 1851 Census for Birmingham the following family:
Birmingham, St Peters, Family #39, 132 Moor(?) St.
Henry Thompson 46
Elizabeth Thompson, 46, wife, b. Birm.
T. Henry Thompson, 6, son, b. Birm
Thomas Morton, 80, Father-in-Law
Edwin Hacket, 18, Apprentice
Emma Mammal, 17, Servant

It is possible that Thomas Morton, age 80, listed as the father-in-law could be the one I am looking for.

Searching the Free BMD for June 1851 to Sept 1861, I found two death listings for a Thomas Morton, 1854
(1)  Birmingham  March 1854   6d/62
(2)  Birmingham  June 1854  6d/154

Before I send for either or both of these death certificates, does anyone have access to the National Death Index to see if either of these Thomas Mortons were about 80-85 at the time of death.

Many thanks for any help
Bob Croman
Plano, TX


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Warwickshire Lookup Requests / William Morton 1851 Birmingham
« on: Thursday 04 October 07 23:19 BST (UK)  »
Could someone look on the 1851 census at the following family:

St Paul district,  Birmingham   (page 21?)
William Morton,  age 57   Button Maker
Sarah Morton, age 52   wife
Thomas Morton, age 22   son
(all born Birmingham)

I can't make out the son's occupation and I am not sure of the address which I think is 103  Liviry(?) St.

I would appreciate any help that can be given.   William Morton might be my GGGgrandmother's brother.

Best regards,
Bob Croman
Texas

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Warwickshire / Aston Juxta, Birmingham?
« on: Thursday 13 September 07 21:43 BST (UK)  »
I have been following an Amos Morton (b. 1812, died btw 1881 and 1891) who might be my GGGgrandmother's brother.    He was baptised at St. Martins, Birmingham on 29 Dec 1812.    I can find him on the 1851, 1861, and 1871 Birmingham St Martin census living with his wife Maria and his sister Maria.   By the 1881 census his wife Maria had died and his sister Maria must have died prior to the 1871 census.    His address was listed as Cheapside Court 2, House No 1 for the 1851 and 1871 census, and 3 back 11 Mosely St in 1861.
In 1881 he was listed as widower lodging in Aston at the household of Elizabeth Johnson, age 42.
His marriage is listed as 10 Jul 1831 to Maria Turner and the location is given in the IGI as Aston Juxta, Birmingham.
My question is about Aston Juxta.   Is it a suburb of Birmingham and if so, how far away would it be.  And is it reasonable for me to assume that Amos baptised at St Martins in 1812 would have been married in Aston Juxta but then live for approximately 40 years in St Martins Parish and then spend his last years in Aston?
Any thoughts and help would be appreciated.

Thank you,
Bob Croman

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Warwickshire / Catholic Cemeteries, Birmingham, 1890-1900
« on: Wednesday 31 January 07 20:43 GMT (UK)  »
I am trying to find what cemetery in Birmingham my GGgrandparents might be buried.    My GGgrandmother Martha Barrow died in 1896 and my GGgrandfather Joseph Barrow died in 1900.    They lived at 54 Camden St which in the 1891 census was listed in the Ladywood District.   They were Roman Catholic, so I imagine that would limit the list of possible cemeteries where they might be buried?   Does anyone know the names of these cemeteries and know if they are still in operation?

Many thanks,
Bob Croman

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Completed Census Requests / Gun Bryzeror ? Birmingham, 1851 Census
« on: Friday 19 January 07 20:47 GMT (UK)  »
I found my GGGgrandparents' family in the 1851 Birmingham Census, St Mary's on John Street as follows:

Henry Harrison    head   married   age 38   Beer Retailor
Catherine    wife   married   age 42
Henry   son   15   Gun Bryzeror
Georgena     daughter    age 10   scholar
Mary Ann   daughter   age 7   scholar

I am curious as to the occupation of the 15 year old son Henry as gun bryzeror.   Perhaps I can't make out the second word in the census listing?
Does anyone have an idea as to his occupation.   I tried to google the words gun bryzeror but got nowhere.

Best regards and thanks,
Bob Croman

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Warwickshire Lookup Requests / 1891 Birmingham Census: Ashbourne
« on: Sunday 14 January 07 23:03 GMT (UK)  »
My great great grandmother Mary Ann Perks, nee Harrison married her second husband Frederick Ashbourne in Birmingham in 1888.    I have found Frederick and Mary Ann Ashbourne in the 1901 census living at 55 back Nelson St.
However I was never able to find them in the 1891 census listing for Birmingham.
Recently I got the 1913 death certificate for Frederick Ashbourne which listed his sister as Helena Tongue of Birmingham.   I decided to have a look for Helena in the 1891 census and found the following listing:

All Saints Birmingham    1 Ruby Terrace
Charles E. Tongue    27    clerk
Helena   wife   29
Charles E.    son   2
M.A.F. Harrison   50   (married)  Visitor    Sister-in-law

I think this sister in law is none other than my gg grandmother and for some reason she is listed under her maiden name of Harrison and M.A. stands for Mary Ann.    The question then comes up as to where her husband Frederick might be.
My grandfather once told me that Frederick had fought in one of the wars but was confused as to the details.   Could it be that Frederick Ashbourne could have been in the Army?
Wasn't the Boar War about this time (now that I think of it the Boar War was later)?   
The 1901 census and his death certificate lists him as being a glass cutter and born in about 1850.   So in 1891 he would have been a fairly old soldier?    Are there any lists of the soldiers at the time of the 1891 census?
Of course another possibility that my gg grandmother might have been living (visiting) with her sister in law is that he might have been in prison (although no family lore to this effect has come down through the years, but who knows).
In short I think I have found Mary Ann Ashbourne (Perks), nee Harrison in the 1891 census, but no clues as to where her husband Frederick Harrison might be.
Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

Many thanks
Bob Croman

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