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Hi All

Thought I would start a new topic as my original one for the Hickmans is quite big.

I am looking for George Hickman born c 1849 Wolverhampton.
Father Charles Mother Mary.

He is on the 1851  HO107; Piece: 2018; Folio: 129; Page: 18;
He is on the 1861 Class: RG 9; Piece: 1991; Folio: 124; Page: 22;

I cannot find him on the 1871, 1881, 1891, 1901 or the other one.

I have found a few marriages and one which stands out is Sarah Ann Leather 1870,(BMD)
There is a Sarah Ann with George Hickman on the 1871, 1881 and 1891, BUT
he is down as being born in Birmingham, (as that was where he was living at the time of the census's,) and his occ: Brass Worker

From then on I cannot trace him or her, or even a death.

Any help will be appreciated as usual:)
Regards
Gillianr

Hi All,

I am trying to find James Hickman born c. 1848 Wolverhampton, Staffs,
on the 1891 Census.

I have him on the 1881 Census thus:
1881 Census from Ancestry.co.uk

James Hickman    Head   M   Age 33   Occ; tin plate worker   Born Wolverhampton Staffs
Ann Hickman   Wife   M   Age 27            Born Wolverhampton Staffs
James Hickman   Son      Age 6            Born    "                 "   
Henry Hickman   Son      Age 5            Born    "                        "
Mary Hickman   Daug      Age 3            Born    "                        "
John P. Hickman Son    Age 2                 Born    "                        "

Address:  1, Price Street Wolverhampton
See Print Out
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2814; Folio: 28;
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His wife Ann was born c. 1843 which ties in with her death.
Death of Ann from Free BMD
Deaths Jun 1885   (>99%)
HICKMAN    Ann    32     Dudley    6c   57
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Not sure about the marriage I found in 1867 on Free BMD
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The 1891 Census I found, does not tie in with the other Census returns listed below, even though James is down as a Widower, and the occupation does not seem right either.
 Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2306; Folio: 62;
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1901 Census
HICKMAN James   Head   M   Age 53   B.1848   Occ: Tin Plate Worker   Born Wolverhampton Staffs
HICKMAN   Elizabeth   Wife   M   Age 39   B.1862            Born Nuneaton Staffs
HICKMAN   Minnie   Daug   S   Age 17   B. 1884   Occ:Pin Press Worker   Born Birmingham
HICKMAN John   Son   S   Age 16   B. 1885   Occ; Tin Plate Worker   Born Birmingham
HICKMAN   William   Son      Age 12   B 1889   School Boy      Born Birmingham
HICKMAN Charles   Son      Age 10   B. 1891            Born Birmingham
HICKMAN Thomas   Son      Age 17   B.1884   Occ: Tin Plate Worker   Born Bilston Staffs
HICKMAN Ernest   Son      Age   1   B. 1900            Born Birmingham
Address: 2, Sloane Street, Ladywood, Birmingham   
I do not have the GR Number as this was found for me by a friend.
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1911 Census
James Hickman   Head   Age 62   M   Occ:   Iron Gate Worker       Born Birmingham
Elizabeth Hickman   Wife   Age 49    M 12 years 2 children 2 living         Born Wolverhampton
William Kirby    Son   Age 23   S   Occ: Striker (A Blacksmiths Helper)   Born Birmingham
Ernest Hickman   Son   Age 11                  Born Birmingham
Address: 2 Back of 27 Curzon Street, Birmingham
   
I have the RG number but I do not think I can put it in!!!
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I am presuming James re-married due to an Elizabeth being on the 1901 and 1911 Census, and this was the only marriage I could find:
Marriage from Free BMD 2nd Marriage.
Marriages Mar 1897   (>99%)
Hickman    James        Birmingham       
Lovett    Jane Elizabeth      Birmingham   
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I have noticed on the 1901 that some of the children should be STEP children to James, due to their ages and the length of time James and Elizabeth were married (1911 Census) 12 years.

Also you will notice there is a William Kirby on 1911 Census, whom I think would be Elizabeth's son from a first marriage??

I am wondering if she married James in her Maiden name of Lovett, and that her first husband was named Kirby, in fact John Kirby. I found them on an earlier Census.I also found a death for John Kirby.
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This has followed on from my first problem with Thomas Hickman born c.1884 and who married Mary Ann Evelyn Fletcher.

I have the Birth certificate for Glady May Hickman born 1920, who was his daughter, which proved that Mary Ann Evelyn Fletcher was indeed her mother.
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I have found a marriage certificate for the said Thomas Hickman married to Mary Ann Evelyn Fletcher Sept 9th 1911, and on it his father is James Hickman.

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So, where is the James Hickman I want in 1891??
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I have told you everything I can about what I have etc, hopefully to give you an insight to the Family Tree.

Thanking you in a LOT of anticipation:)
I remain
Very Respectfully
Gillianr

Hi All

I am back again, this time it is to find the birth of Sarah Florence Smith,
born Oct. 14th 1867 and baptised July 27th 1868.
I have this record from the Baptisms from the Birmingham Library on Ancestry.
It gives me her parents as John and Mary Ann.
They have not included (Florence) Sarah's middle name.
If I could find the birth details instead of the baptism details, I would have a volume and page No
with which to order the Birth Certificate, and I need the Birth certificate, to prove who her
mother was, as there are so many John Smiths' married to Mary Anns' I have not got a clue
as to which one was his wife.

Cannot find John Smith's death prior to 1892, which was when Sarah Florence was married.

Its no use me going back on Census returns before 1891,to look for John Smith, as it would be like looking for a needle in
the proverbial haystack, and of course I can't check later census returns as he was dead in 1892,
which explains why Edith Agnes Hunter d/o Edward/Edwin Hunter and Sarah Hunter (nee Smith)
is with her grandparents on the later census returns.


Help

Regards
Gillianr

I will be going off line in half an hour.

Hello Again

Ada Callow, born 16 June 1896 in Aston Birmingham Baptised 3rd July 1896 in Aston St. Peter & St Paul.
She is on the 1911  age 14 with her parents and siblings:

Address: 30 Perrott St, Winson Green, Birmingham

Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 18033.

I cannot find her on the 1901 Census and I have looked at every outlet which I have.

She married John G. Petford in 1924 in Birmingham
and then in 1943, married a second time to Barry Hayes St.Ledger. She married in the name of Petford, her first marriage. I don't know if her first husband died, or if they divorced.
Can you help, yet again:)

Regards
Gillianr

Hi all,

I am trying to find James David Phillips born Hackney London, 1893, on both the 1901 and 1911 census returns.

His father was also named James David Phillips.

I have his marriage to Edith Agnes Hunter 1st November 1914, St George, Birmingham.

I have his death 21st July 1959.

His spouse's father's name was Edward Hunter.

I have found 2 James David Phillips on the 1901 and 1911, but the father is wrong, and I cannot find any more entries.

I wonder if you can help please.

Many thanks
Regards
Gillianr